Trump Campaign Aides Had Repeated Contacts With Russian Intelligence
Source: New York Times
Phone records and intercepted calls show that members of Donald J. Trumps 2016 presidential campaign and other Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election, according to four current and former American officials.
American law enforcement and intelligence agencies intercepted the communications around the same time that they were discovering evidence that Russia was trying to disrupt the presidential election by hacking into the Democratic National Committee, three of the officials said. The intelligence agencies then sought to learn whether the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians on the hacking or other efforts to influence the election.
The officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation.
But the intercepts alarmed American intelligence and law enforcement agencies, in part because of the amount of contact that was occurring while Mr. Trump was speaking glowingly about the Russian president, Vladimir V. Putin. At one point last summer, Mr. Trump said at a campaign event that he hoped Russian intelligence services had stolen Hillary Clintons emails and would make them public.
Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/politics/russia-intelligence-communications-trump.html
Squinch
(51,080 posts)AJT
(5,240 posts)Nothing ever sticks to these guys.
brush
(53,971 posts)intel agents? There is no way trump is in up to his ears with this "coup".
He's coming down, and I hope going to prison.
GP6971
(31,257 posts)but I'm doubtful with this Congress
mobeau69
(11,167 posts)They'll start pealing away day by day.
GeoWilliam750
(2,522 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)one FBI and two congressional. Doesn't look like people in the intelligence services are going to let the FBI and GOP smother this.
You know, some of the attitudes exhibited above are a big, big part of why we're in this mess. Adding millions of resigned "nothing will happens" to the typical conservative's "nothing did happen" is a huge enabler for wrongdoing in government.
Btw, delay, delay, delay until a whiny apathy replaces anger is SOP for getting away with "it." That's McConnell's key strategy for repealing-without-replacing the ACA.
How about zero tolerance, zero acceptance, zero weakening instead?
mobeau69
(11,167 posts)cstanleytech
(26,347 posts)working overtime to delay any investigation while those in the Trump administration work to hide and or destroy any evidence then ya.
ck4829
(35,096 posts)myrna minx
(22,772 posts)myrna minx
(22,772 posts)elleng
(131,338 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,968 posts)KewlKat
(5,624 posts)nothing from the alert says they "helped" with the hacking, but they were having contact DURING the time the ruskies were hacking america
George II
(67,782 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,776 posts)Still defending that MFker and trashing Obama. The idiocracy will support the Rs in doing nothing about this. I hope I'm wrong. Never hoped that more in my life.
TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)...f@#king laptop computer.
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)he was clearly out to stop President Clinton. To stop her momentum.......
TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)that Clinton got elected with the SMALLEST margin possible, and without any Democratic majorities in the Senate or House, so that she'd effectively by paralyzed. Paralyzed and gridlocked like Obama was for the last two years of his Administration.
I think he probably went "oh SHIT" like everybody else when Trump actually won. (Except, in our case, we all said "oh SHIT!" In his case he said "oh SHIT...WHAT HAVE I DONE!?"
Volaris
(10,278 posts)TrollBuster9090
(5,955 posts)he should be indicted. Maybe the two of them can have a meeting and discuss it.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)He certainly did want Agent Orange elected; when his role is more fully revealed, he is going down.
NBachers
(17,183 posts)In other words, the FBI is investigating the FBI's investigation of the FBI investigating the FBI.
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Comey is a Russian mole. I've been saying that for months.
ck4829
(35,096 posts)alfredo
(60,078 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,033 posts)This could be it, folks.
Cooley Hurd
(26,877 posts)Long suspected, but now it's being reported by the Times.
bucolic_frolic
(43,465 posts)was something he said July 27, 2016.
fountainofyouth
(409 posts)It is possible that these contacts still fell short of coordination. It obviously means Congress needs to get involved in this, but there may not be a "smoking gun" to find.
EarlG
(21,985 posts)isn't "...Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election..." incriminating enough?
I mean why would any U.S. presidential campaign have repeated contact with Russian intelligence?
fountainofyouth
(409 posts)Those under official cover and "illegals." There's any number of reasons why Trump people would come into contact with either of them. Those with official cover would be more obvious as possible intelligence officers, since their affiliation with the Russian government would be public.
NewRedDawn
(790 posts)Why would any campaign be in touch with any foreign intelligence not to mention are #1 adversary Russia?
Does not pass the smell test for me! Now if you have someone who you have been grooming blackmailing for years like the Steele dossier states. You draw the conclusions.
fountainofyouth
(409 posts)Anna Chapman came into contact with tons of people who never knew she was a Russian intelligence officer. All the Russians would need is to have someone -- maybe a member of the media, or a lobbyist, e.g. -- who reached out to Trump people at various points to establish a relationship.
NewRedDawn
(790 posts)They took the bait. Steele's dossier sounds very credible. If it wasn't why all of a sudden Putin's purge of his intelligence agency? That action alone says yes!
We have some very serious moles in the Whitehouse & I believe in the NY. FBI.
fountainofyouth
(409 posts)But not fire -- yet. I believe it may surface, but we don't have it now.
NewRedDawn
(790 posts)there is fire. What sealed the deal for me was Putin's actions purging his intelligence after the Steele Dossier. His actions basically confirmed the dossier.
fountainofyouth
(409 posts)What I still don't understand is 1) why senior FSB officials were arrested for treason in December, and 2) the Kremlin leaked it.
NewRedDawn
(790 posts)to other spies working on behalf of us?
DeminPennswoods
(15,294 posts)nt
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,352 posts)herding cats
(19,569 posts)I realize I'm looking at this as a person who stated here in one of their first post DU hack posts that I thought we'd been victims of a coup instigated by Russia. Granted, I was extremely emotional at that point, but there was antidotal evidence at the time which pointed in that direction. Enough I considered it a real possibility.
Now, just over three months later here we find ourselves. My gut says this is a real possibility, and now there's leaks that affirm my own personal thinking. That's an odd feeling. Frankly, it's not a a "good" sensation. It's more a 'sense of fear with a side of disgust' type of feeling. It's deeply unpleasant, to say the least.
I'm not discrediting this out of hand, instead I'm welcoming it as a million lumens of light being directed at what I consider to possibly (probably) be a very real crisis.
The odd thing is, there's been no push back, or even real concern, on this matter by the current congress. Theres a very real chance this isn't "breaking news" to many of them. We know senior senate members were briefed on some classified issue that enraged Democrats, and wasn't addressed by Republicans. The question is, what did our individual members of Congress know, and when did they know it? Follw up question: what did the party in power do about what they knew?
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)The Republican party is working overtime to try to insulate Pence while they throw Trump under the bus, which is why every Republican being interviewed is obligated to volunteer that Pence was totally in the dark even while he was busily denying that there was any contact between the Trump campaign and the Russians.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/15/mike-pence-trump-campaign-russia
Vice-President-elect Mike Pence denied on Sunday that Donald Trumps presidential campaign had any contacts with Russia, insisting investigations into Russian hacking of political parties are a distraction.
Since the election, US intelligence agencies have publicly concluded that the Kremlin orchestrated a series of hacks intended to create chaos, defeat Hillary Clinton and help Trump win the White House.
After weeks of doubting such opinions, Trump this week said: I think it was Russia. But he did not answer questions about alleged contacts between advisers and powerful Russians.
On Sunday, Pence denied there were any such contacts, telling Fox News Sunday: Of course not. Why would there be any contacts between the campaign?
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)I'm starting to change my mind. Public pressure will increase ten fold if this gets wide spread attention.
I just saw that conservative Sen Roy Blunt is even saying there needs to be a full investigation.
Blue Idaho
(5,067 posts)The report says this information comes from a "trove" of information that has not been fully explored. He is the Manchurian Candidate.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)shit just got real and hit the fan and filled the creek...
PSPS
(13,630 posts)Remember that gerrymandering and voter suppression are so bad that the democrats won't have a majority in the house again at least in our lifetimes.
NewRedDawn
(790 posts)Already Town halls are exploding. Add this shit & watch the cockroaches capitulate.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)a lot of suppression and gerrymandering.
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)blitzen
(4,572 posts)JudyM
(29,294 posts)herding cats
(19,569 posts)Patience, Grasshopper.
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)had contact with the ruskies....
Freethinker65
(10,103 posts)Corgigal
(9,291 posts)RICO baby.....they all fall down.
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)...which is why he stepped down.
Corgigal
(9,291 posts)Pressure him, to go for the of the snake.
briv1016
(1,570 posts)Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)The answer they give: It's possible but no, no, this did not occur. I'm not buying it. All the polls before the election could not be that way off the mark.
fountainofyouth
(409 posts)If the polls are off, they'll likely be off in a statistically correlated way across states. Which is what happened. Polls undercounted the white working class vote in the rust belt.
Still no evidence to support tampered results.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)republican treason sucks, and no weak-kneed, anti-American apologists grasping for lame excuses can change that. You are either an American patriot, or you are a traitorous KGOP enabler.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)🙄
Now let's hope some republicans still have a love of country over party to investigate this.
rdking647
(5,113 posts)any action him or pence(once trump is tossed out of office) are not valid
Ccarmona
(1,180 posts)Is going to be on with Joy Reid, sitting in for Lawrence
dalton99a
(81,683 posts)Ccarmona
(1,180 posts)And hope that Comey turns out to be the hero in all this. He screwed up in October, but he could be the one who has been digging into the Russian/Trump connection.
Botany
(70,635 posts)n/t
FailureToCommunicate
(14,029 posts)Hayabusa
(2,135 posts)I think it cheapens the word, but how is this NOT treasonous?
Liberal In Red State
(442 posts)stepped down!!!!!!!!???????!!!!!!
nolabear
(42,002 posts)Getting out in front of what he had to know was potentially a huge story. Crooked media, eh? Lock her up, eh?
peggysue2
(10,849 posts)Malcolm Nance is saying this is the moment he predicted 7 months ago. Repeated contact between Trump aides during the campaign means that all these people who arrogantly thought they could weasel their way around the FBI and Intelligence Community, make deals with Putin and sabotage our election are about to start weeping crocodile tears and lawyering up. The sh*t just hit the fan.
Boom is right. Boom, Boom, Boom!
malchickiwick
(1,474 posts)The Congress, despite its majority of quislings, MUST now become the bulwark against the executive that it was designed to be, in my most humble opinny inny.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)Some alt-right drooler over at Discussionist (which is really an 80% alt-right free for all) replied in defense of Trump and the current administration that if we wanted to change the political power structure it would take a "civil war. "
The other side is frothing out the mouth insane.
kairos12
(12,895 posts)Everything will be called fake news and alternative facts and nothing will happen.
Grammy23
(5,815 posts)But it is complicated and I finally concluded that there may be no truly safe place to go. So imagine the glee I felt as this started cracking open late last night with Flynn "resigning". Some of you can relate and it has been hard to contain the giddiness that tRump is finally getting what is due to him.
The other really startling thing about all of this is knowing we really are witnessing an historic moment in the life of our nation. When Watergate happened I watched the hearings but it just never struck me that I was watching history in the making. Too young and naive. Now that I am older and more informed about things, I KNOW for certain this really is a big deal.
This is unfolding at such a rapid clip, it really is hard to keep up. I know the news hounds here at DU will keep us all informed and for that I say a big THANK YOU!
It's a good day again in the U.S. Maybe our national nightmare will be over soon. Buh-bye, tRump!
UCmeNdc
(9,601 posts)Everybody in the United States must face the truth that Trump stole this election. He has no moral soul. He worked with the Russians in some fashion to win this election and that is why every strange result occurred on election day.
The US must get rid of all of their electronic voting systems. They are compromised. The US must hold independent investigations into Trump and his underlings contact with Russian spies before the elections. Bring them all in and put them under oath.
The United States is under attack from within by Trump and his moles.
Dallasdem1988
(77 posts)Misreading this...or does this all pretty much say nothing. If we have evidence why don't we blow these ****ers out of the water?????
From the article
"The officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation."
I'm lost. Are we free of this nightmare or not??? It says we do but then it literally says we don't. I can't get my hopes up again. I can't do this up and down anymore.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)DeminPennswoods
(15,294 posts)Trump had several Nixon men in his inner circle including the late Roy Cohn, Roger Ailes and Roger Stone. Of these, Stone is the most interesting because he's a known, long time dirty trickster. Then you have Manafort and Page, both with deep ties to Putin/Russia. While I doubt Trump was the mastermind, I think that Stone could well have facilitated the hacking via Manafort and/or Page in order to help elect Trump. It's right up Stone's alley. Stone has the dirty trickster knowledge and the other 2 the necessary contacts to pull off the email theft. And, remember Stone tweeted about Podesta being "next". Perhaps he saw himself avenging what Dems did to Nixon (well, Nixon did it to himself) during the senate Watergate committee (of which a young Hillary Clinton was a part) hearings, too. I think Stone would be the easiest to "flip" also because I don't think he wants to go to jail.
I'm not sure how much anyone knew/knows about Trump's financial ties to Russia, but protecting them would have been a side benefit.
pecosbob
(7,548 posts)Full analysis will show all the money changing hands and that's all you need...from Manafort up to DJT. What was it...15% of Rosneft changing hands?
DeminPennswoods
(15,294 posts)that's a good point, too.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)most foul. Support America. Disband the KGOP and ship them all of to a freaking Gulag so they can spend eternity with their Evil Empire BFFs.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)grrrrrrrrrrrr
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,725 posts)OKNancy
(41,832 posts)Ford_Prefect
(7,927 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(57,725 posts)I'm adding the links to the authors' Twitter feeds. The print edition of the New York Times comes out once a day, unless there's a huge emergency. The Twitter feeds, though, are constantly being updated.
MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT
@nytmike
https://twitter.com/nytmike
MARK MAZZETTI
@MarkMazzettiNYT
https://twitter.com/MarkMazzettiNYT
MATT APUZZO
@mattapuzzo
https://twitter.com/mattapuzzo
I see Paul Manafort is mentioned in the article. I have a long sleeve t-shirt that I bought at a thrift store or rummage sale or yard sale. It's for the Children's Hospice International 10K Run For The Children. The first sponsor listed on the back is Black, Manafort, Stone & Kelly, Paul Manafort's old lobbying firm.
Mr. Sparkle
(2,954 posts)Funnily enough , since the election, i think she has stopped talking about those nothing-burger emails.
FairWinds
(1,717 posts)that Nixon had with S. Vietnam in 1968, and Reagan had with
Iran in 1980. There were likely others.
For the GOP, the rule of law is for suckers and democrats.
When will the Dems stop playing softball?