Trump Says His Admin's Deportation Enforcement Is A 'Military Operation'

[DonViejo]

Source: Talking Points Memo



By ESME CRIBB Published FEBRUARY 23, 2017, 11:46 AM EDT

President Donald Trump said on Thursday that his administration's enforcement of its deportation policy is "a military operation."

"All of a sudden for the first time we're getting gang members out, we're getting drug lords out, we're getting really bad dudes out of this country," Trump said during a listening session with manufacturing CEOs. "And it's a military operation because what has been allowed to come into our country."

He said that deportations are taking place "at a rate that nobody's ever seen before, and they're the bad ones."

"You see what's happening at the border," Trump said. "When you see gang violence that you've read about like never before, and all of the things, much of that is people who are here illegally. And they're rough, and they're tough, but they're not tough like our people, so we're getting them out."

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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-says-deportation-enforcement-is-military-operation

[Orrex]

1. So Trump has invaded America?

I guess we need to fight them there before they...


Um.

[Lithos]

2. Posse Commitatus

Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.
(Added Aug. 10, 1956, ch. 1041, § 18(a), 70A Stat. 626; amended Pub. L. 86–70, § 17(d), June 25, 1959, 73 Stat. 144; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1385

[HAB911]

4. did he just hang himself...........again?

[NewJeffCT]

6. I think he did

his people might claim it was an invasion so Posse Comitatus won't apply, but I'm guessing most gang members are already US citizens and that it should be a local law enforcement issue

[33taw]

7. He is clueless that he can't use military on US soil. My guess is he is using

My guess is he is using our "well regulated militia" (the National Guard) to execute the operation.

[Lithos]

8. He can't unless he calls them up

They report to the governor until he federalizes them (calls them up). When he does so, they are considered active military.

L-

[njhoneybadger]

26. tRump is a complete ignoramus

He may be a new species: Ignoramus Pygmaeus(orangutan)

[Brother Buzz]

18. Posse Comitatus is essentially dead. 'W' gutted it

[dchill]

24. Posse Commitatus...

IOKIYAR.

[cstanleytech]

35. His lawyers would probably argue that its legal because he is the commander and chief of the armed

forces as President and the Repugnants in Congress will probably back him up and say that they were ok with it which is why they didnt step in and tell him to back down.

[yuiyoshida]

3. So, they are breaking out the AK-47s and big stuff for this operation?

TANKS MAYBE? I can just see them rolling down Market Street in San Francisco making it look like a Russian Parade... fuckers.


I THINK democracy is dying in this country...

[groundloop]

15. Not so far fetched... 45* wanted tanks and big guns in his inaugural parade

I imagine 45* would have been extremely pleased with this parade.

[yallerdawg]

5. Don't let him tweet?

They shouldn't let him speak!

He's going to deliver a "State of the Union"?

Maybe he could mail it, and Pence could edit while reading...

[Fred Sanders]

9. Another illegal desire, to conduct military operations on domestic soil. SAD lack of understanding.

[roomtomove]

10. HEADLINE: 3.1 mil deported under Obama!

Business Insider February 22, 2017

"During Obama's eight years in office, Immigration and Customs Enforcement deported over 3.1 million unauthorized immigrants. Most unauthorized immigrants who were apprehended inside of the country, not at the border, were convicted criminals, according to DHS.

In 2016, ICE officials removed 240,255 people, 58% of whom had criminal histories. Of the 65,332 people apprehended inside the country, 92% had been convicted of a crime, according to DHS statistics."

[Beartracks]

29. Wow. Repubs can't grasp doing one's job without crowing about it.

They seem to think Obama was handing out snacks at the border as illegals came across by the thousands.

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[Mendocino]

11. When he said

"We're getting really bad dudes out of this country"; do you think he really, really wanted to say Bad Hombres?

[smirkymonkey]

14. And what kind of world leader uses language like "bad dudes"?!

What an effing moron!

Such an embarrassment!

[Amaryllis]

21. It will be the next twitter meme. T shirts. Along with bad hombres.

[christx30]

32. I'm actually happy that he's not starting out

answers to tough questions with "Listen, bro..." I mean, I wouldn't be surprised.
I mean, people that ask him tough questions aren't allowed to ask any more questions, or attend his meetings afterwards.
Even Obama on his absolutely worst day in the history of ever was light years better than Trump is on his best day. But I guess dignity in the highest office of the land is a quaint idea who's time has passed. We'll never have another Kennedy. President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho 2028!
Hell, at this point I'd take GWB back. At least he had a sense of humor.

[haele]

12. The bad ones? A mother of two working as a health assistant?

Working parents picking up their kids from school? College students?
A line cook at the back of a fine dining restaurant working his third job?

These are really bad people...

BTW, I live in the hood, you ignorant M-F'er, and "gang violence" is less than a quarter of what it was during the 1980's. Most undocumented kids and adults I know just want to work and send money to take care of relatives who are having a tough time. Hell, most "gang members" I know are pretty decent so long as you treat them like people

The two times I was robbed/burgled were from neighborhood middle class white teens pretending they were tough. The three times I was either shot at or been near a shooting was due to natural born - at least 2nd generation - Americans.

Undocumented immigrants and refugees keep their heads down and work their asses off. It's bored or disaffected youth that cause all the crime. But that's not the shiney Drumpf wants the country to buy.

Haele

[Crash2Parties]

34. Don't forget that domestic abuse victim

They nabbed her as she left the courtroom. She'd just received a restraining order against her husband. He'd threatened to turn her in if she ever went to the authorities.

Trump enabled her abuser to win, one last time.

[Bobcat]

13. Jade Helm

Where are all the Jade Helm conspiracy theorists? Gov. Abbot? A so-called President just ADMITTED to conducting a military operation on U.S. soil.

[deminks]

16. when you surround yourself with generals, everything IS a military operation

[Doitnow]

17. Looks more like a suicide mission to me---

I refer to this farmer's dilemma, just one example of 45's far-reaching stupidity.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/oct/14/alabama-immigration-law-workers

He is just one farmer. Multiply this by how many farmers there are in this country who depend on the labor provided by Mexicans and what it will do to the price of food. Since food will be so expensive, people will not spend money on a whole lot of things they could otherwise. The farmer's problem will extend to other businesses, etc., etc. They will, in turn be laying off workers because fewer people have less buying power because eating comes first.

Wait---I thought 45 was going to be the great jobs maker because he has such a great brain, he's a business man and so successful.

I really need some work done on my house; thinking of delaying it now.

[Panich52]

19. Jeffersin warned about peace-time standing army...

SCROTUS apparently takes Teddy's "big stick" comment too literally ... and ignores the first part.

[FreeStateDemocrat]

20. We are rapidly becoming a military dictatorship with our own home-grown fuhrer who rules by edict.

Seems like only last year we were a constitutional democracy but the coup has taken place right before our eyes.

I hope I get to witness the overthrow, this is all on the pukes for not being patriotic Americans but facilitators.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

22. Trump thinks unprotected sex is a military operation, making him a veteran.

Trump, Semper FU!

[sinkingfeeling]

23. More total lies from Comrade.

[randr]

25. Watched one of his Generals, not sure which, go to great lengths yesterday

to deny this as "military" in any way at all.
Use of military forces for domestic law enforcement is taboo.

[Fast Walker 52]

30. his DHS secretary Kelly contradicted this

https://www.democracynow.org/2017/2/24/headlines/dhs_secretary_denies_deportations_are_a_military_operation_contradicting_trump

Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly: "And again, listen to this: No—repeat, no—use of military force in immigration operations. None. So, again, I repeat, there will be no use of military forces in immigration."

Whoops

[bettyellen]

27. Disturbing to hear him again refer to human beings as things- "what" has been allowed to come in to

this country". He is deliberately dehumanizing people to make this sound acceptable. Disgusting.

[McCamy Taylor]

28. "Bad dudes" are domestic violence victims who object to being punching bags?????

Trump is probably a wife abuser himself.

[Fast Walker 52]

31. that's what his first wife claimed, yes

[burrowowl]

33. Including a woman in a hospital

waiting for brain cancer surgery!
But no Bad Dudes yet!
Dump makes me

[Mc Mike]

36. He's a 'war president'.

And we're going to see this phenomenom, over and over, where he says one thing, then the top authority on that issue in his admin come out and say the exact opposite.

Polar opposite statements that will never be reconciled, and never have to be. Two track reality.