Price: Everyone Will Get To Keep Their Coverage Under GOP Health Care Plan

[DonViejo]

Source: Talking Points Memo

By TIERNEY SNEED Published JANUARY 18, 2017, 11:12 AM EDT

President-elect Donald Trump's pick to lead Health and Human Services, Rep. Tom Price (R-GA), said Wednesday of the Trump administration's plans for repealing Obamacare that it was "absolutely imperative" that people "be able to keep health coverage."

"One of the important things that we need to convey to the American people is that nobody is interested in pulling the rug out from under anybody," Price said at a hearing in front of the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions. "We believe that it's absolutely imperative that individuals that have health coverage be able to keep health coverage and move hopefully to greater choices and opportunities for them to gain the kind of coverage they want for themselves and for their families."

Over the weekend, Trump told the Washington Post that he planned to unveil an Obamacare replacement plan after Price was confirmed that guaranteed "[link:http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-insurance-for-everybodyinsurance for everybody]." That cut against the rhetoric that Republicans have used to explain their intentions, focusing on lower costs to ensure "access" to insurance, rather than universal coverage.

"I think there's been a lot of talk about individuals losing health coverage. That is not our goal nor is it our desire nor is it our plan," Price said at the hearing.

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Price: Trump Has Not Changed On Vows Not To Cut Medicare, Social Security

By TIERNEY SNEED Published JANUARY 18, 2017, 11:29 AM EDT

Rep. Tom Price (R-GA), President-elect Donald Trump's choice to lead the Department of Health and Human Services said Wednesday that Trump had not changed his mind on the vows he made during the campaign not to cut Medicare or Social Security.

"I haven't had extensive discussions with him about the comments that he made, but I have no reason to believe that he's changed his position," Price told the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions after Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) went through various statements Trump made during the campaign promising to protect the programs.

"So you are telling us to the best of your knowledge, Mr. Trump will not cut Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid," Sanders asked again.

"As I say, I have no reason to believe that that position has changed," Price said.

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/tom-price-trump-medicare-social-security

[dalton99a]

1. "move hopefully to greater choices and opportunities for them to gain the kind of coverage they want

means: "better get rich so you can get the coverage you want"

[ananda]

16. This is code language.

Only the rich will be able to exercise those options,
but I truly think that for Reeps, the rich are the only
people in America who count, and that is who they
are talking to.

[groundloop]

2. It's not our plan (because we don't have a plan)

The don't have a fucking clue what they're going to do if the ever manage to repeal the Affordable Care Act, all they care about is deleting one of Pres. Obama's achievements.

[Ligyron]

3. Oh, sure

It won't be the same coverage, and you may lose a lot of the benefits, but other than that, and a few other things - it will be the same.

Next year you can buy really cheap insurance from other states!

[etherealtruth]

21. Note: no one is claiming that anyone will actually be able to access healthcare with these options

The only claim is that people will be able to pay for insurance.

There have been a few times when I have had health insurance that 'sucked" .... it is no better (just more expensive) than being uninsured.

[Hugin]

28. It will be like the crap auto insurance all over the video machine.

Just enough to say one is insured enough to drive, but, if one ever needs to use it the provider is nowhere to be found. They always manage to cash the premium checks, though. Or another example is those sham home warranty programs.

[nini]

4. I'm telling you.. they're going to tweak the existing package and call it trumpcare

With the backlash coming they'll back down a bit though still weaken it. Rename it and move on.

Their biggest goal is to get Obama's name off of it.

[sdfernando]

6. And the irony is that Obama's name isn't on it...the damned rethugs nick-named it that. /nt

[Hoyt]

10. That's what I think too. They can't stand the thought of it being associated with Obama for decades.

Truthfully, the could easily do away with the federal exchange or even change how subsidies are applied. I'm sure they will look for ways to make life difficult for the poor.

[hibbing]

12. Yes

Their main goal is to harm the poor.


Peace

[Liberalagogo]

13. What's interesting is that

the term Obamacare came form the RW. And the media, ran with it, being the water-carriers they are. And the Democrats let them.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/10/who-coined-obamacare/335745/

[Hortensis]

18. Where're the rabid government dismantlers in all this?

THEY control Congress, both from within and without, even if Trump is threatening to set his slathering media assassins on them. And it'll be Congress that repeals and decides what comes after.

My best guess would be that delay will take on a new function for McConnell and Ryan as they also wait for support for and confidence in President Trump and his promises to start troughing.

[hunter]

19. The ACA has been good for the health insurance industry.

The ACA pulled the health insurance industry's feet out of the fire.

Other plans for reforming U.S. healthcare might have severely damaged their revenue streams.

The insurance industry doesn't want to go back to the way it was. I'm certain they've got their lobbyists pushing back against Republicans who would repeal "Obamacare."

That's what the optimistic voices in my head are saying.

The pessimistic voices are saying that we'll be getting our health care from Wal-Mart clinics managed by twenty-somethings who've had three weeks of training on how to enter your medical issues on a secure web page form, read the automated diagnosis, and have a prescription prepared for you. Each patient's electronic diagnosis will be signed by a doctor in India who will briefly examine the data and push one of four buttons, "Approve, Deny, Send-to-Specialty-clinic, or Call-an-Uber-Ambulance," thus examining hundreds of patients every day.

The Republicans will still be complaining about the piecework rates they are paying Indian Doctors, in spite of the fact these doctors are being paid ten cents per patient, and the patients are being charged fifty dollars for a doctor's services.

[jmowreader]

22. They could have made a good dramatic Idiocracy 2

...in which Joe finds the rich, evil Republicans who decided to dumb down America, and destroys them. You can tell everyone's not stupid; Frito shows occasional glimpses of intelligence.

[Wounded Bear]

5. So, if "people want to keep their healthcare/insurance?"...

why would they need more choices?

[Skittles]

25. dog-whistling to stupid Trump supporters

who have been told their "choices" are limited

[bucolic_frolic]

7. But ...

those that don't have health coverage won't be able to get health coverage

Is that what he's saying? Or that everyone will be covered, but the coverage
will have lifetime, dollar, time, and high deductible limits

[Jacob Boehme]

8. klat elbuod lla s'tI

.... Don't believe a word of their distracting nonsense. All this blather is part of the ruse to keep everyone sleeping while the criminals rob the bank.

[NewJeffCT]

9. sure, it will still be called "insurance"

but, it will most likely be coupons/vouchers to get a discount to buy insurance. But, without the ACA price controls, the cost of the insurance will bigly outstrip the value of the coupons/vouchers and the gap will grow bigger over time.

[Sunlei]

11. at Insurance Corporations full retail price.

[NRaleighLiberal]

14. There's no "their" there - in Price's words. Headline inaccurate!

[Tanuki]

17. I noticed that, too, and it makes a big difference.

Price doesn't guarantee you can retain the same coverage you have on the same terms, as the headline implies. The "coverage" he alludes to may be crappy and capped.

[n2doc]

15. Meaning: You may buy a piece of paper that says "insurance"

But it will have about as much effective coverage as a Diploma from Trump University.

The rubes will be overjoyed to get their $99/month family health Insurance. Until they actually try to use it.

[Jimbo101]

20. If You Can Afford It,...

Accessible and Affordable are two different terms

https://www.buzzfeed.com/paulmcleod/republicans-say-they-assume-trump-didnt-mean-to-promise-heal?utm_term=.gp1LWQm4J#.qib587YN4

Republicans Say They Assume Trump Didn’t Mean To Promise Health Insurance For All

Pressed on the difference between health care for everyone and access to health care for everyone, (Sen. John) Thune said reporters would have to ask Trump what he meant. He said he didn’t know if Trump’s transition team had explained the statement to Congressional Republicans.


http://money.cnn.com/2017/01/17/news/economy/tom-price-trump-obamacare/index.html

Here's the plan Trump's health secretary pick doesn't want to discuss

(Tom) Price actually lays out how much people would receive. The credits would be adjusted by age, ranging from $1,200 for those age 18 to 35 to $3,000 for those age 50 and up.

[SharonAnn]

30. Since average real insurance cost is $850 a month ($10,000 a year), per person that won't go far.

without subsidies or something like expanded Medicaid, many people can't afford insurance.

[BumRushDaShow]

23. In other words

[weissmam]

24. does anyone think they have a clue

[MontanaMama]

26. Wtf!?!?!?!?!?!

At $1322 per month premium (bronze ACA plan) for our healthy family of three...more than my freaking mortgage I'm betting the price goes up not down. The increase going right into Tom Price's well lined pockets. I'm so pissed I can't see straight.

[roamer65]

27. Price is a lying, corrupt criminal.

Insider trading is a crime.

[briv1016]

29. Just like how everyone has "access" to buying a yacht.

[regnaD kciN]

31. "Everyone Will Get To Keep Their Coverage"...

...as long as they can keep paying their premiums. Which, without federal subsidies for middle-class earners, and with the price-hikes sure to come as soon as the mandate is abolished, few will be able to do. But, hey, we tried...