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EricMaundry

(1,619 posts)
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 10:19 PM Feb 2017

Trump Campaign Aides Had Repeated Contacts With Russian Intelligence

Source: New York Times

Phone records and intercepted calls show that members of Donald J. Trumps 2016 presidential campaign and other Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election, according to four current and former American officials.

American law enforcement and intelligence agencies intercepted the communications around the same time that they were discovering evidence that Russia was trying to disrupt the presidential election by hacking into the Democratic National Committee, three of the officials said. The intelligence agencies then sought to learn whether the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians on the hacking or other efforts to influence the election.

The officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation.

But the intercepts alarmed American intelligence and law enforcement agencies, in part because of the amount of contact that was occurring while Mr. Trump was speaking glowingly about the Russian president, Vladimir V. Putin. At one point last summer, Mr. Trump said at a campaign event that he hoped Russian intelligence services had stolen Hillary Clintons emails and would make them public.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/politics/russia-intelligence-communications-trump.html

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Trump Campaign Aides Had Repeated Contacts With Russian Intelligence (Original Post) EricMaundry Feb 2017 OP
Boom! Here it comes! Squinch Feb 2017 #1
I'll believe it when I see it. AJT Feb 2017 #3
Same here. LisaM Feb 2017 #33
Why else would an American political campaign be constantly in touch with Russian... brush Feb 2017 #39
We can only hope GP6971 Feb 2017 #15
It won't take that many pukes that are willing to put country before party. mobeau69 Feb 2017 #49
So far there seems to be a grand total of maybe two Senators GeoWilliam750 Feb 2017 #60
Drip, drip, drip equals kick, kick, kick to the investigations, Hortensis Feb 2017 #83
hortensis, spot on observation there. mobeau69 Feb 2017 #89
If by "it" you mean the Repugnant coverup attempt by Congress with them cstanleytech Feb 2017 #35
Hopefully ck4829 Feb 2017 #100
K&R myrna minx Feb 2017 #2
Thank you for the hearts, friend. myrna minx Feb 2017 #70
Rachel's on it. elleng Feb 2017 #4
Rachel Maddow is talking about this now. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2017 #5
yes, rachel is covering right now....... KewlKat Feb 2017 #10
This is worse than emails! George II Feb 2017 #6
Ya think ? Trust Buster Feb 2017 #26
Not according to the brainwashed Trumpistas. Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2017 #34
*sigh* And yet, Comey still thought the only investigation worth mentioning was Huma Abedin's TrollBuster9090 Feb 2017 #7
yeah ain't that the bees knees......that ba$tard should be investigated and let go KewlKat Feb 2017 #16
Personally, I don't think Comey's goal was to get Trump elected. I think he wanted to make sure TrollBuster9090 Feb 2017 #22
Then that means he knew he shouldnta done it and he should probably be indicted Volaris Feb 2017 #47
Yeah, Jim Comey knows that he should be indicted, but the problem is that JIM COMEY does NOT think TrollBuster9090 Feb 2017 #76
James "Edgar Hoover" Comey is a Russian mole. lagomorph777 Feb 2017 #95
He is being investigated- The FBI is investigating the FBI investigating the FBI. NBachers Feb 2017 #63
The FBI hard at work....investigatin KewlKat Feb 2017 #65
NO he should not be let go. He should be locked up. lagomorph777 Feb 2017 #91
+1 ck4829 Feb 2017 #99
Holy Shit! alfredo Feb 2017 #8
Trump's behind the hacking. C_U_L8R Feb 2017 #9
Holy shit. It's finally in the Times... Cooley Hurd Feb 2017 #11
Stolen emails bucolic_frolic Feb 2017 #12
Devil's advocate for one sec fountainofyouth Feb 2017 #13
Maybe, but EarlG Feb 2017 #24
There's two kinds of intelligence officers fountainofyouth Feb 2017 #36
you did not answer the question NewRedDawn Feb 2017 #41
Like I said, it may depend on if they were official or illegal operatives fountainofyouth Feb 2017 #46
And? NewRedDawn Feb 2017 #51
There's a shit-ton of smoke fountainofyouth Feb 2017 #53
Where there is smoke NewRedDawn Feb 2017 #56
Definitely damning fountainofyouth Feb 2017 #59
a warning? NewRedDawn Feb 2017 #66
Because someone outed them? DeminPennswoods Feb 2017 #81
Maybe the campaign needed a good Borscht recipe? Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2017 #38
That's the question, isn't it? herding cats Feb 2017 #72
Mike Pence insists Trump campaign has not been in contact with Russia TomCADem Feb 2017 #14
If this comes out, it will be the beginning of the end of Benedict Donald Chasstev365 Feb 2017 #17
Comrade Trump is screwn. Blue Idaho Feb 2017 #18
IMPEACH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #19
Sorry, but it will never happen with the house in the firm grip of the GOP. PSPS Feb 2017 #25
so let them stall & pay the consequences. NewRedDawn Feb 2017 #44
exactly-- the more they align with Trump, the more likely they will go down with him Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #87
I'm more optimistic that Dems can take back the House... the awfulness of Trump can overcome Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #86
i thnk rachel said 4 people named but heard only manafort KewlKat Feb 2017 #20
Geez the NYT and Wash Post are nonchalantly dropping bombshells every night! n/t blitzen Feb 2017 #21
And yet, teflon don is still standing. JudyM Feb 2017 #52
It's only been less than one month. herding cats Feb 2017 #74
multiple campaign aides in the year BEFORE the election KewlKat Feb 2017 #23
But we already knew this before the election Freethinker65 Feb 2017 #27
And Flynn is probably trying to save his behind now Corgigal Feb 2017 #28
Flynn Probably Has An Assurance of a Pardon if convicted... TomCADem Feb 2017 #29
Don't charge him now Corgigal Feb 2017 #32
If they even suspect he might flip, he'll be disappeared before the weekend. briv1016 Feb 2017 #67
This is what happens when you diss the intelligence community. Trust Buster Feb 2017 #30
Mama said knock you out, Mama said knock you out. sarcasmo Feb 2017 #31
The question: Did Russian tech operatives hack voting machines in our Pres. Election? YOHABLO Feb 2017 #37
Remember what Nate Silver said fountainofyouth Feb 2017 #42
republicans let the Evil Empire russians jerk electoral strings against America Achilleaze Feb 2017 #85
Here's my shocked face tammywammy Feb 2017 #40
thast settles it. trump is not a legitimate president rdking647 Feb 2017 #43
One of the NYT Writers Ccarmona Feb 2017 #45
Exactly as suspected. dalton99a Feb 2017 #48
I Think Ccarmona Feb 2017 #50
. briv1016 Feb 2017 #68
It was a coup and people are guilty of Treason Botany Feb 2017 #54
K & R ! FailureToCommunicate Feb 2017 #55
I don't like to throw the word "treason" around. Hayabusa Feb 2017 #57
DUH!!!!! Why did this not come out before the election or at the very least before Obama Liberal In Red State Feb 2017 #58
Now you see why he's been claiming the press can't be trusted. nolabear Feb 2017 #61
Nance is on with Joy Reid peggysue2 Feb 2017 #62
Treason Most Foul!! malchickiwick Feb 2017 #64
Shit is hitting the fan right now jimlup Feb 2017 #69
Nothing will happen unless his popularity drops below 30%. He's at 40 now. kairos12 Feb 2017 #71
I've been so morose since Nov. 8th and even looked at leaving the U.S. Grammy23 Feb 2017 #73
The NSA, CIA, and FBI must get a handle on the extent of Trump's Treason UCmeNdc Feb 2017 #75
Am I... Dallasdem1988 Feb 2017 #77
kick OKNancy Feb 2017 #78
My theory DeminPennswoods Feb 2017 #79
It's all about the money pecosbob Feb 2017 #80
Good point DeminPennswoods Feb 2017 #82
republican TREASON Achilleaze Feb 2017 #84
and another kick because topic keeps getting duplicated OKNancy Feb 2017 #88
It's another benefit of the ***** administration: full employment for forum hosts. NT mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2017 #93
LOL - thanks for my morning laugh OKNancy Feb 2017 #94
The shit is heading towards the fan as we speak. Ford_Prefect Feb 2017 #90
By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT, MARK MAZZETTI and MATT APUZZO FEB. 14, 2017 mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2017 #92
but but but , what about Hilary's emails / Andrea Mitchell Mr. Sparkle Feb 2017 #96
This is eerily similar to the contacts . . FairWinds Feb 2017 #97
K&R ck4829 Feb 2017 #98

brush

(53,971 posts)
39. Why else would an American political campaign be constantly in touch with Russian...
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 10:50 PM
Feb 2017

intel agents? There is no way trump is in up to his ears with this "coup".

He's coming down, and I hope going to prison.

mobeau69

(11,167 posts)
49. It won't take that many pukes that are willing to put country before party.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 11:10 PM
Feb 2017

They'll start pealing away day by day.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
83. Drip, drip, drip equals kick, kick, kick to the investigations,
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 06:08 AM
Feb 2017

one FBI and two congressional. Doesn't look like people in the intelligence services are going to let the FBI and GOP smother this.

You know, some of the attitudes exhibited above are a big, big part of why we're in this mess. Adding millions of resigned "nothing will happens" to the typical conservative's "nothing did happen" is a huge enabler for wrongdoing in government.

Btw, delay, delay, delay until a whiny apathy replaces anger is SOP for getting away with "it." That's McConnell's key strategy for repealing-without-replacing the ACA.

How about zero tolerance, zero acceptance, zero weakening instead?

cstanleytech

(26,347 posts)
35. If by "it" you mean the Repugnant coverup attempt by Congress with them
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 10:44 PM
Feb 2017

working overtime to delay any investigation while those in the Trump administration work to hide and or destroy any evidence then ya.

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
10. yes, rachel is covering right now.......
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 10:28 PM
Feb 2017

nothing from the alert says they "helped" with the hacking, but they were having contact DURING the time the ruskies were hacking america

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,776 posts)
34. Not according to the brainwashed Trumpistas.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 10:43 PM
Feb 2017

Still defending that MFker and trashing Obama. The idiocracy will support the Rs in doing nothing about this. I hope I'm wrong. Never hoped that more in my life.

TrollBuster9090

(5,955 posts)
7. *sigh* And yet, Comey still thought the only investigation worth mentioning was Huma Abedin's
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 10:27 PM
Feb 2017

...f@#king laptop computer.

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
16. yeah ain't that the bees knees......that ba$tard should be investigated and let go
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 10:29 PM
Feb 2017

he was clearly out to stop President Clinton. To stop her momentum.......

TrollBuster9090

(5,955 posts)
22. Personally, I don't think Comey's goal was to get Trump elected. I think he wanted to make sure
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 10:34 PM
Feb 2017

that Clinton got elected with the SMALLEST margin possible, and without any Democratic majorities in the Senate or House, so that she'd effectively by paralyzed. Paralyzed and gridlocked like Obama was for the last two years of his Administration.

I think he probably went "oh SHIT" like everybody else when Trump actually won. (Except, in our case, we all said "oh SHIT!" In his case he said "oh SHIT...WHAT HAVE I DONE!?&quot

TrollBuster9090

(5,955 posts)
76. Yeah, Jim Comey knows that he should be indicted, but the problem is that JIM COMEY does NOT think
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 03:28 AM
Feb 2017

he should be indicted. Maybe the two of them can have a meeting and discuss it.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
95. James "Edgar Hoover" Comey is a Russian mole.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:50 AM
Feb 2017

He certainly did want Agent Orange elected; when his role is more fully revealed, he is going down.

NBachers

(17,183 posts)
63. He is being investigated- The FBI is investigating the FBI investigating the FBI.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 11:44 PM
Feb 2017

In other words, the FBI is investigating the FBI's investigation of the FBI investigating the FBI.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
91. NO he should not be let go. He should be locked up.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:22 AM
Feb 2017

Comey is a Russian mole. I've been saying that for months.

fountainofyouth

(409 posts)
13. Devil's advocate for one sec
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 10:29 PM
Feb 2017

It is possible that these contacts still fell short of coordination. It obviously means Congress needs to get involved in this, but there may not be a "smoking gun" to find.

EarlG

(21,985 posts)
24. Maybe, but
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 10:35 PM
Feb 2017

isn't "...Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election..." incriminating enough?

I mean why would any U.S. presidential campaign have repeated contact with Russian intelligence?

fountainofyouth

(409 posts)
36. There's two kinds of intelligence officers
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 10:45 PM
Feb 2017

Those under official cover and "illegals." There's any number of reasons why Trump people would come into contact with either of them. Those with official cover would be more obvious as possible intelligence officers, since their affiliation with the Russian government would be public.

 

NewRedDawn

(790 posts)
41. you did not answer the question
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 10:57 PM
Feb 2017

Why would any campaign be in touch with any foreign intelligence not to mention are #1 adversary Russia?
Does not pass the smell test for me! Now if you have someone who you have been grooming blackmailing for years like the Steele dossier states. You draw the conclusions.

fountainofyouth

(409 posts)
46. Like I said, it may depend on if they were official or illegal operatives
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 11:03 PM
Feb 2017

Anna Chapman came into contact with tons of people who never knew she was a Russian intelligence officer. All the Russians would need is to have someone -- maybe a member of the media, or a lobbyist, e.g. -- who reached out to Trump people at various points to establish a relationship.

 

NewRedDawn

(790 posts)
51. And?
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 11:15 PM
Feb 2017

They took the bait. Steele's dossier sounds very credible. If it wasn't why all of a sudden Putin's purge of his intelligence agency? That action alone says yes!
We have some very serious moles in the Whitehouse & I believe in the NY. FBI.

 

NewRedDawn

(790 posts)
56. Where there is smoke
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 11:28 PM
Feb 2017

there is fire. What sealed the deal for me was Putin's actions purging his intelligence after the Steele Dossier. His actions basically confirmed the dossier.

fountainofyouth

(409 posts)
59. Definitely damning
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 11:37 PM
Feb 2017

What I still don't understand is 1) why senior FSB officials were arrested for treason in December, and 2) the Kremlin leaked it.

herding cats

(19,569 posts)
72. That's the question, isn't it?
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 01:47 AM
Feb 2017

I realize I'm looking at this as a person who stated here in one of their first post DU hack posts that I thought we'd been victims of a coup instigated by Russia. Granted, I was extremely emotional at that point, but there was antidotal evidence at the time which pointed in that direction. Enough I considered it a real possibility.

Now, just over three months later here we find ourselves. My gut says this is a real possibility, and now there's leaks that affirm my own personal thinking. That's an odd feeling. Frankly, it's not a a "good" sensation. It's more a 'sense of fear with a side of disgust' type of feeling. It's deeply unpleasant, to say the least.

I'm not discrediting this out of hand, instead I'm welcoming it as a million lumens of light being directed at what I consider to possibly (probably) be a very real crisis.

The odd thing is, there's been no push back, or even real concern, on this matter by the current congress. Theres a very real chance this isn't "breaking news" to many of them. We know senior senate members were briefed on some classified issue that enraged Democrats, and wasn't addressed by Republicans. The question is, what did our individual members of Congress know, and when did they know it? Follw up question: what did the party in power do about what they knew?




TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
14. Mike Pence insists Trump campaign has not been in contact with Russia
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 10:29 PM
Feb 2017

The Republican party is working overtime to try to insulate Pence while they throw Trump under the bus, which is why every Republican being interviewed is obligated to volunteer that Pence was totally in the dark even while he was busily denying that there was any contact between the Trump campaign and the Russians.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/15/mike-pence-trump-campaign-russia

Vice-President-elect Mike Pence denied on Sunday that Donald Trump’s presidential campaign had any contacts with Russia, insisting investigations into Russian hacking of political parties are “a distraction”.

Since the election, US intelligence agencies have publicly concluded that the Kremlin orchestrated a series of hacks intended to create chaos, defeat Hillary Clinton and help Trump win the White House.

After weeks of doubting such opinions, Trump this week said: “I think it was Russia.” But he did not answer questions about alleged contacts between advisers and powerful Russians.

On Sunday, Pence denied there were any such contacts, telling Fox News Sunday: “Of course not. Why would there be any contacts between the campaign?


Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
17. If this comes out, it will be the beginning of the end of Benedict Donald
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 10:30 PM
Feb 2017

I'm starting to change my mind. Public pressure will increase ten fold if this gets wide spread attention.

I just saw that conservative Sen Roy Blunt is even saying there needs to be a full investigation.

Blue Idaho

(5,067 posts)
18. Comrade Trump is screwn.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 10:31 PM
Feb 2017

The report says this information comes from a "trove" of information that has not been fully explored. He is the Manchurian Candidate.

PSPS

(13,630 posts)
25. Sorry, but it will never happen with the house in the firm grip of the GOP.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 10:36 PM
Feb 2017

Remember that gerrymandering and voter suppression are so bad that the democrats won't have a majority in the house again at least in our lifetimes.

 

NewRedDawn

(790 posts)
44. so let them stall & pay the consequences.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 11:00 PM
Feb 2017

Already Town halls are exploding. Add this shit & watch the cockroaches capitulate.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
86. I'm more optimistic that Dems can take back the House... the awfulness of Trump can overcome
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 07:20 AM
Feb 2017

a lot of suppression and gerrymandering.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
37. The question: Did Russian tech operatives hack voting machines in our Pres. Election?
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 10:46 PM
Feb 2017

The answer they give: It's possible but no, no, this did not occur. I'm not buying it. All the polls before the election could not be that way off the mark.

fountainofyouth

(409 posts)
42. Remember what Nate Silver said
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 10:59 PM
Feb 2017

If the polls are off, they'll likely be off in a statistically correlated way across states. Which is what happened. Polls undercounted the white working class vote in the rust belt.

Still no evidence to support tampered results.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
85. republicans let the Evil Empire russians jerk electoral strings against America
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 06:41 AM
Feb 2017

republican treason sucks, and no weak-kneed, anti-American apologists grasping for lame excuses can change that. You are either an American patriot, or you are a traitorous KGOP enabler.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
40. Here's my shocked face
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 10:56 PM
Feb 2017

🙄

Now let's hope some republicans still have a love of country over party to investigate this.

 

rdking647

(5,113 posts)
43. thast settles it. trump is not a legitimate president
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 11:00 PM
Feb 2017

any action him or pence(once trump is tossed out of office) are not valid

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
50. I Think
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 11:13 PM
Feb 2017

And hope that Comey turns out to be the hero in all this. He screwed up in October, but he could be the one who has been digging into the Russian/Trump connection.

Hayabusa

(2,135 posts)
57. I don't like to throw the word "treason" around.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 11:37 PM
Feb 2017

I think it cheapens the word, but how is this NOT treasonous?

58. DUH!!!!! Why did this not come out before the election or at the very least before Obama
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 11:37 PM
Feb 2017

stepped down!!!!!!!!???????!!!!!!

nolabear

(42,002 posts)
61. Now you see why he's been claiming the press can't be trusted.
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 11:39 PM
Feb 2017

Getting out in front of what he had to know was potentially a huge story. Crooked media, eh? Lock her up, eh?

peggysue2

(10,849 posts)
62. Nance is on with Joy Reid
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 11:42 PM
Feb 2017

Malcolm Nance is saying this is the moment he predicted 7 months ago. Repeated contact between Trump aides during the campaign means that all these people who arrogantly thought they could weasel their way around the FBI and Intelligence Community, make deals with Putin and sabotage our election are about to start weeping crocodile tears and lawyering up. The sh*t just hit the fan.

Boom is right. Boom, Boom, Boom!

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
64. Treason Most Foul!!
Tue Feb 14, 2017, 11:51 PM
Feb 2017

The Congress, despite its majority of quislings, MUST now become the bulwark against the executive that it was designed to be, in my most humble opinny inny.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
69. Shit is hitting the fan right now
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 12:49 AM
Feb 2017

Some alt-right drooler over at Discussionist (which is really an 80% alt-right free for all) replied in defense of Trump and the current administration that if we wanted to change the political power structure it would take a "civil war. "

The other side is frothing out the mouth insane.

kairos12

(12,895 posts)
71. Nothing will happen unless his popularity drops below 30%. He's at 40 now.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 01:01 AM
Feb 2017

Everything will be called fake news and alternative facts and nothing will happen.

Grammy23

(5,815 posts)
73. I've been so morose since Nov. 8th and even looked at leaving the U.S.
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 02:01 AM
Feb 2017

But it is complicated and I finally concluded that there may be no truly safe place to go. So imagine the glee I felt as this started cracking open late last night with Flynn "resigning". Some of you can relate and it has been hard to contain the giddiness that tRump is finally getting what is due to him.

The other really startling thing about all of this is knowing we really are witnessing an historic moment in the life of our nation. When Watergate happened I watched the hearings but it just never struck me that I was watching history in the making. Too young and naive. Now that I am older and more informed about things, I KNOW for certain this really is a big deal.

This is unfolding at such a rapid clip, it really is hard to keep up. I know the news hounds here at DU will keep us all informed and for that I say a big THANK YOU!

It's a good day again in the U.S. Maybe our national nightmare will be over soon. Buh-bye, tRump!

UCmeNdc

(9,601 posts)
75. The NSA, CIA, and FBI must get a handle on the extent of Trump's Treason
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 03:10 AM
Feb 2017

Everybody in the United States must face the truth that Trump stole this election. He has no moral soul. He worked with the Russians in some fashion to win this election and that is why every strange result occurred on election day.

The US must get rid of all of their electronic voting systems. They are compromised. The US must hold independent investigations into Trump and his underlings contact with Russian spies before the elections. Bring them all in and put them under oath.

The United States is under attack from within by Trump and his moles.

 

Dallasdem1988

(77 posts)
77. Am I...
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 05:04 AM
Feb 2017

Misreading this...or does this all pretty much say nothing. If we have evidence why don't we blow these ****ers out of the water?????


From the article

"The officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation."

I'm lost. Are we free of this nightmare or not??? It says we do but then it literally says we don't. I can't get my hopes up again. I can't do this up and down anymore.

DeminPennswoods

(15,294 posts)
79. My theory
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 05:53 AM
Feb 2017

Trump had several Nixon men in his inner circle including the late Roy Cohn, Roger Ailes and Roger Stone. Of these, Stone is the most interesting because he's a known, long time dirty trickster. Then you have Manafort and Page, both with deep ties to Putin/Russia. While I doubt Trump was the mastermind, I think that Stone could well have facilitated the hacking via Manafort and/or Page in order to help elect Trump. It's right up Stone's alley. Stone has the dirty trickster knowledge and the other 2 the necessary contacts to pull off the email theft. And, remember Stone tweeted about Podesta being "next". Perhaps he saw himself avenging what Dems did to Nixon (well, Nixon did it to himself) during the senate Watergate committee (of which a young Hillary Clinton was a part) hearings, too. I think Stone would be the easiest to "flip" also because I don't think he wants to go to jail.

I'm not sure how much anyone knew/knows about Trump's financial ties to Russia, but protecting them would have been a side benefit.

pecosbob

(7,548 posts)
80. It's all about the money
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 05:56 AM
Feb 2017

Full analysis will show all the money changing hands and that's all you need...from Manafort up to DJT. What was it...15% of Rosneft changing hands?

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
84. republican TREASON
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 06:36 AM
Feb 2017

most foul. Support America. Disband the KGOP and ship them all of to a freaking Gulag so they can spend eternity with their Evil Empire BFFs.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,725 posts)
92. By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT, MARK MAZZETTI and MATT APUZZO FEB. 14, 2017
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 10:28 AM
Feb 2017

I'm adding the links to the authors' Twitter feeds. The print edition of the New York Times comes out once a day, unless there's a huge emergency. The Twitter feeds, though, are constantly being updated.

MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT
@nytmike
https://twitter.com/nytmike

MARK MAZZETTI
@MarkMazzettiNYT
https://twitter.com/MarkMazzettiNYT

MATT APUZZO
@mattapuzzo
https://twitter.com/mattapuzzo

I see Paul Manafort is mentioned in the article. I have a long sleeve t-shirt that I bought at a thrift store or rummage sale or yard sale. It's for the Children's Hospice International 10K Run For The Children. The first sponsor listed on the back is Black, Manafort, Stone & Kelly, Paul Manafort's old lobbying firm.

Mr. Sparkle

(2,954 posts)
96. but but but , what about Hilary's emails / Andrea Mitchell
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 02:14 PM
Feb 2017

Funnily enough , since the election, i think she has stopped talking about those nothing-burger emails.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
97. This is eerily similar to the contacts . .
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 02:57 PM
Feb 2017

that Nixon had with S. Vietnam in 1968, and Reagan had with
Iran in 1980. There were likely others.

For the GOP, the rule of law is for suckers and democrats.

When will the Dems stop playing softball?

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