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milestogo

(16,829 posts)
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 09:03 PM Jan 2017

DNC boots candidate from chairmans race for criticizing Ellisons Islamic faith

Source: The Hill

The Democratic National Committee is kicking a candidate out of the chairman’s race after he told The Hill that Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) should not be the party’s next leader because he is Muslim.

In a Jan. 5 email to The Hill, Vincent Tolliver, a former House candidate in Arkansas, said that Ellison, the first-ever Muslim elected to Congress, should not be chairman because of Islamic positions on homosexuality.

“His being a Muslim is precisely why DNC voters should not vote for him,” Tolliver wrote. “Muslims discriminate against gays. Islamic law is clear on the subject, and being gay is a direct violation of it. In some Muslim countries, being gay is a crime punishable by death.”

“Clearly, Mr. Ellison is not the person to lead the DNC or any other organization committed to not discriminating based on gender identity or sexual orientation,” Tolliver continued. “I'm shocked HRC [Human Rights Campaign] has been silent on the issue. A vote for Representative Ellison by any member of the DNC would be divisive and unconscionable, not to mention counterproductive to the immediate and necessary steps of rebuilding the Democratic Party.”

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/317248-dnc-boots-candidate-from-chairmans-race-for-criticizing-ellisons-islamic

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DNC boots candidate from chairmans race for criticizing Ellisons Islamic faith (Original Post) milestogo Jan 2017 OP
Are you kidding??? Because he's a Muslim??? a kennedy Jan 2017 #1
Ellison is pro gay rights. where do the good christians in arkansas stand on gay rights ? JI7 Jan 2017 #2
Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender Equality oberliner Jan 2017 #3
Good fucking riddance, buddy! bullwinkle428 Jan 2017 #4
What a load. What about those Evangelical Christian ministers who tried to get catbyte Jan 2017 #5
Actually, is there an atheist among them? slumcamper Jan 2017 #6
Anybody have a huge fucking mirror for this guy? bitterross Jan 2017 #7
or anyone from arkansas JI7 Jan 2017 #8
The Hell? Anyone from Arkansas - what? Not everyone is evangelical who lives here. Hestia Feb 2017 #16
that's my point . based on what he said about Ellison the same can be said about him JI7 Feb 2017 #17
Now they're getting it; i.e., kicking him out. shrike Jan 2017 #9
Good. BainsBane Jan 2017 #10
I have my own objections to Ellison, but I don't think he has a bigoted bone in his body. n/t Tarheel_Dem Jan 2017 #11
Who? joshcryer Jan 2017 #12
Here you go rpannier Jan 2017 #13
Thanks, I didn't bother to delve in to it, sorry. joshcryer Jan 2017 #14
np rpannier Feb 2017 #19
Same argument would apply to a Catholic or Protestant candidate. Humanist_Activist Jan 2017 #15
Good. Behind the Aegis Feb 2017 #18
A former Democratic U.S. Congress Nominee (AR 4th)...? Doesn't look like he is very democratic. The Wielding Truth Feb 2017 #20
HAS THIS FOOL READ THE BIBLE!!! SkyDaddy7 Feb 2017 #21
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
3. Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender Equality
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 09:14 PM
Jan 2017
I am working to advance Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender (GLBT) equality in Congress by ending existing discrimination written in federal laws, giving law enforcement tools to pursue perpetrators of hate crimes, and extending marriage rights and responsibilities to same-sex couples and families.

Marriage Equality

I believe in expanding marriage rights and responsibilities to same-sex couples and to have those marriages recognized by other states and the federal government. I strongly support repealing the discriminatoryDefense of Marriage Act, which actively denies marriage rights and recognition to same-sex couples.

https://ellison.house.gov/issues/civil-and-human-rights/gay-lesbian-bisexual-and-transgender-equality

catbyte

(34,478 posts)
5. What a load. What about those Evangelical Christian ministers who tried to get
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 09:14 PM
Jan 2017

African governments to pass laws making being gay a crime punishable by death? What a goddamned liar. And a creep.

slumcamper

(1,606 posts)
6. Actually, is there an atheist among them?
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 09:18 PM
Jan 2017

Religion and the nonsensical distractions and pissing matches it foments is the last goddamn thing our party needs.

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
7. Anybody have a huge fucking mirror for this guy?
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 09:22 PM
Jan 2017

By his logic then Christians should not be allowed to be Chair of the party. Good grief. Is he even vaguely aware of the Kill The Homosexuals bills from Africa that are spurred on by evangelicals in the USA? Say in Arkansas for instance.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
16. The Hell? Anyone from Arkansas - what? Not everyone is evangelical who lives here.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:00 AM
Feb 2017

I personally do not know who Vincent Tolliver, never saw his name on the ballot, nor read one word about him, and yes, I do read the paper to keep up with the goings on's around here.

joshcryer

(62,277 posts)
12. Who?
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 10:13 PM
Jan 2017

This guy literally has one blurb about him that I can find. How he even got nominated is anyones guess. I guess he got enough signatures or something.

rpannier

(24,341 posts)
13. Here you go
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 11:13 PM
Jan 2017

A spokesperson for the DNC said there is no signature threshold to participate in the forums. The events are open to anyone who reaches out to the DNC’s secretary to request inclusion.

joshcryer

(62,277 posts)
14. Thanks, I didn't bother to delve in to it, sorry.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 11:17 PM
Jan 2017

Clears it up at least.

And good riddance to this bigoted idiot.

 

Humanist_Activist

(7,670 posts)
15. Same argument would apply to a Catholic or Protestant candidate.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 11:19 PM
Jan 2017

There's a couple of Christian countries(Uganda, Russia) where open homosexuality is punishable by imprisonment and/or fines, along with tolerated vigilante and mob justice(lynchings).

Behind the Aegis

(54,007 posts)
18. Good.
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:28 AM
Feb 2017

I have concerns with Ellison, but his being Muslim isn't one of them. It is almost funny someone would say something like this given it is almost exclusively Christians who are the thorns in our side in the US.

And who is Vincent Tolliver? All I could find was this comments about this and three days ago blaming Clinton's loss on Kaine. This is very, very strange.

ETA:

VINCENT TOLLIVER (D) District 4

BORN: June 11, 1967, Lake Village EDUCATION: Hendrix College, 1985-86, U of Southern California 1987-89 FAMILY: Single RELIGION: Southern Baptist MILITARY: None OCCUPATION: Writer POLITICAL CAREER: None ADDRESS: 313 Main Street, Lake Village 71653. Tel.: 501-265-2314 Tolliver's candidacy is somewhat quixotic. A young African-American writer, he is running against a two-term incumbent in a 72% white district that includes Bill Clinton's hometown. With a "black agenda" that criticizes "white men who don't know anything" for writing laws that unjustly send black men to prison, Tolliver might not have a prayer. Nevertheless, he's running to make a better life for the "common folk" and believes a balanced-budget amendment is a fine idea once all Americans have adequate food and shelter.

THE ISSUES Budget NO Medicare NO Defense YES Abortion YES Guns YES Gays NO Bosnia NO NAFTA NR Welfare NO Medical Leave YES (For an explanation of these issues, see the front of this guide.)

QUOTE OF NOTE: "My campaign gets back to the basics. When you talk about the House of Representatives, it should represent the common folk...It's now made up of the rich, elite white folk, which is not representative of America."

June 2001
http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,134931,00.html

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