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milestogo

(16,829 posts)
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 08:55 PM Jan 2017

DHS designates election systems as 'critical infrastructure'

Source: The Hill

The Obama administration on Friday afternoon announced that it has designated the country’s election infrastructure as ‘critical,’ a move that brings added federal protections to voting systems. “Given the vital role elections play in this country, it is clear that certain systems and assets of election infrastructure meet the definition of critical infrastructure, in fact and in law,” Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson said in a statement.

The administration has been weighing the move for some time. The announcement coincides with a report from the Intelligence Community detailing its assessment that Russia undertook a widespread influence and cyber campaign targeted at helping Donald Trump win the White House.

The Intelligence Community said Friday that no voting machines were tampered with during the 2016 election — but the breadth of the Russian cyber activity throughout the campaign raised the specter that the election infrastructure is vulnerable to digital intruders. The IC did find that Russian intruders breached elements of multiple state and local electoral boards.

The new designation will cover storage facilities, polling places, and centralized vote tabulations locations used to support the election process, as well as information and communications technology like voter registration databases, voting machines and other systems used to manage the election process and report results.

Read more: http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/313132-dhs-designates-election-systems-as-critical-infrastructure



How long till Trump undoes it?
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DHS designates election systems as 'critical infrastructure' (Original Post) milestogo Jan 2017 OP
This is good HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #1
Safeguards? Turbineguy Jan 2017 #2
When you vote, it needs to be immediately logged in multiple places simultanously HoneyBadger Jan 2017 #5
I truly believe that there has been election fraud on the Republican side milestogo Jan 2017 #3
It's good, but I note that they've "been weighing this for some time". LisaM Jan 2017 #4
I love and respect Barack Obama, but eight years ago this would have mattered. byronius Jan 2017 #6
But 8 years ago we didn't have proof of a foreign country trying to hack our election. milestogo Jan 2017 #9
No, but we had proof of electronic tampering that swung the swing state Dustlawyer Jan 2017 #12
I just don't think our Dem legislators were paying attention milestogo Jan 2017 #13
I agree. byronius Jan 2017 #14
Republican legislators benefited from the hacks.That's why they let Americas democracy be harmed. Sunlei Jan 2017 #21
Isn't this being a day late and a dollar short? Gymbo Jan 2017 #7
Thid is about the voting machines themselves. nt Abu Pepe Jan 2017 #11
Lets call it super duper critical infrastructure elmac Jan 2017 #8
DHS needs to declare the election invalid, and order a do-over. nt GliderGuider Jan 2017 #10
I'd just as soon not have them taking over right now. bluedigger Jan 2017 #15
So you get Trump and a gutted electoral system. GliderGuider Jan 2017 #18
good. riversedge Jan 2017 #16
Thank Dog. It's damn well about time. hedda_foil Jan 2017 #17
Too little, too late...oh well...la dee dah...nt GReedDiamond Jan 2017 #19
guess they're here to shut the barn door now? 0rganism Jan 2017 #20
I agree that there is a problem, but don't trust the DHS with this kind of power. PotatoChip Jan 2017 #22
Still, some review and protection is better than none! We're starting from horrible. JudyM Jan 2017 #23
The Republicans are the major problem, but going after Pooty and foreign intervention is a good diane in sf Jan 2017 #24
 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
1. This is good
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 09:31 PM
Jan 2017

Actually it is is great, I expect there to be a lot of safeguards in place by 2020 to prove that the 2020 vote is without fraud of any kind. The only way to do that is with more electronics and multi factor authentication. it would be an appropriate goal for Obama to focus on going forward.

Turbineguy

(37,278 posts)
2. Safeguards?
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 09:34 PM
Jan 2017

We have republicans controlling things. To them safeguards are no minority voters, no women voters, and unmarked ballots that they can fill in.

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
5. When you vote, it needs to be immediately logged in multiple places simultanously
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 09:36 PM
Jan 2017

and verified by you electronically on the spot.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
3. I truly believe that there has been election fraud on the Republican side
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 09:36 PM
Jan 2017

for quite some time. I remember hearing when Kerry lost Ohio in 2004 that there are 11 times more regulations regarding the operation of casino machines than there are regarding voting machines. We have allowed them to steal the country right out from under our noses.

LisaM

(27,789 posts)
4. It's good, but I note that they've "been weighing this for some time".
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 09:36 PM
Jan 2017

Damn it, why didn't they do something before this election? I don't care if it is seen as a political move (and ensuring safe elections shouldn't be, anyway, but the way Republicans treat the sanctity of the right to vote is a whole other topic). The results of this election may seriously compromise the safety of our country, our democracy, and our allies. It's not something to dither about.

byronius

(7,385 posts)
6. I love and respect Barack Obama, but eight years ago this would have mattered.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 09:37 PM
Jan 2017

Democracy works when it works. According to Democracy, we have a Democratic President, Senate, and House.

According to It (what we actually have), we kinda live in Hell now.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
12. No, but we had proof of electronic tampering that swung the swing state
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 10:15 PM
Jan 2017

of Ohio from Kerry to Bush. Bush/Rove's IT guy was connected to the company in TN., and died in a mysterious small plane crash just days before he was to give his deposition!

Neither Party has wanted the protections until now, wonder why?

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
13. I just don't think our Dem legislators were paying attention
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 10:20 PM
Jan 2017

as amazing as that seems. Or they are all more afraid of being called a sore loser than of disappointing us.

byronius

(7,385 posts)
14. I agree.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 10:34 PM
Jan 2017

It just wasn't at the top of the agenda.

Hindsight. The man couldn't fix effing everything.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
21. Republican legislators benefited from the hacks.That's why they let Americas democracy be harmed.
Sat Jan 7, 2017, 08:33 AM
Jan 2017
For the past 8 years Republicans spent more time on the presidents birth certificate then the entire American election system security.

Gymbo

(133 posts)
7. Isn't this being a day late and a dollar short?
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 09:48 PM
Jan 2017

We had our election fooled with and an agency that has 240,000 employees and a hundred billion dollar budget didn't see it coming. Their designation is meaningless as far as I am concerned.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
8. Lets call it super duper critical infrastructure
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 09:52 PM
Jan 2017

its all just feel good shit, it won't change a thing as long as big money pollutes the process. Anyway, it too late.

bluedigger

(17,085 posts)
15. I'd just as soon not have them taking over right now.
Fri Jan 6, 2017, 10:38 PM
Jan 2017

Considering there's no constitutional basis for such a move, and the reluctance people have to giving up power once they have it and all.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
18. So you get Trump and a gutted electoral system.
Sat Jan 7, 2017, 12:52 AM
Jan 2017

Kind of a no-win situation, isn't it? Especially when Trump and his Russian control may have that same reluctance to give up power once they have it.

hedda_foil

(16,370 posts)
17. Thank Dog. It's damn well about time.
Sat Jan 7, 2017, 12:37 AM
Jan 2017

A few of us here in '04 - '05 were trying to get attention to the fact that foreign governments and "actors" could hack or re-route incoming vote tallies to change results of elections. The greater danger was thought to be from the inside, which has usually been the case, but in this case, the massive purging of voter rolls plus Putin's "gamesmanship" to swing the election to the Tweetler, created the perfect storm that makes that horrible little man the first American dictator.

0rganism

(23,912 posts)
20. guess they're here to shut the barn door now?
Sat Jan 7, 2017, 08:09 AM
Jan 2017

too bad all the horses are gone, but hey, at least we know the hinges work

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
22. I agree that there is a problem, but don't trust the DHS with this kind of power.
Sat Jan 7, 2017, 12:06 PM
Jan 2017

Because at some point, DHS' ultimate authority over this matter may someday come from some kind of lunatic, idiot, or outright tyrant with an agenda.

I do think that there are many other things that can, and should be done, tho.

diane in sf

(3,911 posts)
24. The Republicans are the major problem, but going after Pooty and foreign intervention is a good
Sat Jan 7, 2017, 03:26 PM
Jan 2017

strategy that few could openly argue with.

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