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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 03:16 AM Feb 2017

California Secession Advocate Faces Scrutiny Over Where Hes Based: Russia

Source: MSN/NY Times

YEKATERINBURG, Russia — This provincial Russian city, about 1,000 miles east of Moscow, is about as unlikely a place as any to find the leader of one of the more unlikely political causes to arise in opposition to President Trump. But Louis J. Marinelli, the 30-year-old English teacher who is the president of the Yes California movement, which seeks independence for the state, has decided to call it home.

Word of “Calexit,” a Quixotic idea that has floated around California for years, spread on social media after the election of Mr. Trump in November. Even though it has virtually no chance of succeeding — it would require an amendment to the Constitution — it has gained some traction in the state. Several technology industry leaders have voiced their support, and a ballot measure is in the works for the 2018 election.

Now with renewed attention on the movement, Mr. Marinelli is under scrutiny for living in a country that many in the United States see as an adversarial power.

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And back in California, he is on the defensive for accepting travel expenses and office space from a Kremlin-linked nationalist group. That acceptance has raised the prospect that Russia, after meddling in the election to try to tip the vote to Mr. Trump, as United States intelligence agencies have said, is now gleefully stoking divisions in America by backing a radical liberal movement.



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Trump and Republicans are increasingly liking Putin, but lets not forget that Russia is continuing to try to sow havok in the U.S. by promoting secession movements in both Texas and California.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/texas-california-separatists-attend-pro-kremlin-conference/story?id=42395066

Texas, California Separatists Attend Kremlin-Funded Conference

Nate Smith, executive director of the Texas Nationalist Movement, looked uncertain as a man identifying himself as an east Ukrainian resistance fighter pledged solidarity to Smith’s struggle for an independent Texas. Standing in a conference room in the Ritz Hotel in central Moscow on Sunday, Smith nodded noncommittally and handed over his business card.

It wasn’t the only incongruous encounter taking place at the Ritz at what has been dubbed Moscow’s international conference of separatists, an eclectic Kremlin-funded gathering of organizations and sometimes wacky individuals pressing for self-rule for often unlikely territories.

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And among the few dozen activists comparing ideas for how to achieve self-determination, were two Americans campaigning for Texan and Californian secession from the United States.

The conference, now in its second year, is funded largely by the Kremlin and organized by the Anti-Globalization Movement of Russia, a group that closely follows government positions. The movement says it is unconnected to the Kremlin, but the hotel conference was almost entirely paid for by a charitable fund founded by President Vladimir Putin, which provided close to $546,000 for the project, according to public records. The attendees, including the Texan delegate, had been offered free flights and accommodation.
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SunSeeker

(51,552 posts)
2. I wish Putin would just concentrate on making his people's lives better.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 03:21 AM
Feb 2017

Instead of trying to make ours as miserable as theirs.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
3. This is why a Special Prosecutor with subpoena powers has to investigate Trump
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 04:42 AM
Feb 2017

And his connections to Russia. Russia will not stop.

Hekate

(90,681 posts)
4. Bookmarked. We keep getting DUers who think this is a swell idea, & somehow feasible...
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 04:58 AM
Feb 2017

...like the fantasy of the do-over election. Ever since I learned that Louis Marinelli has an office in Russia, I've known this is another Putinesque joke on the American people. Now Texas.

Freaking wonderful. Putin is literally funding the proposed breakup of the USA.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
5. I suspect that down the road we will find out that Russia had a hand in other things like the UK
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 05:33 AM
Feb 2017

leaving the EU as Russia's goal seems to be to try and destabilize countries and their allies via blackmail and hacking private information for release to groups like wikileaks and to political parties like the Repugnants who were willing accomplices because they wanted to win at any cost.

yardwork

(61,608 posts)
8. Yes, it's all about building Putin's power as he weakens other countries.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 08:30 AM
Feb 2017

Encouraging Brexit - separates Britain from the EU, and causes division in Britain. Now it will be weaker and preoccupied with internal problems. This also weakens the EU and NATO.

Making Trump president of US - now Trump is fighting with all our allies. Internal strife in the US keeps us preoccupied.

France is next.

Meanwhile, Russia invaded Ukraine and seized the Crimean port for an oil line. This is potentially trillions of dollars in profit. That's a LOT of money. There are a lot of people willing to blow up the world to share in TRILLIONS of dollars in oil money.

Obama imposed sanctions on Putin, preventing the oil deal. Trump promises to lift the sanctions.

And what a coincidence - Trump is pulling the US out of climate change agreements and deregulating the oil industry. His Secretary of State was the CEO of Exxon, with many ties to Putin and the oil pipeline in the Ukraine.

It's all about weakening the rest of the world, clearing the way for Putin and Trumpco to make trillions of dollars off oil.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
6. W A K E U P P E O P L E its sponsored distraction...............
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 05:42 AM
Feb 2017

all by the divide and conquer advocates here and abroad.

Chemisse

(30,811 posts)
9. Remember when Trump commented on how big his win would have been without California?
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 08:51 AM
Feb 2017

That was such an odd comment at the time, but it makes sense now that we know Russia is behind it.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
11. CA secession sure would make it easier for Trumputin to complete the coup.
Wed Feb 22, 2017, 10:09 AM
Feb 2017

So listen up, CA! We need you! We love you! Please stay! If necessary, we'll glue the San Andreas fault back together to help you stay.

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