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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 07:26 PM Mar 2017

Ryan: Health care plan must change to pass the House

Source: The Washington Post



By Mike DeBonis, Elise Viebeck and David Weigel March 15 at 7:21 PM

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan said Wednesday that his health care proposal must change to pass the House, marking a significant retreat from his earlier position that the carefully crafted legislation would fail if altered.

The shift came after a private meeting of House Republicans from which Ryan (R-Wis.) emerged to tell reporters that his proposal to revise the Affordable Care Act would “incorporate feedback” from the rank-and-file. Ryan attributed the change of strategy to the impact of an analysis issued Monday by the Congressional Budget Office. Among other details that prompted a fresh round of criticism of the proposal was a projection that 14 million fewer Americans would be insured after one year under the Republican plan.

Ryan backed away on Wednesday from his previous rhetoric of calling the measure’s fate a “binary choice” for Republican lawmakers.

“Now that we have our score ... we can make some necessary improvements and refinements to the bill,” he said, referring to the CBO’s estimate of the impact on the number of those covered by health insurance and what the GOP proposal would cost.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/speaker-paul-ryan-doubles-down-on-gop-health-care-plan-amid-opposition/2017/03/15/872c4f3c-0974-11e7-93dc-00f9bdd74ed1_story.html?pushid=breaking-news_1489620287&tid=notifi_push_breaking-news&utm_term=.ce1f1fb9eae6

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Ryan: Health care plan must change to pass the House (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2017 OP
How's he going to appease the Tea Nuts while reducing the coverage losses? nt geek tragedy Mar 2017 #1
Knowing Ryan he will probably double down and try to pass it so it cuts cstanleytech Mar 2017 #2
It won't pass the Senate Trenzalore Mar 2017 #8
My Grandpa was a dairy farmer. He had a saying that is appropriate here. LOL Lib Mar 2017 #3
HAHAHAHAHA Skittles Mar 2017 #4
They are screwed Trenzalore Mar 2017 #5
Nah gibraltar72 Mar 2017 #6
Free health care for the Job Creators (remember them?) bucolic_frolic Mar 2017 #7
Didn't he say this earlier today? George II Mar 2017 #9
Who knew healthcare was so hard? mtngirl47 Mar 2017 #10
just change it to single payer elmac Mar 2017 #11
I agree. Many do. Equinox Moon Mar 2017 #12
In a world with no Special Interests and corrupt politicians (fantasy) Dustlawyer Mar 2017 #13
He's dead Jim... Blue Idaho Mar 2017 #14
Didn't this sociopathic loser just say no changes to his precious? Marthe48 Mar 2017 #15
Who is more sociopathic, Ryan or ones who don't want to pass it because it doesn't make it even xor Mar 2017 #18
THat's a tough question Marthe48 Mar 2017 #21
Leave it the way it is Eddie! CountAllVotes Mar 2017 #16
They have been working for seven years and this pile of shit is all they have to show for it? Thor_MN Mar 2017 #17
Fantasy: the media hammers them on this very point. They all ran on it and they completely failed. JudyM Mar 2017 #23
Trump will get a higher subsidy here than I will. No means test. Midnight Writer Mar 2017 #19
they will leave everything the way it is and present it as the repuke plan Javaman Mar 2017 #20
"not nearly enough profit or certain death in current version." librechik Mar 2017 #22
Republicans CRAFTED IN TWO DAYS "PLAN", Even God took a week! ACA took SEVEN YEARS. Sunlei Mar 2017 #24
It passed the Budget Committee overnight LeftInTX Mar 2017 #25
Or they can just throw up their hands and repeal the ACA... regnaD kciN Mar 2017 #26
Single payer . Medicare for all . Problem solved for all , except the the sociopaths and Banksters geretogo Mar 2017 #27
Ryan will return to "We'll vote to repeal this week and vote later on the replacement". no_hypocrisy Mar 2017 #28

cstanleytech

(26,236 posts)
2. Knowing Ryan he will probably double down and try to pass it so it cuts
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 07:33 PM
Mar 2017

it all because it seems most of the more vocal Repugnants are pissed because it still provides "some" help for some people and those sociopaths dont want anyone thats not wealthy to get any help.

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
8. It won't pass the Senate
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 07:44 PM
Mar 2017

If the house conservatives get their hands on it, it is DOA in the Senate. It is why Ryan tried the take it or leave it approach to begin with.

LOL Lib

(1,462 posts)
3. My Grandpa was a dairy farmer. He had a saying that is appropriate here.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 07:35 PM
Mar 2017

Paul Ryan has to re-lick his calf. This means go back and redo his shitty health care plan.

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
5. They are screwed
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 07:40 PM
Mar 2017

The only way they can pass it is by appeasing the hard right. If it goes to the Senate in that state it is dead on arrival.

Senators have to run state wide campaigns and aren't in the luxury of creative districts. When you have Tom Cotton of all people worried about people losing care you know they are in trouble.

Either way for democrats its good news. If they can pass anything they will have to appease the hard right which accelerates people losing coverage to a mid-term year instead of putting it off 4-5 years. I say this hoping nobody loses coverage and this goes down in flames but I'd prefer they accelerate it if they are going to pass it so that they lose bigly in 2018.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
13. In a world with no Special Interests and corrupt politicians (fantasy)
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:53 PM
Mar 2017

they could look at what is working in other countries and what health care truly costs per capita. We all would be pleasantly to surprised to say the least at how good and affordable it could be compared to the racket it has become!

I hope these butt wipes have nightmares for what they plan on doing to us. Some have zero conscience, but some will be haunted later! They will deserve every bit of it and more!

Blue Idaho

(5,038 posts)
14. He's dead Jim...
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 10:01 PM
Mar 2017

Even Dr. McCoy can't reserect this POS wealth distribution stunt hiding as a health care bill. Now watch them let the ACA crash from neglect. Their plan is to blame Democrats for everything - but they seem to have forgotten how that all worked out when they shut the government down. These are not smart people.

Marthe48

(16,898 posts)
15. Didn't this sociopathic loser just say no changes to his precious?
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 10:15 PM
Mar 2017

None of these idiots understand about TIVO. or other recording capabilities.

I call him sociopath, because even though he has been reviled for the last week, he shows absolutely no change in expression. He can't possibly possess a soul.

xor

(1,204 posts)
18. Who is more sociopathic, Ryan or ones who don't want to pass it because it doesn't make it even
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 11:44 PM
Mar 2017

harder for many poor to middle-class to get real health care? We have some pretty twisted people in this country.

Marthe48

(16,898 posts)
21. THat's a tough question
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 11:57 AM
Mar 2017

my answer has to be: all of them. But Ryan is one of the dead-eyed wonders that get more coverage.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
17. They have been working for seven years and this pile of shit is all they have to show for it?
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 10:44 PM
Mar 2017

If my work product were 7 years overdue and an unworkable piece of crap, I wouldn't have a job...

JudyM

(29,192 posts)
23. Fantasy: the media hammers them on this very point. They all ran on it and they completely failed.
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 12:32 PM
Mar 2017

Javaman

(62,500 posts)
20. they will leave everything the way it is and present it as the repuke plan
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 08:59 AM
Mar 2017

calling it trumpcare.

all the repuke trench workers will hail it as a brilliant "overhaul", calling it much better than Obamacare! LOL

that will happen.

LeftInTX

(25,126 posts)
25. It passed the Budget Committee overnight
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 02:35 PM
Mar 2017

I don't think they are going to make changes. 3 Rs voted "no".
There was another thread.on DU on who is voting "no".

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
26. Or they can just throw up their hands and repeal the ACA...
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 02:51 PM
Mar 2017

...with a replacement to come in the indefinite future.

geretogo

(1,281 posts)
27. Single payer . Medicare for all . Problem solved for all , except the the sociopaths and Banksters
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 04:41 PM
Mar 2017

on Wall Street .

no_hypocrisy

(46,020 posts)
28. Ryan will return to "We'll vote to repeal this week and vote later on the replacement".
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 06:30 PM
Mar 2017

He can get the votes for a repeal while lying about replacing the ACA.

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