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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 12:54 PM Feb 2017

CEOs of 16 U.S. companies urge Congress to pass border tax

Source: Reuters



Tue Feb 21, 2017 | 11:36am EST

By Ginger Gibson | WASHINGTON

Chief executive officers of 16 companies, including Boeing Co (BA.N), Caterpillar Inc (CAT.N) and General Electric Co (GE.N), have urged the U.S. Congress to pass a comprehensive tax code rewrite, including a controversial border tax.

In a letter to Republican and Democratic leadership on Tuesday, the CEOs said a Republican-proposed border adjustment tax would make U.S.-manufactured products more competitive abroad and at home by making imported goods face the same level of taxation. It was the latest move in a back-and-forth lobbying effort from companies over changes to the tax code.

Republican House Speaker Paul Ryan has proposed lowering the corporate income tax to 20 percent from 35 percent, imposing a 20 percent tax on imports and excluding export revenue from taxable income.

The proposal has drawn opposition from large U.S. corporations that require imports, like retailers and auto manufacturers. Those that export much of their output tend to support the tax code changes.


Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-congress-tax-idUSKBN1601E8?il=0

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CEOs of 16 U.S. companies urge Congress to pass border tax (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2017 OP
I can 100% guarantee, that if it's good for General Electric Friend or Foe Feb 2017 #1
Does GE even pay taxes? Rowdyag Feb 2017 #3
GE is one of the crappiest companies I've ever dealt with MosheFeingold Feb 2017 #6
it's remarkably difficult to see how this doesn't cause a world-wide depression. unblock Feb 2017 #2
A border tax or tariff is a bad idea Sherman A1 Feb 2017 #4
A lot, sure MosheFeingold Feb 2017 #5
I'm a produce manager LishaD35 Feb 2017 #8
I worked Produce for 20 years myself Sherman A1 Feb 2017 #11
Duh... Ms. Toad Feb 2017 #7
Anyone for a trade war? Blue Idaho Feb 2017 #9
"The proposal has drawn opposition from large U.S. corporations" BumRushDaShow Feb 2017 #10

unblock

(52,116 posts)
2. it's remarkably difficult to see how this doesn't cause a world-wide depression.
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 01:01 PM
Feb 2017

other countries really have no choice but to retaliate. they can't just say to their businesses that export to the u.s., hey, just deal with the fact that your prices are now effectively 20% higher and your sales will plummet.


*even if this is a good idea*, at best it's only a good idea in a few years, after the u.s. can rebuild its ability to replace domestically what we currently import. in the meanwhile, there would be people and businesses would pay through the nose, and adapt buy simply buying less.

i.e., a serious economic contraction.

but hey, 16 companies that only see the upside from less foreign competition might see a rise in profits, so hey, i guess that makes it all worthwhile.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
4. A border tax or tariff is a bad idea
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 01:08 PM
Feb 2017

Just look at your local grocery store produce department. So much comes from south of the border.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
5. A lot, sure
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 01:17 PM
Feb 2017

But outside of produce out of season, certain spices, and coffee, most food is domestically-produced, albeit with migrant labor. (And that's a big "albeit.&quot . And I imagine foodstuff would get exempted.

Where the price of things would really go up consistently would be consumer goods and clothing, only a small fraction of which is produced domestically.

It would turn out to be effectively a sales or consumption tax, which is both good and bad.

A consumption tax more effectively targets the rich (as opposed to the high income, which is related, but not the same thing). It would be a personal incentive to stop all the waste in our consumption-driven society.

And, by the nature of rich people buying rich people things (e.g., I love my imported coffee), it's progressive.

So, while Trump's motive here is stupid nativism and protectionism (and there is nothing wrong with protecting domestic workers -- they have been legit screwed), the result is OK.

Use his stupidity for our ends.

LishaD35

(40 posts)
8. I'm a produce manager
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 01:40 PM
Feb 2017

Our department is 100% organic and there are a lot of items that come from out of the country. Not just out of season produce. Organic is a booming industry and our production isn't up to the demand yet. It takes 3 years to turn a field to organic. In that time many people who need organic would find it completely unaffordable.

I don't know how I feel yet about a border tax, but it is a multifaceted subject. More than just out of season produce and 16 companies.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
11. I worked Produce for 20 years myself
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 02:01 PM
Feb 2017

before going to Grocery and then Receiving before my retirement last year. All of it is hard work. From what I saw a lot of in season produce comes from Mexico and a lot of the tomatoes that are used in all sorts of things come from there as well.

Can't make that pasta sauce without tomatoes.

This tax idea is a very, very bad idea for anyone who eats and I'm pretty sure that is most of us.

Ms. Toad

(33,992 posts)
7. Duh...
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 01:26 PM
Feb 2017
The proposal has drawn opposition from large U.S. corporations that require imports, like retailers and auto manufacturers. Those that export much of their output tend to support the tax code changes.


Ultimately, we will pay whatever border tax is collected via higher priced goods.

But it should come as no surprise to anyone that net exporters will be thrilled that net importers will have to price their goods 20% higher or take a loss.

Blue Idaho

(5,038 posts)
9. Anyone for a trade war?
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 01:44 PM
Feb 2017

maybe good for protecting corporations but a trade war will destroy the security of working Americans. Hell, most of these companies don't even bother to pay taxes!

BumRushDaShow

(128,445 posts)
10. "The proposal has drawn opposition from large U.S. corporations"
Tue Feb 21, 2017, 01:59 PM
Feb 2017

like Walmart. Wait until the Walton family wakes up and then makes a phone call. That will be the end of that.

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