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Mistrial. Walter Scott shooting (Original Post) mainstreetonce Dec 2016 OP
Fitting way to end this year, I guess. RandySF Dec 2016 #1
What the hell. Glimmer of Hope Dec 2016 #2
I think it was only one white guy out of 11 who just couldn't see Hoyt Dec 2016 #3
The family's attorney was on Rachel tonight COLGATE4 Dec 2016 #34
I'm sure they'll retry this one sharp_stick Dec 2016 #4
link elleng Dec 2016 #5
Unbelievable. Ligyron Dec 2016 #6
Can he be retried? wryter2000 Dec 2016 #7
Yes. Since a verdict wasn't reached, double jeopardy does not apply. nt Quackers Dec 2016 #11
Yes. Recursion Dec 2016 #14
The State has already said they'll retry him. nt COLGATE4 Dec 2016 #35
So cops are really about the law Dopers_Greed Dec 2016 #8
I'm actually surprised there were 11 for guilty. mountain grammy Dec 2016 #9
Exactamundo Generator Dec 2016 #20
I think a lot of cops are decent human beings mountain grammy Dec 2016 #25
Of course and also the worship Generator Dec 2016 #26
Exactly! mountain grammy Dec 2016 #30
one white supremacist and eleven decent human beingsmistrial nt geek tragedy Dec 2016 #10
shoot a man in the back barbtries Dec 2016 #12
But, but, but, but, but ... that @$$-hole said he was afraid etherealtruth Dec 2016 #21
that was his defense? barbtries Dec 2016 #24
Federal trial next month. Kingofalldems Dec 2016 #13
Does the federal trial require proof of a hate crime? mainstreetonce Dec 2016 #15
I honestly don't know. Kingofalldems Dec 2016 #17
Denial of civil rights under color of law. Plus use of a weapon during said crime. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2016 #32
Disgusting Devil Child Dec 2016 #16
Authoritarian veto. NutmegYankee Dec 2016 #18
As usual cops lives matter more than anybody elses Generator Dec 2016 #19
I shouldn't have to explain this. Indydem Dec 2016 #33
It's a cool rationalization... LanternWaste Dec 2016 #36
Disagree Generator Dec 2016 #37
we are now a country that counsist of Majority of Bigots and Hate Mongers Cryptoad Dec 2016 #22
If that cop had put 5 bullets into the back of a fleeing WHITE man..... Paladin Dec 2016 #23
It's Not Over... OneBlueDotBama Dec 2016 #27
This is a mistrial, not an aquittal. The prosecution can try again. davidn3600 Dec 2016 #28
Unarmed and shot in the back. democrank Dec 2016 #29
that one juror was never going to convict a white person who kills a black person JI7 Dec 2016 #31
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. I think it was only one white guy out of 11 who just couldn't see
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 04:58 PM
Dec 2016

finding a policeman guilty for shooting a fleeing unarmed man in the back at a distance. It's South Carolina, so you might get 5 who just can't convict the policeman next time. Christ, this is BS.

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)
34. The family's attorney was on Rachel tonight
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 02:50 AM
Dec 2016

and his opinion (subject to talking with the juror) is that the juror in question believed that one of the elements necessary for a conviction of Voluntary Manslaughter was not met. Lousy result but that's the jury system.

Ligyron

(7,632 posts)
6. Unbelievable.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 04:59 PM
Dec 2016

What human being can look at that video and not see a murder being committed?

Shot in the back multiple times?

TRY HIM AGAIN!

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
8. So cops are really about the law
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 05:00 PM
Dec 2016

In this case, they even had a video of him shooting a fleeing person in the back, and still couldn't get a guilty verdict.

Disgusting.

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
9. I'm actually surprised there were 11 for guilty.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 05:04 PM
Dec 2016

I thought it'd be an outright acquittal. No justice. Put on a uniform, you can kill whoever you want.

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
25. I think a lot of cops are decent human beings
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 09:58 PM
Dec 2016

and a lot of cops aren't. The problem is complete lack of accountability, and too much power.

 

Generator

(7,770 posts)
26. Of course and also the worship
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 10:10 PM
Dec 2016

of power. I fear power and I know I need it sometimes. But of course someone has to defend the cops. There are SO many people defending cops. Trump LOVES the cops. Republicons LOVE the cops. I might need the cops. But I don't love people that have life or death over me.

mountain grammy

(26,620 posts)
30. Exactly!
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 10:23 PM
Dec 2016

It's a job. More often than not, the training is pathetic and employment screening even worse. It doesn't have to be like this, and shouldn't. There are good police forces in America, but, far too few. I think treating people like they're extraordinary heroes all the time is bad for the psyche. Certainly there is danger and risk to being a cop, but it's not the most dangerous job. That would be loggers.

barbtries

(28,789 posts)
12. shoot a man in the back
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 05:14 PM
Dec 2016

while he's running away from you and there's 1 fuck on that jury who refused to convict.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
21. But, but, but, but, but ... that @$$-hole said he was afraid
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 06:37 PM
Dec 2016

... he was afraid Walter Scott would stop running away and turn and charge him .... WTF?

"On the stand, Slager argued self-defense, telling jurors he shot Scott as he ran away because he posed a threat and could have turned around and charged him."

Who in their effing right mind would find this plausible?

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,326 posts)
32. Denial of civil rights under color of law. Plus use of a weapon during said crime.
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 12:22 AM
Dec 2016

Wasn't there just a case where a weapons charge was tossed because it supposedly didn't make sense to charge a cop with use of a weapon when their job required use of a weapon?

Either way, I have more faith in the Feds on these cases.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
16. Disgusting
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 05:31 PM
Dec 2016

Police have now learned, as if they didn't already know, that they are free to murder without repercussion. I stupidly thought to myself that this one will result in conviction. That there was no way this cop could possibly walk. When does it end?

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
18. Authoritarian veto.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 05:37 PM
Dec 2016

So few white officers are convicted because it only takes one right-wing authoritarian to cause a mistrial.

 

Generator

(7,770 posts)
19. As usual cops lives matter more than anybody elses
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 06:22 PM
Dec 2016

Especially people of color. OH and everyone hates me for saying the truth. Why do their lives matter MORE? WHY? If they don't want the physical risk-pick another goddamn job.

 

Indydem

(2,642 posts)
33. I shouldn't have to explain this.
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 01:42 AM
Dec 2016

Police are chosen by society to be the first line of defense in upholding an enforcing our laws. Therefore, as a symbol, they themselves are a reprentation of society's desire for order. As a symbol, their life is more important than that of a criminal, who stands as a symbol of chaos.

On a more practical note, we spends tens, even hundreds of thousands of dollars, training and equipping these officers.

"Why do their lives matter MORE?" Because they do. As a symbol, and a practical matter.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
36. It's a cool rationalization...
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 10:12 AM
Dec 2016

It's a cool rationalization, but you provide zero objective evidence to support your allegation.

 

Generator

(7,770 posts)
37. Disagree
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 06:47 PM
Dec 2016

I know the explanation and I disagree. Their lives do not matter more. But I know all cops and cop lovers think they do. You just assumed the person they are involved with is a "criminal." Most if not all of these people they murdered were innocent blacks or mentally unbalanced (they did that a lot a few years ago in Portland-homeless crazy people with knives-they had to die because as you say-their lives weren't worth very much) they weren't criminals and their live mattered just as much as the cop that killed them. Sorry I do not agree with you at all. Again-if they aren't willing to take the chance of being killed as part of the job-get a different job.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
22. we are now a country that counsist of Majority of Bigots and Hate Mongers
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 07:49 PM
Dec 2016

no jury will ever convict a white cop of shooting an unarmed black man even if it is on video. we are so fucked

Paladin

(28,254 posts)
23. If that cop had put 5 bullets into the back of a fleeing WHITE man.....
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 08:19 PM
Dec 2016

how many of you think there would have been a mistrial?

I hope there is a quick re-trial, where that cop gets the punishment he so obviously deserves.

OneBlueDotBama

(1,384 posts)
27. It's Not Over...
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 10:13 PM
Dec 2016

Plus there are pending Federal Civil Rights Charges, waiting for Mr. Slager.

Prosecutors plan to retry Michael Slager case

CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) – Prosecutors say they intend to retry a fired South Carolina police officer whose murder trial ended in a mistrial on Monday when jurors could not reach a verdict.

Solicitor Scarlett Wilson said Monday that she will retry the case against 35-year-old Michael Slager, who was being prosecuted in the death of an unarmed, black motorist Walter Scott. Jurors were also considering a lesser charge of voluntary manslaughter.

Slager also faces a trial in federal court next year on charges of depriving Scott of his civil rights.

Charleston Mayor John Tecklenburg and other community leaders urged calm as the trial began six weeks ago. Tecklenburg says he and many in the community are disappointed but that Slager will again be in court.

http://counton2.com/2016/12/05/prosecutors-plan-to-retry-michael-slager-case/

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
28. This is a mistrial, not an aquittal. The prosecution can try again.
Mon Dec 5, 2016, 10:14 PM
Dec 2016

The federal government is also bringing a different case.

So this isn't near being over.

JI7

(89,248 posts)
31. that one juror was never going to convict a white person who kills a black person
Tue Dec 6, 2016, 12:13 AM
Dec 2016

no matter how much evidence.

some white people just think killing minorities should not be something white people should be punished too harshly for.

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