Justice Department warned White House that Flynn could be vulnerable to Russian blackmail, officials
Last edited Mon Feb 13, 2017, 10:40 PM - Edit history (1)
Source: Washington Post
The acting attorney general informed the Trump White House late last month that she believed Michael Flynn had misled senior administration officials about the nature of his communications with the Russian ambassador to the United States, and warned that the national security adviser was potentially vulnerable to Russian blackmail, current and former U.S. officials said.
The message, delivered by Sally Q. Yates and a senior career national security official to the White House counsel, was prompted by concerns that Flynn, when asked about his calls and texts with the Russian diplomat, had told Vice President-elect Mike Pence and others that he had not discussed the Obama administration sanctions on Russia for its interference in the 2016 election, the officials said. It is unclear what the White House counsel, Donald McGahn, did with the information.
In the waning days of the Obama administration, James R. Clapper Jr., who was the director of national intelligence, and John Brennan, the CIA director at the time, shared Yatess concerns and concurred with her recommendation to inform the Trump White House. They feared that Flynn had put himself in a compromising position and thought that Pence had a right to know that he had been misled, according to one of the officials, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.
Yates and other intelligence officials suspected that Flynn could be in violation of an obscure U.S. statute known as the Logan Act, which bars U.S. citizens from interfering in diplomatic disputes with another country. At the same time, Yates and other law enforcement officials knew there was little chance of bringing against Flynn a case related to the Logan Act, a statute that has never been used in a prosecution. In addition to the legal and political hurdles, Yates and other officials were aware of an FBI investigation looking at possible contacts between Trump associates and Russia, which now included the Flynn-Kislyak communications.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/justice-department-warned-white-house-that-flynn-could-be-vulnerable-to-russian-blackmail-officials-say/2017/02/13/fc5dab88-f228-11e6-8d72-263470bf0401_story.html
Article was expanded since initial posting. Pretty meaty.
EDIT: NYT Just put up a breaking banner and has added to the story -
[div class"excerpt"]WASHINGTON Michael T. Flynn, the embattled national security adviser, faced an uncertain future on Monday as White House officials delivered conflicting messages about whether he still enjoys the confidence of President Trump and Vice President Mike Pence.
The Justice Department had warned the White House that Mr. Flynn had misled senior Trump administration officials about whether he had discussed American sanctions against Vladimir V. Putins regime during a phone call with Russias ambassador to the United States weeks before the inauguration, and that he could be open to blackmail by Russia, said a former senior official. At the same time, Mr. Pence has told administration officials that he believes Mr. Flynn lied to him by saying he had not discussed the topic of sanctions on a call with the ambassador in late December. Even the mere discussion of policy and the apparent attempt to assuage the concerns of an American adversary before Mr. Flynn took office represents a remarkable breach of protocol.
The F.B.I. has been examining Mr. Flynns phone calls as he has come under growing questions about his interactions with Russian officials and his management of the National Security Council. In addition, the Army has been investigating whether Mr. Flynn received money from the Russian government during a trip he took to Moscow in 2015, according to two defense officials.
Such a payment might violate the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution, which prohibits former military officers from receiving money from a foreign government without consent from Congress. The defense officials said there was no record that Mr. Flynn, a retired three-star Army general, filed the required paperwork for the trip.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/13/us/politics/donald-trump-national-security-adviser-michael-flynn.html
Kingofalldems
(38,419 posts)Getting really interesting.
BumRushDaShow
(128,386 posts)It was the Monday night massacre.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,386 posts)denbot
(9,898 posts)Thanks for that.
BumRushDaShow
(128,386 posts)fountainofyouth
(409 posts)DOJ and the others mentioned in this report were aware that Flynn was lying about the extent of his contacts to Pence and recognized the danger of that dynamic. The Russians could threaten to disclose the conversations if Flynn didn't play ball with them.
BumRushDaShow
(128,386 posts)benld74
(9,901 posts)Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)republican treason most foul
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,939 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,676 posts)Afterall, didn't Rumsfeld get away with his inappropriate relationship with Sadam Hussein AND make out like a bandit during that fiasco in Iraq that no one was held accountable for?
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)mobeau69
(11,131 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,265 posts)The FBI and/or CIA have tapes of the call. No denying the content.
It's hard to believe Flynn did this without either the overt or tacit consent of Trump. Think about it, Flynn surely knew the calls were monitored both by us and Russia. He seems not to have cared. Why? Is it because he expected as NSA he'd be able to cover his tracks? Or because it was no big deal to Trump?
A side note is what the Bash said on Hardball that since the call took place before Trump was sworn in as president, there is no ability to claim executive privilege to keep Flynn from testifying should he be supoened.
slumcamper
(1,604 posts)Exxon's deal with Russian oil...revenue that was previously landlocked but will soon flow as eastern Ukraine is and the pipeline opened into Crimea (already seized). Putin is about to become the richest person on earth.
BumRushDaShow
(128,386 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Okay there should be no surprise. Trump decides he wants to do something, you could put a dozen archangels in front of him, and he will have them all fired. This is exactly the sort of arrogance that folks like Vladimir Putin and XI jinping know how to exploit. Even if the truth is important, and obvious to everyone, Trump's ego will not let him admit that he is been hoodwinked, which means everybody, and this time everybody includes all of us, has to pay the price for his incompetence.
If Hillary Clinton was half this compromise there would be deaths in the South already, as a bunch of militiamen would go ahead and use that as an excuse to shoot people up. Yes you know it's true. The sad thing is, if Congress does not press this issue, and it's not very likely they will, but every dealing with right now and forever more will be compromised, because the folks in Moscow will know that yes they did get away with it, and yes, the Republicans are stupid and selfish enough to allow the sort of thing that Julius and Ethel Rosenberg got executed for.
I normally don't endorse a death penalty, I know that won't come into play, especially as Russians are supposedly going to treat Edward Snowden to us as some grand gesture. However, in light of the fact that Flynn is trying to start a war with the entire Muslim world, I say hang the bastard. And hang everyone who knew what he was doing, no matter how far up the line it goes.
nolabear
(41,930 posts)I can't imagine why they wouldn't fire him. No, actually I can. They think they can destroy this country and won't be opposed. They think they're wolves among lambs. We need to resist in every way we can.
videohead5
(2,165 posts)To call Russia?...if so Trump could also be in big trouble.
mucifer
(23,470 posts)he prevails.
DuckBurp
(302 posts)Does anyone actually think that Flynn was acting on his own?
LudwigPastorius
(9,095 posts)That is, of course, in the event that Flynn faces a grand jury over this.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,006 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,386 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(57,283 posts)Last edited Tue Feb 14, 2017, 10:48 AM - Edit history (1)
Ellen Nakashima is a national security reporter for The Washington Post. She focuses on issues relating to intelligence, technology and civil liberties. Follow @nakashimae
Philip Rucker is the White House Bureau Chief for The Washington Post. He previously has covered Congress, the Obama White House, and the 2012 and 2016 presidential campaigns. He joined The Post in 2005 as a local news reporter. Follow @PhilipRucker
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Doodley
(9,033 posts)LudwigPastorius
(9,095 posts)Sessions could order the DOJ to ignore FBI recommendations.
Also, Trump could simply fire the U.S. Attorney who would handle Flynn's prosecution if he started preparing charges against Sessions' order.
The smart move would be for Trump to order/ask Flynn to fall on his sword (à la Scooter Libby) with an under-the-table understanding that he'd receive a pardon later. ...but, Trump isn't especially smart, and he likes to bully and throw around his weight.
We may yet see mass resignations in the DOJ (not Sessions) if Trump decides to try to quash any impending prosecution.
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)He was discussing lifting the sanctions with the Russian Ambassador at Trump's orders. Flynn is a loose cannon and can implicate Trump if alienated from the Administration. I'm sure the sanctions would have been lifted by now if the DOJ hadn't caught wind of this. Just watch - they will try to ride this out.
Doodley
(9,033 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,429 posts)Collect the data, do an assessment, and draw a conclusion. Come on, folks. Investigations are bread and butter. They aren't that difficult, either. Just follow the logic. I'm not understanding why it's taking so long, what with all of the POWER that these investigative agencies have at their disposal.
I sense some systemic foot dragging. We aren't seeing anything happen. Everything's taking place in some undisclosed location. Why the secrecy?... Oh. The Republicans are in control of things. What's the time table for the Senate investigation? We know that Handslap Chaffetz is picking his nose in the mirror and has no time for the opposition-- who is just about everybody who hasn't donated to Chaffetz' campaigns. He deluded himself into thinking that Soros is paying for the resistance. In a way, I wish he were. I need the money. But Soros isn't and Chaffetz is lobbing bombs that aren't exploding.
Efilroft Sul
(3,578 posts)olddad56
(5,732 posts)Kablooie
(18,605 posts)Rogue POTUS Staff
?@RoguePOTUSStaff
Media finally learned Yates raised flags re: Flynn before being fired. What they're still not seeing is that it's the reason she was fired.
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This account seems to pretty accurate and sounds like the real deal to me though since they must remain anonymous it can't be proved.
riversedge
(70,051 posts)wishstar
(5,268 posts)Going back to Feb 9, Trump has been claiming he was totally uninformed and out of loop, when White House was informed late last month by Sally Yates at Justice about Flynn's lies over phone call and possibility Flynn could be blackmailed by Russia over lying .
BumRushDaShow
(128,386 posts)but few would probably believe it!
riversedge
(70,051 posts)I posted this in LBN but found out it is not considered news.
Anyway--it is a follow up on the WPost OP article and speculates as to why Bates may have been fired. I think reasonable to assume this was one of the reasons.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 05:03 AM
Report: Acting AG Sally Yates Warned Trump Administration About Flynn (UPDATED)
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Source: crooksandliars.com
by Karoli Kuns
Why did Donald Trump fire Acting Attorney General Sally Yates? Was it because of her refusal to defend his indefensible executive order, or was it because she warned Trump and his senior staff that General Michael Flynn could be vulnerable to Russian blackmail?
The Washington Post's bombshell report tonight brings back Sally Yates again, this time warning the Trump White House that Michael Flynn could be compromised as a consequence of his conversations with Russian officials.
The acting attorney general informed the Trump White House late last month that she believed Michael Flynn had misled senior administration officials about the nature of his communications with the Russian ambassador to the United States, and warned that the national security adviser was potentially vulnerable to Russian blackmail, current and former U.S. officials said.
The message, delivered by Sally Q. Yates and a senior career national security official to the White House counsel, was prompted by concerns that Flynn, when asked about his calls and texts with the Russian diplomat, had told Vice President-elect Mike Pence and others that he had not discussed the Obama administration sanctions on Russia for its interference in the 2016 election, the officials said. It is unclear what the White House counsel, Donald McGahn, did with the information.
Read more: http://crooksandliars.com/2017/02/report-acting-ag-sally-yates-warned-trump
TRUMP-BANNON--all the WH KNEW!!--yes Pence also!!
"So Yates warned this White House that Flynn was vulnerable and likely compromised, and in the process of issuing that warning made it pretty clear they knew Flynn had, in fact, discussed the sanctions imposed by the Obama administration on Russia."
Edgeoforever
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You'll want to read the updates.
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HAB911
(8,867 posts)OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)about this this morning and she looked like the liar she is. It was almost fun to watch her squirm.
BumRushDaShow
(128,386 posts)IMHO, she looked like she realized that she was thrown under the bus and is now resigned to just mouth the words until such time that she goes bye bye.
OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)the same way the second time because she knows it doesn't sound any better when repeated. So sad. (Well, not really)
BumRushDaShow
(128,386 posts)Her eyes were deadpan and resigned. Very different from the arrogant glee that she has projected in the past.