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IdiotsforPalin

(169 posts)
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 07:30 PM Feb 2017

Betsy DeVoss Brother, The Founder Of Blackwater, Is Setting Up A Private Army For China, SourcesSa

Source: BuzzFeed

Erik Prince — founder of the private military company Blackwater, financial backer of President Donald Trump, brother to the new Education Secretary Betsy DeVos, and frequent Breitbart radio guest of White House power broker Stephen Bannon — has been offering his military expertise to support Chinese government objectives and setting up two Blackwater-style training camps in China, according to sources and his own company statements.
The move could put him at odds with Trump, who has often taken a hard line against China, and could also risk violating US law, which prohibits the export of military services or equipment to China.

Read more: https://www.buzzfeed.com/aramroston/betsy-devoss-brother-is-setting-up-a-private-army-for-china?utm_term=.pfkDrGgxR#.lploQPwvO

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Betsy DeVoss Brother, The Founder Of Blackwater, Is Setting Up A Private Army For China, SourcesSa (Original Post) IdiotsforPalin Feb 2017 OP
Privatizing military for corporate empires - full on muscular fascism. China hasn't been 'communist' blm Feb 2017 #1
K&R red dog 1 Feb 2017 #2
I guess mercenaries gotta be mercenaries! nt Lucky Luciano Feb 2017 #3
Not impressed OldRedneck Feb 2017 #4
Selling them the secrets of how the US protects it's businessmen world-wide might be worth a lot... mr_lebowski Feb 2017 #8
Maybe that's it. I'm thinking, "Why?" Hortensis Feb 2017 #10
The Trump administration seems to full with Traitors.. yuiyoshida Feb 2017 #5
Figures they're related. BainsBane Feb 2017 #6
Money above country. Erik Prince keithbvadu2 Feb 2017 #7
This has been known for a long time now LittleBlue Feb 2017 #9
Why does a country of 1.3 billion people need a private army? Blue_Tires Feb 2017 #11

blm

(113,040 posts)
1. Privatizing military for corporate empires - full on muscular fascism. China hasn't been 'communist'
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 07:34 PM
Feb 2017

for over 2 decades. Chinese industrialists control the government there.

Same has been done here.

 

OldRedneck

(1,397 posts)
4. Not impressed
Sun Feb 26, 2017, 08:13 PM
Feb 2017

The Buzzfeed article indicates Prince is trying to set up training camps in China to train former Chinese military personnel to be corporate security people, apparently to protect Chinese businessmen worldwide.

I'm 72, retired Army infantry officer, Airborne, Ranger, Special Forces. Read, write, speak Chinese -- was one of the first Army personnel in China after the US embassy opened there and have stayed in touch with Chinese military affairs since.

Prince is dreaming. The Chinese are masters at examining foreign equipment and organizations, then, reverse-engineering their own. They may pump him for info, pay him a few $$$, then drop him as soon as they have copied his techniques.

However, I doubt the Chinese need anything Prince has to sell. Their intelligence services are top notch and the security they proivde to Chinese government and corporate officials is quite good already.

Since Blackwater went down the tubes, Prince has been grasping at anything he can find to make a buck.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
8. Selling them the secrets of how the US protects it's businessmen world-wide might be worth a lot...
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 03:21 AM
Feb 2017

Actually.

Sounds like fairly valuable information for if/when they need/want to take out some of our biz leaders ...

Someone might learn a tough first-hand lesson re: just what a bad idea it is to outsource our Nations security to multi-national, private corps (read: mercenaries) with no actual allegiance to the USA ...

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. Maybe that's it. I'm thinking, "Why?"
Tue Feb 28, 2017, 12:35 PM
Feb 2017

China isn't exactly low on manpower, or military power and sophistication, or no doubt on people willing to kill on order.

Then there's the usual, of course--a link to someone with access to 45, which alone might reward a little development.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
9. This has been known for a long time now
Mon Feb 27, 2017, 03:29 PM
Feb 2017

His "security firm" IIRC has been traded on the Hong Kong stock exchange for a while now. Basically it's a firm that trains de facto mercs for gulf states and China.

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