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milestogo

(16,829 posts)
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:05 PM Feb 2017

Utah Republican argues against equal pay for women: Its bad for families and society

Source: Washington Post

In a letter criticizing a bill that addresses pay gap in the workforce, a Utah Republican said that men have traditionally earned more than women and, citing “simple economics,” argued that things should stay that way.

James Green’s letter to the editor, published in two local publications earlier this week, immediately prompted such outrage that within two days, Green had written an apology and resigned from his post as vice chair of the Wasatch County Republican Party.

Green said in his letter, published Wednesday by the Park Record and the Wasatch Wave, that men make more than women because they’re “the primary breadwinners” of their families, and paying women equally would somehow ruin the makeup of a traditional family where “the Mother” remains at home raising children.

“If businesses are forced to pay women the same as male earnings, that means they will have to reduce the pay for the men they employ, simple economics,” Green wrote. “If that happens, then men will have an even more difficult time earning enough to support their families, which will mean more Mothers will be forced to leave the home (where they may prefer to be) to join the workforce to make up the difference.”

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/02/19/utah-republican-argues-against-equal-pay-for-women-its-bad-for-families-and-society/?utm_term=.d0bcf200eab9&wpisrc=nl_most-draw14&wpmm=1



A man without a clue.
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Utah Republican argues against equal pay for women: Its bad for families and society (Original Post) milestogo Feb 2017 OP
Fuck them shenmue Feb 2017 #1
Back to the 19th century with you. Vinca Feb 2017 #2
And he was soundly smacked and the fuckface resigned. CurtEastPoint Feb 2017 #3
Too bad he won't change his opinion, though. George II Feb 2017 #6
Nope. Not a Mormon chance in hell... CurtEastPoint Feb 2017 #7
You mean a Mormon's chance in Heaven, right? George II Feb 2017 #8
You nailed it. Wellstone ruled Feb 2017 #10
If there's one redeeming factor coming out of the hell we're living through... C Moon Feb 2017 #4
Hope so. This one acted out and was smacked for it. Hortensis Feb 2017 #13
Typical stupid Republican riversedge Feb 2017 #5
I would think most families would welcome more money n/t TexasBushwhacker Feb 2017 #9
Outrageous!! Honeycombe8 Feb 2017 #11
The irony here being BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #12
Yep. My mom had to get a job when the farm crisis hit in the 80's NickB79 Feb 2017 #25
Don't tell me - let me guess... Blue Idaho Feb 2017 #14
What about men who do not have a family to support? keithbvadu2 Feb 2017 #15
what about single women? Skittles Feb 2017 #16
He has a few pieces missing from his equations keithbvadu2 Feb 2017 #17
in his mind, women are simply worth less Skittles Feb 2017 #22
The idea deserves a lot of thought and study. keithbvadu2 Feb 2017 #21
For single moms, it's punishment for not keeping their legs closed NickB79 Feb 2017 #27
Well,women only have to work until they find a man. LakeArenal Feb 2017 #30
They don't count not fooled Feb 2017 #19
afraid their the women they trod upon will leave that's all luvMIdog Feb 2017 #18
Simultaneously, this neanderthal's colleagues claim there is no gender based wage discrimination. Mc Mike Feb 2017 #20
Nothing new in this story, flashback 45 years oldcynic Feb 2017 #23
typical Repuke male is afraid of ANY competition at all. Denverchick Feb 2017 #24
This is exactly what this election was about. BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #28
Thanks! Denverchick Feb 2017 #34
Yeah, how could men boss everybody around if they didn't make more money? Warpy Feb 2017 #26
And no women should ever think about becoming POTUS. oasis Feb 2017 #29
it's pretty obvious they were NEVER going to let Hillary be president Skittles Feb 2017 #33
He's wrong on two counts Worktodo Feb 2017 #31
Idiot Solly Mack Feb 2017 #32

C Moon

(12,213 posts)
4. If there's one redeeming factor coming out of the hell we're living through...
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 02:10 PM
Feb 2017

it's that these freaks are vocally coming out of the woodwork. They feel it's okay to be against personal freedoms; it's okay to be a racist; it's okay to be misogynistic.
It's not.
And notes are being taken.

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
12. The irony here being
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:10 PM
Feb 2017

that thanks to Raygun, the wages went into such a tailspin that many women who opted to "stay home and raise the children", could no longer do so as it took 2 (purposely-reduced due to greed) incomes to maintain that family.

As it is, for many POC women, our reality has always been that of working outside the home (in many cases by force) ever since we were dragged kicking and screaming here in chains.

Enough is enough.

NickB79

(19,243 posts)
25. Yep. My mom had to get a job when the farm crisis hit in the 80's
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 06:38 PM
Feb 2017

While Reagan let small family farmers lose their land, my mom had to work overnights at a nursing home AND work the farm during the day with me and my dad just so we didn't starve.

keithbvadu2

(36,804 posts)
15. What about men who do not have a family to support?
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 03:18 PM
Feb 2017

Last edited Sun Feb 19, 2017, 05:55 PM - Edit history (1)

What about men who do not have a family to support?

They do not need/deserve the extra pay and should get a woman's wage?

keithbvadu2

(36,804 posts)
17. He has a few pieces missing from his equations
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 04:48 PM
Feb 2017

Last edited Sun Feb 19, 2017, 06:03 PM - Edit history (2)

What about single women with a family?

Shouldn't they be paid the higher wage?

keithbvadu2

(36,804 posts)
21. The idea deserves a lot of thought and study.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 06:05 PM
Feb 2017

The idea deserves a lot of thought and study.

Can't rush into it, you know.

luvMIdog

(2,533 posts)
18. afraid their the women they trod upon will leave that's all
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 05:01 PM
Feb 2017

they're just afraid that once their women can afford to leave them they will. Makes it harder to beat your dang wife dang it

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
20. Simultaneously, this neanderthal's colleagues claim there is no gender based wage discrimination.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 05:58 PM
Feb 2017

And it's simple economic reality that those jobs that allowed for a single income family to live comfortably have been wiped out, for the vast majority of the working class population. So shithead Green's solution keeps the woman working to help her family, because they need the income. It just makes sure she can't help them as much financially, but she still has to spend as much time at work and 'away from their home and families, where they may prefer to be'.

He's just blatantly working for the interests of the penny pinching and sexist boss, and dressing it up in 'concern' for the 'traditional family' b.s.

oldcynic

(385 posts)
23. Nothing new in this story, flashback 45 years
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 06:25 PM
Feb 2017

I worked for a company manufacturing circuit boards in about 1972. Only women were assigned to soldering components and only men made the boards (it was a long time ago...they were big). There was a significant difference in what men and women were paid, so I asked why. Bad habit of mine. The boss man (what else) actually told me that men were heads of household and women weren't.
It's the same strategy used by the right wing when fundamentalist religion deliberately began to take over school boards and local offices, patiently working their way up to the White House. This type of deplorable behavior is occurring all over the country.

Denverchick

(17 posts)
24. typical Repuke male is afraid of ANY competition at all.
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 06:33 PM
Feb 2017

They are afraid that they might not automatically get paid more, get hired first, get the promotion first. Because if they have to compete with women and minorities it means they actually have to work, to do a good job, to excel at their profession. They are the ones who want the fucking handouts.

Warpy

(111,259 posts)
26. Yeah, how could men boss everybody around if they didn't make more money?
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 06:40 PM
Feb 2017

Shoot, somebody might expect them to mop a floor or unload the dishwasher or something!

Yeah, this is what they're really saying. Schmucks.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
33. it's pretty obvious they were NEVER going to let Hillary be president
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 11:42 PM
Feb 2017

even the freaking FBI got in on the Hillary Hysteria

Worktodo

(288 posts)
31. He's wrong on two counts
Sun Feb 19, 2017, 09:16 PM
Feb 2017

First it's flat out discriminatory. Second, lower wages (and lower spending power) affects everyone. It part of the "wealth gap" everyone talks about. One way to bridge this is to tax wealthy people more and working people less. Perhaps the average CEO who makes 350 times or more of the average worker has more to do with it than fair wages for equal work.

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