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BumRushDaShow

(128,386 posts)
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 09:33 PM Feb 2017

Justice Department warned White House that Flynn could be vulnerable to Russian blackmail, officials

Last edited Mon Feb 13, 2017, 10:40 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Washington Post

The acting attorney general informed the Trump White House late last month that she believed Michael Flynn had misled senior administration officials about the nature of his communications with the Russian ambassador to the United States, and warned that the national security adviser was potentially vulnerable to Russian blackmail, current and former U.S. officials said.

The message, delivered by Sally Q. Yates and a senior career national security official to the White House counsel, was prompted by concerns that Flynn, when asked about his calls and texts with the Russian diplomat, had told Vice President-elect Mike Pence and others that he had not discussed the Obama administration sanctions on Russia for its interference in the 2016 election, the officials said. It is unclear what the White House counsel, Donald McGahn, did with the information.

In the waning days of the Obama administration, James R. Clapper Jr., who was the director of national intelligence, and John Brennan, the CIA director at the time, shared Yatess concerns and concurred with her recommendation to inform the Trump White House. They feared that Flynn had put himself in a compromising position and thought that Pence had a right to know that he had been misled, according to one of the officials, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters.



Yates and other intelligence officials suspected that Flynn could be in violation of an obscure U.S. statute known as the Logan Act, which bars U.S. citizens from interfering in diplomatic disputes with another country. At the same time, Yates and other law enforcement officials knew there was little chance of bringing against Flynn a case related to the Logan Act, a statute that has never been used in a prosecution. In addition to the legal and political hurdles, Yates and other officials were aware of an FBI investigation looking at possible contacts between Trump associates and Russia, which now included the Flynn-Kislyak communications.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/justice-department-warned-white-house-that-flynn-could-be-vulnerable-to-russian-blackmail-officials-say/2017/02/13/fc5dab88-f228-11e6-8d72-263470bf0401_story.html



Short article. Saw a breaking banner. The current article title doesn't fit but is this at posting time - Justice Department warned White House that Flynn could be vulnerable to Russian blackmail, officials say

Article was expanded since initial posting. Pretty meaty.

EDIT: NYT Just put up a breaking banner and has added to the story -

[div class"excerpt"]WASHINGTON Michael T. Flynn, the embattled national security adviser, faced an uncertain future on Monday as White House officials delivered conflicting messages about whether he still enjoys the confidence of President Trump and Vice President Mike Pence.

The Justice Department had warned the White House that Mr. Flynn had misled senior Trump administration officials about whether he had discussed American sanctions against Vladimir V. Putins regime during a phone call with Russias ambassador to the United States weeks before the inauguration, and that he could be open to blackmail by Russia, said a former senior official. At the same time, Mr. Pence has told administration officials that he believes Mr. Flynn lied to him by saying he had not discussed the topic of sanctions on a call with the ambassador in late December. Even the mere discussion of policy and the apparent attempt to assuage the concerns of an American adversary before Mr. Flynn took office represents a remarkable breach of protocol.

The F.B.I. has been examining Mr. Flynns phone calls as he has come under growing questions about his interactions with Russian officials and his management of the National Security Council. In addition, the Army has been investigating whether Mr. Flynn received money from the Russian government during a trip he took to Moscow in 2015, according to two defense officials.

Such a payment might violate the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution, which prohibits former military officers from receiving money from a foreign government without consent from Congress. The defense officials said there was no record that Mr. Flynn, a retired three-star Army general, filed the required paperwork for the trip.




https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/13/us/politics/donald-trump-national-security-adviser-michael-flynn.html
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Justice Department warned White House that Flynn could be vulnerable to Russian blackmail, officials (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 OP
Sally Yates--isn't she the one who Trump fired? Kingofalldems Feb 2017 #1
Oh yeah BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #2
Ride, Sally, ride. nt msanthrope Feb 2017 #3
Need the video! BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #5
Had to pause a minute and give Mr Pickett an ear. denbot Feb 2017 #21
A classic. BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #23
In other words fountainofyouth Feb 2017 #4
I expect the NSA has some stuff. BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #7
You're Fired! benld74 Feb 2017 #6
Something's really rotten in republicanland Achilleaze Feb 2017 #8
What did they know & when did they know it? Pence COVERED UP starting late January. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2017 #9
Well, you almost can't blame the guy for overreaching. Baitball Blogger Feb 2017 #10
YUGE! How many will be indicted for this? democratisphere Feb 2017 #11
Two officials said a main topic of the relevant call was the sanctions. mobeau69 Feb 2017 #12
Wow DeminPennswoods Feb 2017 #17
SoS Tillerson is not above the fray folks slumcamper Feb 2017 #13
THIS BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #14
no surprise DonCoquixote Feb 2017 #15
Rachel is all over this tonight. nolabear Feb 2017 #16
Did Trump Tell Flynn videohead5 Feb 2017 #18
I hope there will be a time when he is in trouble seems that no matter what he does mucifer Feb 2017 #19
That's what I was thinking ... DuckBurp Feb 2017 #24
I believe Olbermann used the term "unindicted co-conspirator" in regards to Trump. LudwigPastorius Feb 2017 #25
So, they were just looking for any excuse to fire her. FailureToCommunicate Feb 2017 #20
Now we know the real reason. nt BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #22
She got fired; he didn't. Welcome to Trumpland. mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2017 #26
I feel like Christmas has come early! I hope this is the beginning of Trump's end! Doodley Feb 2017 #27
I'm afraid there could be a number of ways that an indictment of Flynn could be shut down. LudwigPastorius Feb 2017 #32
Imagine if you will that this was a Dem president and GOP. hollowdweller Feb 2017 #28
Trump can't fire Flynn HopeAgain Feb 2017 #29
If they ride it out, Trump's approval will drop into the 30s. His political capital is sinking! Doodley Feb 2017 #30
Jeez. Investigations galore, but no results. It's endless. What's the problem? Eyeball_Kid Feb 2017 #31
Breaking on CNN: Flynn resigns. Efilroft Sul Feb 2017 #33
I think Flynn was just a fall guy for Trump. olddad56 Feb 2017 #34
Yates was actually fired for warning about Flynn, not for the immigration dispute. Kablooie Feb 2017 #35
Yes, Crooks and Liers has it. see my post below # 38 riversedge Feb 2017 #39
Trump for days has been saying he would look into it or didn't know anything about the matter? wishstar Feb 2017 #36
That's the "plausible deniability" thing he's doing BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #37
Sally Yates Warned Trump Administration About Flynn-was it another reason she was fired??? riversedge Feb 2017 #38
Dump told him to do it........Lock 'em up!......n/t HAB911 Feb 2017 #40
Matt Lauer actually pressed dear, sweet KellyAnne OldHippieChick Feb 2017 #41
Someone posted a tweet with a clip from that in GD BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #42
If you watch it, she takes a deep breath before answering the question OldHippieChick Feb 2017 #43
Yup BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #44

fountainofyouth

(409 posts)
4. In other words
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 09:42 PM
Feb 2017

DOJ and the others mentioned in this report were aware that Flynn was lying about the extent of his contacts to Pence and recognized the danger of that dynamic. The Russians could threaten to disclose the conversations if Flynn didn't play ball with them.

Baitball Blogger

(46,676 posts)
10. Well, you almost can't blame the guy for overreaching.
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 10:06 PM
Feb 2017

Afterall, didn't Rumsfeld get away with his inappropriate relationship with Sadam Hussein AND make out like a bandit during that fiasco in Iraq that no one was held accountable for?

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
17. Wow
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 10:35 PM
Feb 2017

The FBI and/or CIA have tapes of the call. No denying the content.

It's hard to believe Flynn did this without either the overt or tacit consent of Trump. Think about it, Flynn surely knew the calls were monitored both by us and Russia. He seems not to have cared. Why? Is it because he expected as NSA he'd be able to cover his tracks? Or because it was no big deal to Trump?

A side note is what the Bash said on Hardball that since the call took place before Trump was sworn in as president, there is no ability to claim executive privilege to keep Flynn from testifying should he be supoened.

slumcamper

(1,604 posts)
13. SoS Tillerson is not above the fray folks
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 10:30 PM
Feb 2017

Exxon's deal with Russian oil...revenue that was previously landlocked but will soon flow as eastern Ukraine is and the pipeline opened into Crimea (already seized). Putin is about to become the richest person on earth.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
15. no surprise
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 10:32 PM
Feb 2017

Okay there should be no surprise. Trump decides he wants to do something, you could put a dozen archangels in front of him, and he will have them all fired. This is exactly the sort of arrogance that folks like Vladimir Putin and XI jinping know how to exploit. Even if the truth is important, and obvious to everyone, Trump's ego will not let him admit that he is been hoodwinked, which means everybody, and this time everybody includes all of us, has to pay the price for his incompetence.

If Hillary Clinton was half this compromise there would be deaths in the South already, as a bunch of militiamen would go ahead and use that as an excuse to shoot people up. Yes you know it's true. The sad thing is, if Congress does not press this issue, and it's not very likely they will, but every dealing with right now and forever more will be compromised, because the folks in Moscow will know that yes they did get away with it, and yes, the Republicans are stupid and selfish enough to allow the sort of thing that Julius and Ethel Rosenberg got executed for.

I normally don't endorse a death penalty, I know that won't come into play, especially as Russians are supposedly going to treat Edward Snowden to us as some grand gesture. However, in light of the fact that Flynn is trying to start a war with the entire Muslim world, I say hang the bastard. And hang everyone who knew what he was doing, no matter how far up the line it goes.

nolabear

(41,930 posts)
16. Rachel is all over this tonight.
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 10:32 PM
Feb 2017

I can't imagine why they wouldn't fire him. No, actually I can. They think they can destroy this country and won't be opposed. They think they're wolves among lambs. We need to resist in every way we can.

LudwigPastorius

(9,095 posts)
25. I believe Olbermann used the term "unindicted co-conspirator" in regards to Trump.
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 11:14 PM
Feb 2017

That is, of course, in the event that Flynn faces a grand jury over this.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,283 posts)
26. She got fired; he didn't. Welcome to Trumpland.
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 11:18 PM
Feb 2017

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LudwigPastorius

(9,095 posts)
32. I'm afraid there could be a number of ways that an indictment of Flynn could be shut down.
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 11:51 PM
Feb 2017

Sessions could order the DOJ to ignore FBI recommendations.

Also, Trump could simply fire the U.S. Attorney who would handle Flynn's prosecution if he started preparing charges against Sessions' order.

The smart move would be for Trump to order/ask Flynn to fall on his sword (à la Scooter Libby) with an under-the-table understanding that he'd receive a pardon later. ...but, Trump isn't especially smart, and he likes to bully and throw around his weight.

We may yet see mass resignations in the DOJ (not Sessions) if Trump decides to try to quash any impending prosecution.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
29. Trump can't fire Flynn
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 11:28 PM
Feb 2017

He was discussing lifting the sanctions with the Russian Ambassador at Trump's orders. Flynn is a loose cannon and can implicate Trump if alienated from the Administration. I'm sure the sanctions would have been lifted by now if the DOJ hadn't caught wind of this. Just watch - they will try to ride this out.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,429 posts)
31. Jeez. Investigations galore, but no results. It's endless. What's the problem?
Mon Feb 13, 2017, 11:41 PM
Feb 2017

Collect the data, do an assessment, and draw a conclusion. Come on, folks. Investigations are bread and butter. They aren't that difficult, either. Just follow the logic. I'm not understanding why it's taking so long, what with all of the POWER that these investigative agencies have at their disposal.

I sense some systemic foot dragging. We aren't seeing anything happen. Everything's taking place in some undisclosed location. Why the secrecy?... Oh. The Republicans are in control of things. What's the time table for the Senate investigation? We know that Handslap Chaffetz is picking his nose in the mirror and has no time for the opposition-- who is just about everybody who hasn't donated to Chaffetz' campaigns. He deluded himself into thinking that Soros is paying for the resistance. In a way, I wish he were. I need the money. But Soros isn't and Chaffetz is lobbing bombs that aren't exploding.

Kablooie

(18,605 posts)
35. Yates was actually fired for warning about Flynn, not for the immigration dispute.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 03:47 AM
Feb 2017

Rogue POTUS Staff
?@RoguePOTUSStaff
Media finally learned Yates raised flags re: Flynn before being fired. What they're still not seeing is that it's the reason she was fired.

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This account seems to pretty accurate and sounds like the real deal to me though since they must remain anonymous it can't be proved.

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
36. Trump for days has been saying he would look into it or didn't know anything about the matter?
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 05:01 AM
Feb 2017

Going back to Feb 9, Trump has been claiming he was totally uninformed and out of loop, when White House was informed late last month by Sally Yates at Justice about Flynn's lies over phone call and possibility Flynn could be blackmailed by Russia over lying .

riversedge

(70,051 posts)
38. Sally Yates Warned Trump Administration About Flynn-was it another reason she was fired???
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 07:12 AM
Feb 2017

I posted this in LBN but found out it is not considered news.
Anyway--it is a follow up on the WPost OP article and speculates as to why Bates may have been fired. I think reasonable to assume this was one of the reasons.







Tue Feb 14, 2017, 05:03 AM



Report: Acting AG Sally Yates Warned Trump Administration About Flynn (UPDATED)

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by OKNancy (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum). If you believe this was done in error, please contact OKNancy to appeal.
Source: crooksandliars.com



by Karoli Kuns




Why did Donald Trump fire Acting Attorney General Sally Yates? Was it because of her refusal to defend his indefensible executive order, or was it because she warned Trump and his senior staff that General Michael Flynn could be vulnerable to Russian blackmail?


The Washington Post's bombshell report tonight brings back Sally Yates again, this time warning the Trump White House that Michael Flynn could be compromised as a consequence of his conversations with Russian officials.


The acting attorney general informed the Trump White House late last month that she believed Michael Flynn had misled senior administration officials about the nature of his communications with the Russian ambassador to the United States, and warned that the national security adviser was potentially vulnerable to Russian blackmail, current and former U.S. officials said.

The message, delivered by Sally Q. Yates and a senior career national security official to the White House counsel, was prompted by concerns that Flynn, when asked about his calls and texts with the Russian diplomat, had told Vice ­President-elect Mike Pence and others that he had not discussed the Obama administration sanctions on Russia for its interference in the 2016 election, the officials said. It is unclear what the White House counsel, Donald McGahn, did with the information.

Read more: http://crooksandliars.com/2017/02/report-acting-ag-sally-yates-warned-trump


TRUMP-BANNON--all the WH KNEW!!--yes Pence also!!





"So Yates warned this White House that Flynn was vulnerable and likely compromised, and in the process of issuing that warning made it pretty clear they knew Flynn had, in fact, discussed the sanctions imposed by the Obama administration on Russia."






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OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
41. Matt Lauer actually pressed dear, sweet KellyAnne
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 09:01 AM
Feb 2017

about this this morning and she looked like the liar she is. It was almost fun to watch her squirm.

BumRushDaShow

(128,386 posts)
42. Someone posted a tweet with a clip from that in GD
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 09:07 AM
Feb 2017

IMHO, she looked like she realized that she was thrown under the bus and is now resigned to just mouth the words until such time that she goes bye bye.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
43. If you watch it, she takes a deep breath before answering the question
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 09:10 AM
Feb 2017

the same way the second time because she knows it doesn't sound any better when repeated. So sad. (Well, not really)

BumRushDaShow

(128,386 posts)
44. Yup
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 09:12 AM
Feb 2017

Her eyes were deadpan and resigned. Very different from the arrogant glee that she has projected in the past.

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