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titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 08:41 AM Mar 2017

U.S. Retail Sales in February Post Smallest Gain in Six Month

Source: Bloomberg News

U.S. retail sales in February posted the smallest gain in six months, indicating a tempering of the consumer spending that’s been carrying the economy.

Purchases rose 0.1 percent, matching the Bloomberg survey median estimate, after a 0.6 percent increase in the prior month that was stronger than previously reported, Commerce Department figures showed Wednesday. Just four of the 13 major retail categories saw gains in February sales.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-15/u-s-retail-sales-in-february-post-smallest-gain-in-six-months



Uh oh. Maybe the tax thing last night was a distraction from really shitty retail figures this morning. Didn't notice any tweets on this yet this morning.
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U.S. Retail Sales in February Post Smallest Gain in Six Month (Original Post) titaniumsalute Mar 2017 OP
Fake News! Fake Numbers! Friend or Foe Mar 2017 #1
Now we know why 45 sent his 2005 two-page tax summary to Johnston and Rachel. nikibatts Mar 2017 #2
Now, now everybody, give 45 a break. bearssoapbox Mar 2017 #3
bearssoapbox, some Nausea advice -- ColemanMaskell Mar 2017 #8
Or... bearssoapbox Mar 2017 #11
The Fear Factor at work. sinkingfeeling Mar 2017 #4
Thank you Trump. keithbvadu2 Mar 2017 #5
and now comes the trump effect. nt Javaman Mar 2017 #6
I'm not buying the "everyone orders online"... Xolodno Mar 2017 #7
(For the future) Don't forget the impending rate hikes by the Fed, ColemanMaskell Mar 2017 #9
Especially for stores that sell major appliances that most people don't order online wishstar Mar 2017 #10
who wants to buy anything pfitz59 Mar 2017 #12
 

nikibatts

(2,198 posts)
2. Now we know why 45 sent his 2005 two-page tax summary to Johnston and Rachel.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 08:50 AM
Mar 2017

Distraction from important news.

bearssoapbox

(1,408 posts)
3. Now, now everybody, give 45 a break.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:18 AM
Mar 2017

I'm sure that Trumplethinskin will take the responsibility for these numbers just like he took credit for the jobs numbers increase.

After all, as we've seen before, the buck stops with him.

Damn, even being sarcastic, I could hardly type the last sentence without throwing up a little.

ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
8. bearssoapbox, some Nausea advice --
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 12:04 PM
Mar 2017

No, nausea is not a new pet name for il Trompe.
This is about your mentioned urge to "throw up a little".
Anything like that, rephrase it as a question. Then you aren't actually stating it (even sarcastically).
For example:

Doesn't he always say the buck stops with him?
After all, we've heard him say before that the buck stops with him.
Doesn't the buck stop with him?

That should reduce the queasiness because the truth-telling part of your mind shouldn't nudge you as much for seemingly stating a falsehood in the spirit of sarcasm.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
7. I'm not buying the "everyone orders online"...
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 11:18 AM
Mar 2017

...spiel for the recent wave's of retail store closures. It's never one factor alone, because if it was, they would be able to adjust to it quickly. Its usually several factors in a complicated web. If I were to peg it:

1. Retail Store Over-saturation: In the drive for sales and you're analysts say " the more stores we have the more sales"....companies tend to expand too much.

2. Niche Stores with Niche Markets: Sometimes, those niche areas go out of style and its very difficult to remake your image.

3. Poor Management: Sears. nuff said.

4. Online sales: Yes that has an impact in your in-store sales. But you can find out where various populaces are buying online and where they are not. Where one store can serve the market whereas two or more is not needed.

5. Product offerings: If you're products aren't that interesting, don't expect people to buy them.

6. Income levels, if purchasing power has dropped in an area, guess what, so is their ability to purchase your products. Often companies love bury their head in the sand and say "oh this won't effect us because...<insert lame reason>"

7. Upcoming Recession. And this doesn't have to be national, it can be regional or even local.

ColemanMaskell

(783 posts)
9. (For the future) Don't forget the impending rate hikes by the Fed,
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 12:25 PM
Mar 2017

and Fed rate hikes can tend to increase the interest rate on credit cards, like other variable-rate debt. In fact they're usually intended to tighten lending and hence reduce the money supply (to reduce inflation). The Fed has stated they expect to raise rates two or three times this year. That's a big dose of belt tightening.

Plus the uncertainty caused by all the political theater. As people feel more insecure they tend to spend less, except for survivalist gear and supplies of course.

Or maybe some of them are saving up to buy medical insurance or pay future medical bills -- you know, skipping that iphone as Representative Chutzpah suggested -- it's possible. If so, they'll be disappointed when they compare the costs, but it's possible some people took his word seriously. Okay, that was too recent to affect the numbers yet, and it doesn't seem like there could be many like that anyway -- I just thought it was a funny way to point out that if the current gov't does manage to cut gov't medical care subsidies, the higher personal medical expenditures will have an adverse effect on their other (consumer) spending, and, yes, your point 7, recession, is a possible result. When you combine large increases in medical spending with interest rate hikes, it seems almost an inevitability. But then I'm not an economist. Anyway the Trump-Ryan-Don't-Care bill hopefully probably won't pass.

That all applies to predicted problems, not to the store closings and such that have already happened. So, yeah, think it looks bad? It can get worse. Much worse.

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
10. Especially for stores that sell major appliances that most people don't order online
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 12:56 PM
Mar 2017

I live in a growing developing prosperous area with very low unemployment, but business closures seem to indicate a saturation and downturn beginning, as perhaps people are tapped out by high housing costs coupled with low wage growth while business growth has reached its peak for now.

pfitz59

(10,362 posts)
12. who wants to buy anything
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 04:05 AM
Mar 2017

when their lives and livelihoods are at risk.... the turmoil of Trump's rise to power has thrown established parameters out the window. the future is nebulous and foundation of both government and economy shaken. When the shadow President of the US publicly proclaims his aim is to destry government, some fok take that as a warning. time to hunker down...

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