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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 05:05 PM Mar 2017

Ryan: I 'Recognize And Appreciate Concerns' Of Millions Losing Coverage

Source: Talking Points Memo


By ESME CRIBB Published MARCH 13, 2017, 5:01 PM EDT

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) said Monday that nobody will have "the rug pulled out from under them" by a Republican bill to repeal Obamacare, which the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office estimated would leave 24 million more people uninsured over the next 10 years.

I recognize and appreciate concerns about making sure people have access to coverage," Ryan said in a statement. "And, as we have long said, there will be a stable transition so that no one has the rug pulled out from under them."

He highlighted segments of the CBO's report noting that the bill would "provide massive tax relief" and "dramatically reduce the deficit," and said the legislation is "just the first of a three-pronged approach."

"Its important to note that this report does not take into consideration additional steps Congress and the Trump administration are taking that will further lower costs and increase choices," Ryan said.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/paul-ryan-i-recognize-and-appreciate-concerns-millions-losing-health-insurance



McCarthy Says AHCA Will 'Increase Access,' Glosses Over Drop In Coverage

By ESME CRIBB Published MARCH 13, 2017, 5:11 PM EDT

House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) said Monday that the Republican bill to repeal Obamacare "will empower Americans with access, choice and affordability." He avoided any mention of the non-partisan Congressional Budget Office's estimate that the bill would leave millions more people uninsured.

"This report by the CBO confirms that this first phase of health care reform, the American Health Care Act, uses conservative and free-market principles that will empower Americans with access, choice and affordability," McCarthy said in a statement.

The CBO estimated that 14 million would lose coverage by 2018, just in time for the midterm elections, with a total of 24 million people losing their insurance over the next 10 years under House Republicans' bill.

McCarthy did not mention those estimates in his statement. He instead railed against Obamacare, which he claimed "continues to collapse under its own weight," and promised that the next stages of Republican health care legislation "will only further reduce costs and increase access to health care."

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/kevin-mccarthy-says-obamacare-repeal-will-empower-americans-doesnt-mention-loss-of-coverage
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Ryan: I 'Recognize And Appreciate Concerns' Of Millions Losing Coverage (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2017 OP
TAX RELIEF and REDUCE THE DEFICIT are the ONLY things this small man says he's interested in. elleng Mar 2017 #1
He is also interested in lining his pockets and controlling women. redwitch Mar 2017 #11
He's also a pseudo christian, or christian taliban, if one prefers, pangaia Mar 2017 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author pangaia Mar 2017 #34
Yes, I agree. elleng Mar 2017 #52
There's a large portion of the Republican Party that maintain a shit-eating grin devoutly Jonny Appleseed Mar 2017 #57
Good plan? Scarsdale Mar 2017 #71
It certainly won't do both of those things, numbnuts. world wide wally Mar 2017 #19
Au contraire! lark Mar 2017 #26
Yes, they always do, but they MOUTHe the meme. I'll rephrase. elleng Mar 2017 #27
Yes, they give lip service to lots of things they don't actually do. lark Mar 2017 #32
Important figure: Trumpcare gives 1/2 TRILLION dollars tax cuts to the wealthy adigal Mar 2017 #46
For Paul Ryan and the GOP, Trickle-Down OCD is a pre-existing condition alterfurz Mar 2017 #58
What Plan? Where is it? REPUBLICANS DON'T HAVE A PLAN. Sunlei Mar 2017 #2
Ryan is a lying sack of shit elmac Mar 2017 #3
Sanctimonious, self-righteous, insensitive, unconscionable shit head! FreeStateDemocrat Mar 2017 #4
He keeps talking about "additional steps"! WHAT ARE THEY Mr Ryan? Maybe if you'd speak up napi21 Mar 2017 #5
Their totally open secret. lark Mar 2017 #29
Yep. It was never about health care, it was about tax cuts for the wealthy Freethinker65 Mar 2017 #6
I am generally very sedate in my approach, but OldHippieChick Mar 2017 #7
He had no problem feeding at the public trough when it benefitted him spiderpig Mar 2017 #73
Is anyone running against Ryan? murielm99 Mar 2017 #8
I'll be so happy Ccarmona Mar 2017 #9
The uninsured are getting what out of this Paul Lyin' Ryan nonsense? bucolic_frolic Mar 2017 #10
"stable transition" delay until after 2018 elections More_Cowbell Mar 2017 #12
Doesn't anyone realize he is a monster in a cute Eddie Munster disguise? Augiedog Mar 2017 #13
A three-pronged approach? Metro135 Mar 2017 #14
they're not "pulling the rug," they are setting the house on fire UpInArms Mar 2017 #15
I heard a Representative being interviewed - colorado_ufo Mar 2017 #16
If you do not pay into Medicare CountAllVotes Mar 2017 #40
They just slid that little gem right in, didn't they? colorado_ufo Mar 2017 #62
Good catch! CountAllVotes Mar 2017 #64
Repeal of the tax on high-income earners. This gives moonscape Mar 2017 #75
"Recognize and appreciate" - is that the new GOP synonym for GFY? jmowreader Mar 2017 #17
If they lose insurance, the rug is definitely pulled out from under them. Vinca Mar 2017 #18
Bend over, here comes prong #2 n/t hibbing Mar 2017 #20
The Republicans keep saying "access to coverage." This is a red herring, since "access" doesn't Lanius Mar 2017 #21
As Bill Hicks was wont to say, "If you think you are free, try KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #36
I have "access" to the Porsche dealer... 3catwoman3 Mar 2017 #37
End of the day - the PEOPLE have to reject them Cosmocat Mar 2017 #43
What a sc*mbag. Rustyeye77 Mar 2017 #22
I know there's some decent, objective-thinking folks in Wisconsin Plucketeer Mar 2017 #23
They gave us Joseph McCarthy not that long ago. - nt KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #38
50 Shades of Blue: THE FUCK YOU DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 2017 #24
It's as if they're saying bucolic_frolic Mar 2017 #25
Hoover's treasury secretary opined..... TranssexualKaren Mar 2017 #33
They may not have a rug pulled out from under them, but...... pangaia Mar 2017 #28
And somehow this scumbag can sleep at night... Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #31
You can't be troubled by your conscience... 3catwoman3 Mar 2017 #35
Sadly...probably spot on! Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #45
Really Highway61 Mar 2017 #39
Unbelievable. C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #41
Oh PLEASE. Or maybe this poor dear was just absent the day his school's catechism class calimary Mar 2017 #42
The full Ryan quote below: Lucky Luciano Mar 2017 #44
Just s-l-o-w-l-y the rug will be pulled out from under them. You KNOW Ryan is simply speaking about WinkyDink Mar 2017 #47
the bill would "provide massive tax relief" Botany Mar 2017 #48
2017 version moonseller66 Mar 2017 #49
"provide massive tax relief" and "dramatically reduce the deficit," riversedge Mar 2017 #50
"and I don't give a fuck" NastyRiffraff Mar 2017 #51
"Gradual transition" means "the 750% increase will roll out over 3 years"... Beartracks Mar 2017 #53
Liar benld74 Mar 2017 #54
And if you believe a word that sanctimonious fornicate says, I have the following for sale. 47of74 Mar 2017 #55
That's worse than playing stupid. Bradical79 Mar 2017 #56
The true face of Social Darwinism. roamer65 Mar 2017 #59
Oh hell with him. He lies are like diarrhea. SummerSnow Mar 2017 #60
But in reality paleotn Mar 2017 #61
Fuck your "recognition", fuck your "appreciation" and FUCK YOU! hatrack Mar 2017 #63
Some opinions of the shitfuck found in this thread.... pangaia Mar 2017 #65
"I appreciate their concerns, but you have to remember . . . they're not rich. So fuck 'em." tclambert Mar 2017 #66
Gawd what a frightful piece of filth. NT pablo_marmol Mar 2017 #67
Perhaps he could "appreciate it" more if he were to lose his job and then be diagnosed with joet67 Mar 2017 #68
effin' lyers mdbl Mar 2017 #69
I've come to expect them all to lie about facts Lulu KC Mar 2017 #70
The ACA has been "collapsing under its own weight" for eight years now. randome Mar 2017 #72
All I can say is - "my ass you do, Mr. Soon-to-be-EX-Speaker." calimary Mar 2017 #74

elleng

(130,865 posts)
1. TAX RELIEF and REDUCE THE DEFICIT are the ONLY things this small man says he's interested in.
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 05:09 PM
Mar 2017

Last edited Mon Mar 13, 2017, 05:49 PM - Edit history (1)

redwitch

(14,944 posts)
11. He is also interested in lining his pockets and controlling women.
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 05:27 PM
Mar 2017

I really want to slap the smirk off his ugly face!

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
30. He's also a pseudo christian, or christian taliban, if one prefers,
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 05:51 PM
Mar 2017

and THAT is driving a lot of what he does...
maybe most of it....

Response to pangaia (Reply #30)

 

Jonny Appleseed

(960 posts)
57. There's a large portion of the Republican Party that maintain a shit-eating grin devoutly
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 06:57 PM
Mar 2017

Every time they hurt someone they get a visible facial erection.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
71. Good plan?
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 08:58 AM
Mar 2017

Why aren't politicians dropping the plan THEY enjoy, and join this one? Ryan also wants to erase Medicare, give vouchers to seniors. He is too scared to hold town hall meetings and face constituents. He meets with lobbyists though - no problem.

world wide wally

(21,740 posts)
19. It certainly won't do both of those things, numbnuts.
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 05:32 PM
Mar 2017

And we know you don't give a flying fuck about the defiecit when a Reputican is in office.

lark

(23,094 posts)
26. Au contraire!
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 05:47 PM
Mar 2017

R's don't give a damn about the deficit, they always dramatically increase the deficit, ALWAYS! They do care and care bunches about the poor little millionaires having to pay anything to help anyone else. They also care that poor people are getting helped, that won't do either, despite their lip service, they are heartless slime.

lark

(23,094 posts)
32. Yes, they give lip service to lots of things they don't actually do.
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 05:52 PM
Mar 2017

Creating jobs is one great example and keeping us safe is another.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
46. Important figure: Trumpcare gives 1/2 TRILLION dollars tax cuts to the wealthy
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 06:24 PM
Mar 2017

while only providing 300 billion and change in tax CREDITS to the poor and middle class to buy health insurance.
HAHAHA!! What a stinker this bill is!! Do the REPUBS really, really think this will be popular?

2018 will be a landslide for us. Let's get people registered!!!!

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
3. Ryan is a lying sack of shit
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 05:13 PM
Mar 2017

and there is a special place in hell waiting for these fascist pigs.

 

FreeStateDemocrat

(2,654 posts)
4. Sanctimonious, self-righteous, insensitive, unconscionable shit head!
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 05:13 PM
Mar 2017

As long as you say you're sorry, you can go ahead and fuck everybody over.

I wonder how many of the assholes that voted for dummy will lose their health coverage and still deny the reality of this cluster-fuck they helped to create?

napi21

(45,806 posts)
5. He keeps talking about "additional steps"! WHAT ARE THEY Mr Ryan? Maybe if you'd speak up
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 05:14 PM
Mar 2017

on the plans, people wouldn't be so skeptical!

lark

(23,094 posts)
29. Their totally open secret.
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 05:50 PM
Mar 2017

Convert Medicaid and Medicare to vouchers and block grants to states, allow the states to remove all price and increase restrictions as well as coverage mandates so the grants and vouchers cover nothing, raise the age of SS and privatize it. That's the R's wet dream and what they want to change. OK, well that and ending any subsidies quickly! The rest of what he said is just lies.

murielm99

(30,733 posts)
8. Is anyone running against Ryan?
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 05:19 PM
Mar 2017

This might be the time to make a change. He has been voted into office over and over. People up there might finally be sick of him.

bucolic_frolic

(43,133 posts)
10. The uninsured are getting what out of this Paul Lyin' Ryan nonsense?
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 05:27 PM
Mar 2017

Nothing. Not help with paying, not help to find a way to pay, not employment help.

Zilch. Stone cold heartless Paul Ryan goose eggs. ZERO.

Metro135

(359 posts)
14. A three-pronged approach?
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 05:30 PM
Mar 2017

He highlighted segments of the CBO's report noting that the bill is "just the first of a three-pronged approach."

Yeah -- a pitchfork up the ass.

colorado_ufo

(5,733 posts)
16. I heard a Representative being interviewed -
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 05:30 PM
Mar 2017

very nervously, I might add - who ran rapidly down a list of "benefits" of the new whatever-it-is-called replacement act, one of them being the repeal of the MEDICARE payroll tax. I thought that I had misheard him and played back that bit several times on the DVR. Yep, that is what he said.

What do Medicare and the Medicare payroll tax have to do with the ACA? Maybe I am just not fully informed; however, my first thought was, "Is this a way to slip in defunding Medicare, by tacking this onto the replacement of the ACA?"

I had the distinct feeling that this Representative realized that he had slipped up when he said it, because he very rapidly delivered a barrage of words and diverted away from that subject. The interviewer didn't follow up on the statement.

Has anyone else heard this?


CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
40. If you do not pay into Medicare
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 06:06 PM
Mar 2017

When the time comes, you won't have enough quarters paid in to qualify for it. Hence, over time, Medicare becomes obsolete! It would happen sooner rather than later as no doctor will care to take Medicare being it will become insolvent sooner rather than later.

Mission Accomplished PUKES!



CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
64. Good catch!
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 08:03 PM
Mar 2017

They are indeed evil SOBs! They know what they are doing, they are trying to rob the American people out of everything they can grab, PUSSIES INCLUDED!!!

We need to get the word out on this.

It will seem appealing to the uninformed among us as "more money on YOUR paycheck" it will be sold to be. Some more money in your paycheck when you find yourself with no health care being the plan you've been paying into your entire life no longer exists!

The timing is absolutely impeccable as boomers are now retiring!

Loathsome treacherous lot at best!

IMPEACH THESE TREASONOUS LOSERS NOW!



Vinca

(50,267 posts)
18. If they lose insurance, the rug is definitely pulled out from under them.
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 05:31 PM
Mar 2017

What a ridiculous thing for him to say.

Lanius

(599 posts)
21. The Republicans keep saying "access to coverage." This is a red herring, since "access" doesn't
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 05:34 PM
Mar 2017

mean anything if you can't afford or obtain what it is you want or need. Right now, I have "access" to move and buy a house in a new city. But I won't be doing that any time soon because I can't afford to do so. "Access" and "freedom" when it comes to health insurance mean nothing to many Americans who depend on the subsidies in the ACA and will lost them in exchange for measly tax credits.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
36. As Bill Hicks was wont to say, "If you think you are free, try
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 06:00 PM
Mar 2017

to travel somewhere without fucking money!"

3catwoman3

(23,973 posts)
37. I have "access" to the Porsche dealer...
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 06:01 PM
Mar 2017

...in the town where I work. I could walk in any time. Walking out with keys to one of their vehicles will not be happening because I don't have access to enough cash.

Cosmocat

(14,563 posts)
43. End of the day - the PEOPLE have to reject them
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 06:18 PM
Mar 2017

this kind of bold faced FUs ...

it is wearisome when our 1/3 keeps TRYING to do the heavy lifting, their 1/3 rapidly pulls against the better interests and another 1/3 just sits their looking down on us ....

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
23. I know there's some decent, objective-thinking folks in Wisconsin
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 05:36 PM
Mar 2017

But WHY do they keep voting for the likes of this liar and their carbon copy governor??? Has anyone checked the cheese there for lead content?

bucolic_frolic

(43,133 posts)
25. It's as if they're saying
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 05:41 PM
Mar 2017

"Kill of the sick and the poor, there'll be more for the rest of us!"

Ooooops. That IS what they're saying!

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
28. They may not have a rug pulled out from under them, but......
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 05:49 PM
Mar 2017

they sure will lose their health insurance...

Stupid, lying fuck...

Highway61

(2,568 posts)
39. Really
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 06:04 PM
Mar 2017

"Its important to note that this report does not take into consideration additional steps Congress and the Trump administration are taking that will further lower costs and increase choices"

Steps? Such as???????? Tell us NOW Eddy Munster

calimary

(81,220 posts)
42. Oh PLEASE. Or maybe this poor dear was just absent the day his school's catechism class
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 06:14 PM
Mar 2017

was reading Matthew 25:35-45.

That's the one that talks about "the least of these". I want to start hearing all these self-proclaimed/self-congratulatory holier-than-thou "Christianists" quote THIS passage, if they expect me to listen to ANY cockamamie bullshit they're trying to sell - THAT'S ONLY GONNA HURT PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THE POOR!

To review:

35 For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, 36 I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ 37 Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? 38 And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? 39 And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ 40 And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers,[a] you did it to me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ 44 Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ 45 Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+25%3A35-45&version=ESV

Lucky Luciano

(11,253 posts)
44. The full Ryan quote below:
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 06:19 PM
Mar 2017

Ryan: "I Recognize And Appreciate Concerns Of Millions Losing coverage and I simply cannot stop laughing."

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
47. Just s-l-o-w-l-y the rug will be pulled out from under them. You KNOW Ryan is simply speaking about
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 06:27 PM
Mar 2017

speed.

moonseller66

(430 posts)
49. 2017 version
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 06:34 PM
Mar 2017

of the Third Reich's 1930s Eugenics Program.

Hey Ryan,
I'll make this real simple request, simple enough even for you to understand! Show us an example how, say, a family of 4 with just a working father making minimum wage, how exactly he'll be able to provide health care for his family! More people (and reporters) need to ask this question of the Republicans.

You disagree with the CBO's response...show us in black and white exactly how it will work for those who will lose their ACA. It can't be that hard for you to do since it's basically your program and you have all the answers (after 7 years of working on it.)

Put your figures out in public to show how the under and uninsured will benefit.

Betcha can't do it...or won't!

riversedge

(70,192 posts)
50. "provide massive tax relief" and "dramatically reduce the deficit,"
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 06:39 PM
Mar 2017



@speakerRyan's is happy--> "provide massive tax relief" and "dramatically reduce the deficit," NOTHING about health care!!

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
53. "Gradual transition" means "the 750% increase will roll out over 3 years"...
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 06:42 PM
Mar 2017

... or something like that, so that people "don't have the rug pulled out from under them." So it'll be okay to have the rug inched out from under them instead?

===================

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
55. And if you believe a word that sanctimonious fornicate says, I have the following for sale.
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 06:50 PM
Mar 2017

This...



This...



This too...



And this...



I do cash or pay pal

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
56. That's worse than playing stupid.
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 06:56 PM
Mar 2017

He's saying that he's aware that he's going to fuck over millions of people, and decided to move ahead anyway.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
65. Some opinions of the shitfuck found in this thread....
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 09:04 PM
Mar 2017


Sanctimonious
self-righteous
insensitive,
unconscionable
shit head!
Dummy
lying sack of shit
heartless slime
numbnuts
pseudo christian
christian taliban
small man
Mr Ryan
FUCKWAD
Paul Lyin' Ryan
Stone cold heartless
monster
sc*mbag
liar
shitfuck

keep up the good work...


joet67

(624 posts)
68. Perhaps he could "appreciate it" more if he were to lose his job and then be diagnosed with
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 01:02 AM
Mar 2017

a catastrophic disease, as I did in a single day. Other than that, he's just spewing words out of his pie-hole. How he gets elected is beyond me.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
69. effin' lyers
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 06:40 AM
Mar 2017

I am tired of the word access. If you can't afford it, you don't have access. period. Assholes!

Lulu KC

(2,565 posts)
70. I've come to expect them all to lie about facts
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 08:55 AM
Mar 2017

but when they lie about feelings, I scream BULLSHIT. Pardon my French.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
72. The ACA has been "collapsing under its own weight" for eight years now.
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 09:37 AM
Mar 2017

Funny thing is, it appears to be pretty healthy still.
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