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laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 11:55 PM Mar 2017

Exxon says it lost emails from Tillersons alias account

Source: New York Post

Exxon Mobil admitted in Manhattan Supreme Court Wednesday that it lost a year’s worth of emails from the alias account used by Secretary of State Rex Tillerson when he was the company’s CEO.

Tillerson — whose middle name is Wayne and went by the alias “Wayne Tracker” in the sensitive emails to company board members — is among those being investigated by ​New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman for ​allegedly ​deceiving investors about Exxon’s scientific research on climate-change impact.


Judge Barry Ostrager ordered Exxon to deliver sworn statements and records from its staffers responsible for monitoring the “Wayne Tracker” emails, so state investigators could determine how they were lost.

He suggested both sides try to work out their differences about the missing emails, but also ordered the energy giant to comply by March 31 with Schneiderman’s 16-month old subpoena for records.

Read more: http://nypost.com/2017/03/22/exxon-says-it-lost-emails-from-tillersons-alias-account/



It looks like Tillerson & Exxon have some splain'n to do.
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Exxon says it lost emails from Tillersons alias account (Original Post) laserhaas Mar 2017 OP
Lock him up. kairos12 Mar 2017 #1
It would be wonderful to see justice done laserhaas Mar 2017 #3
DAMN right! nt MADem Mar 2017 #17
LOL - cute gif - of kitty taking down the x laserhaas Mar 2017 #37
That's been in my sig line for over a decade, now! Time flies....! nt MADem Mar 2017 #110
Looks like "God isn't done with him yet"... SledDriver Mar 2017 #77
+1 Blue_Tires Mar 2017 #71
No problem. Rex can ask Russia to hand them over Freethinker65 Mar 2017 #2
or perhaps... 2naSalit Mar 2017 #4
Hey.. shouldn't that 2nd pic of yours - say laserhaas Mar 2017 #10
The 2naSalit Mar 2017 #16
Understand.... laserhaas Mar 2017 #38
If only! 2naSalit Mar 2017 #80
You have a great career there laserhaas Mar 2017 #85
Some days... 2naSalit Mar 2017 #92
Cute. laserhaas Mar 2017 #6
When a corporation says they "lost" something... C Moon Mar 2017 #53
Too bad a corporation can't take a lie detector test. n/t diva77 Mar 2017 #54
According to Mitt - they ARE people laserhaas Mar 2017 #58
I'm glad the Mitt years are over. Trump is worse, but I'm so glad Obama beat that one. C Moon Mar 2017 #63
I'm still going to find a way to give Mitt laserhaas Mar 2017 #64
Concur laserhaas Mar 2017 #56
How convenient....nt 2naSalit Mar 2017 #5
Exactly! laserhaas Mar 2017 #8
I'll bet they NEVER lost any billing records. dchill Mar 2017 #7
Ha Ha ..... good one laserhaas Mar 2017 #9
OMG, lost emails? Permanut Mar 2017 #11
Ask Putin To Find Them RainAndMoreRain Mar 2017 #32
Awful convenient - that it is an entire years worth laserhaas Mar 2017 #39
no kidding treestar Mar 2017 #75
What a coincidence madaboutharry Mar 2017 #12
Suddenly I 2naSalit Mar 2017 #18
The GOP made Obama's tenure, as miserable as they could, selfishly laserhaas Mar 2017 #40
Absolutely... 2naSalit Mar 2017 #81
His voters are laserhaas Mar 2017 #87
I know 2naSalit Mar 2017 #93
Awwwhhh {{{{{{ 2baSalit }}}}} laserhaas Mar 2017 #94
Thanks... 2naSalit Mar 2017 #95
Woo Hoo laserhaas Mar 2017 #96
Oh, I've got 2naSalit Mar 2017 #113
What would a good prosecutor make of that? C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #13
We expect a settlement will be coming soon laserhaas Mar 2017 #45
A good prosecutor should be skeptical of those claims and be working on... PoliticAverse Mar 2017 #74
"Lost emails".....damn, I remember I time when the country was losing its mind over "emails" Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #14
Poor Rex - his cushy job now gone away laserhaas Mar 2017 #46
But how could there be "hell to pay" Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #68
I'm fixin to hit Lewis Black-level apoplexy here... pnwest Mar 2017 #15
+1 times 10000000000000000000000000000000000000. 2naSalit Mar 2017 #19
As only Lewis Black can put it madokie Mar 2017 #27
Love that guy laserhaas Mar 2017 #41
LOL, just read that back in Lewis Black's voice, pnwest Mar 2017 #50
Seize their server. JudyM Mar 2017 #114
Yup laserhaas Mar 2017 #115
In the words of my old pop music radio station... spiderpig Mar 2017 #20
And we've just got started. laserhaas Mar 2017 #42
This means they are... zentrum Mar 2017 #21
Agree. ... Smoke everywhere laserhaas Mar 2017 #22
Exactly. zentrum Mar 2017 #23
Republicans running around trying to turn the alarm off. meadowlander Mar 2017 #59
Which one? laserhaas Mar 2017 #65
There is an old expression: I don't know whether to sh*t or wind my watch. Grammy23 Mar 2017 #97
Too funny laserhaas Mar 2017 #98
In a word...YES! Grammy23 Mar 2017 #100
Nice to see good..prevail...for once laserhaas Mar 2017 #104
Corporate servers lose years' worth of stuff all the time dalton99a Mar 2017 #24
Actually, if you were to add "when being investigated" laserhaas Mar 2017 #43
Of COURSE It Has Grizzled Ol Granddad Mar 2017 #25
Do they have virtual dogs laserhaas Mar 2017 #47
No, No. No ProfessorGAC Mar 2017 #70
Did he follow the smell to the raid and array laserhaas Mar 2017 #86
lock him up jesskirablue42 Mar 2017 #26
Any first line forensics, will nail this crap laserhaas Mar 2017 #44
Rex said he didn't want the job -so he should just quit laserhaas Mar 2017 #28
More like deleted on purpose. nt cstanleytech Mar 2017 #29
I don't see why. The emails were about climate change yeoman6987 Mar 2017 #78
How convenient. There is no major company's IT department that doesn't backup the execs data.... iluvtennis Mar 2017 #30
Exactly. -- redundant redundancy - is the corporate key laserhaas Mar 2017 #48
His wife told them to erase the flamingdem Mar 2017 #31
Imagine it was the maid, who made it happen laserhaas Mar 2017 #51
I hope mainstream media will interview computer forensic experts who know how to recover lost emails diva77 Mar 2017 #33
They Are Too Busy Preparing For The Next Trump Tweet RainAndMoreRain Mar 2017 #35
Ha Ha - that would be REAL funny laserhaas Mar 2017 #49
Small Companies Like Exxon Never Back Up Email Servers RainAndMoreRain Mar 2017 #34
Correct. At eToys we had 3 back up sites laserhaas Mar 2017 #36
Tillerson is one of the scummiest of the Kremlin Klan. SunSeeker Mar 2017 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author Nwgirl503 Mar 2017 #55
Hmmmm laserhaas Mar 2017 #60
I might have been imbibing in some smokey smoke last night (it's legal here!!!) Nwgirl503 Mar 2017 #109
Wayne Tracker references dropping off google search dated 2014-2015, only 48 left today. Sunlei Mar 2017 #57
thanks for this pathway laserhaas Mar 2017 #61
I'll bet Russia has them..... TeamPooka Mar 2017 #62
Yes, and so does Exxon. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2017 #76
That would make for a lot of editing nolabels Mar 2017 #79
You do know standard MOP is to pull array and raid laserhaas Mar 2017 #88
no doubt that Trey Gowdy and Jason Jaffitz will hold hearings on the lost emails Botany Mar 2017 #66
how CONveeeeenient. pansypoo53219 Mar 2017 #67
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2017 #69
Isn't that special jpak Mar 2017 #72
That breaking The Sarbanes-Oxley Act neohippie Mar 2017 #73
We've witness so much disregard of SarOx laserhaas Mar 2017 #91
I wonder if there's any chance FakeNoose Mar 2017 #82
:) laserhaas Mar 2017 #89
Notably missing were all emails sent to the address ShirtlessVlad@kremlin.ru. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2017 #83
Ah ha ha laserhaas Mar 2017 #84
When people like Tillerson break the law the worst they ever face milestogo Mar 2017 #90
gee, now THERE is a big surprise-- tilly's lost emails. niyad Mar 2017 #99
Did the dog eat them? C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #101
fbi enid602 Mar 2017 #102
Possible Comey has his own personal vault laserhaas Mar 2017 #105
vault enid602 Mar 2017 #107
You bahhhddd laserhaas Mar 2017 #108
Just a silly, silly mistake.... defacto7 Mar 2017 #103
Ha Ha...with 83,000 employees laserhaas Mar 2017 #106
Was bleach involved? GulfCoast66 Mar 2017 #111
Does the ghost of Rose Mary Woods Cadfael Mar 2017 #112

2naSalit

(86,572 posts)
16. The
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 12:16 AM
Mar 2017

Sh*tgibbon image? Nah, I like that one the most, just like it is.

To be honest, I have my sig lines turned off (they eat data and mine is limited) so I forget they are there.

2naSalit

(86,572 posts)
80. If only!
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 11:11 AM
Mar 2017

I can hardly wait for the the STHTF and am starting to relish the thought of seeing the resulting mess simply because it would indicate that the reparation will have begun.

As a young friend would say, "This is making me cuckoopotomous!"

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
6. Cute.
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 12:03 AM
Mar 2017

This - convenience - of vanishing emails, doesn't seem to realize, worse will happen

if they are not "found"

Permanut

(5,602 posts)
11. OMG, lost emails?
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 12:10 AM
Mar 2017

This is really serious. I'm sure the Republicans will convene several committees to get to the bottom of this, as they have done with other email issues. They will probably interview hundreds of witnesses and review thousands of pages of documents, in a sincere effort to find the truth.

A year's worth of emails? Why, that could be thousands, ten thousand, twenty thousand, thirty thousand emails !!1!!! This is hugh!

2naSalit

(86,572 posts)
18. Suddenly I
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 12:17 AM
Mar 2017

smell that treason in the air and someone who deserves the Benghazi investigation treatment.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
40. The GOP made Obama's tenure, as miserable as they could, selfishly
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 01:37 AM
Mar 2017

In these instances, ther's real meat to be fried

2naSalit

(86,572 posts)
95. Thanks...
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 12:07 PM
Mar 2017

the good part is that I have to go somewhere to encounter them since I live so far out of town!

2naSalit

(86,572 posts)
113. Oh, I've got
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 09:41 PM
Mar 2017

purple mountain majesty in all directions, the amber waves of grain are about an hour's drive from here... we have cows, horses and sheep. I happen to live on Road-Kill Lane.

C_U_L8R

(45,000 posts)
13. What would a good prosecutor make of that?
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 12:13 AM
Mar 2017

One might naturally percieve a hamfisted coverup
and seek an order for their servers and drive to be
scoured by some good data forensic experts.
Bet they can find Rex's very suspicious alt-ego emails.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
74. A good prosecutor should be skeptical of those claims and be working on...
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 09:50 AM
Mar 2017

getting some subpoenas and quizzing people in the IT department.

pnwest

(3,266 posts)
15. I'm fixin to hit Lewis Black-level apoplexy here...
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 12:15 AM
Mar 2017

...how the fuck do you "lose" emails. What a bunch of horseshit. Emails don't get "lost", they get fucking deleted. Nobody buys that crap anymore, we all know how God damn email works by now. FUCK! It's insulting how stupid they think we are!

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
22. Agree. ... Smoke everywhere
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 12:27 AM
Mar 2017

and the fire brigade is standing by, watching, trying to make an executive decision

on what - not - to do....

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
97. There is an old expression: I don't know whether to sh*t or wind my watch.
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 12:43 PM
Mar 2017

I think that pretty much covers where the Repubs and Team tRump are right now. Oh, to be a fly on the wall with really, really big eyes and ears!

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
100. In a word...YES!
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 02:48 PM
Mar 2017

I would pay to see that lying SOB in full meltdown, begging for his minions to get him cleared. I want to see him squirm and wail. He has caused so much misery and turmoil in this country...indeed the world. Time for Karma to visit. I hear she's a bitch.

ProfessorGAC

(65,006 posts)
70. No, No. No
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 08:50 AM
Mar 2017

An actual dog. A really, really, really big dog ate the entire server system. What? You don't believe me?!?!?

 

jesskirablue42

(50 posts)
26. lock him up
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 12:44 AM
Mar 2017

If they can hack a dem convention like they did with wikileaks, they should be able to hack into and get "missing" emails. And the put him in prison.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
44. Any first line forensics, will nail this crap
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 01:41 AM
Mar 2017

Judge is asking them to work it out;
but - given the nature - I doubt it will be.

Subpoena may be on the way - YaY

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
28. Rex said he didn't want the job -so he should just quit
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 12:47 AM
Mar 2017

But, if he does, that's not going to stop the NYAG's efforts

and inside the Administration, Rex has a better chance, to protect Exxon and himself, from investigation doom

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
78. I don't see why. The emails were about climate change
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 10:43 AM
Mar 2017

Heck half the country would agree to whatever was in the emails. What's the worst that would happen? Exxon sued like the tobacco industry? Seems like a weak reason to destroy the emails.

iluvtennis

(19,851 posts)
30. How convenient. There is no major company's IT department that doesn't backup the execs data....
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 12:59 AM
Mar 2017

...horse pucky the emails are lost.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
48. Exactly. -- redundant redundancy - is the corporate key
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 01:45 AM
Mar 2017

without it - nightmares would sprout up - everywhere.


OOPs

 

RainAndMoreRain

(54 posts)
35. They Are Too Busy Preparing For The Next Trump Tweet
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 01:28 AM
Mar 2017

To do their jobs.

You know, reporting on obstruction of justice and stuff.

 

RainAndMoreRain

(54 posts)
34. Small Companies Like Exxon Never Back Up Email Servers
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 01:27 AM
Mar 2017

Never ever.

I say lock up the board of directors and top executives until they find the emails.

Oh, I forgot. They are corporate criminals, and there is no such thing as corporate crime.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
36. Correct. At eToys we had 3 back up sites
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 01:33 AM
Mar 2017

And we only had 1000 employees for 3 primary locations

Exxon has over 80,000, and dozens of primary locations, all over the world

Response to laserhaas (Original post)

Nwgirl503

(406 posts)
109. I might have been imbibing in some smokey smoke last night (it's legal here!!!)
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 05:40 PM
Mar 2017

I try to not post when under the influence cause I don't make much sense. Ha ha!

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
57. Wayne Tracker references dropping off google search dated 2014-2015, only 48 left today.
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 02:25 AM
Mar 2017
Not one person kept a communication from the “Wayne Tracker” Tillersons secret email account?

Not one Republican will stand up to this shit? Even one of you Republicans 'outside' the corrupt loop & ashamed, angry enough about the corruption today- to speak up?


This keeps showing up in image, for years-old searches, related to that name, not sure why or if it's relevant or nothing.

http://twpicture.com/15720918/stapf

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
79. That would make for a lot of editing
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 10:56 AM
Mar 2017

Probably some kind of weekly backup going on for a whole lot of stuff that is important for them so they would really have a hard time with it.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
88. You do know standard MOP is to pull array and raid
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 11:38 AM
Mar 2017

Individual drives and put in fireproof safes

on a daily, weekly basis?

Response to laserhaas (Original post)

neohippie

(1,142 posts)
73. That breaking The Sarbanes-Oxley Act
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 09:38 AM
Mar 2017

The Sarbanes-Oxley Act, also known as SOX, is governed by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) and enacts legislation that not only affects the financial side of corporations but also mandates rules for document retention and storage of electronic records including email.
It is within Section 802 that the commission address document tampering, length of document retention and describes the types of documents that must be retained and the consequences of non compliance. Sarbanes Oxley email retention policy guidelines are stated in in Sec 802(a)(1) and 802(a)(2) .

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
82. I wonder if there's any chance
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 11:26 AM
Mar 2017

... he sent an email to Anthony Wiener? That would sure make things easy.

Or maybe another celebrity who would be cooperating with the investigation.
So the Feds can take a look at that, yes? I mean with a warrant, of course.



milestogo

(16,829 posts)
90. When people like Tillerson break the law the worst they ever face
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 11:40 AM
Mar 2017

is a fine, which is so small compared to their wealth that they don't even notice it.

C_U_L8R

(45,000 posts)
101. Did the dog eat them?
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 02:58 PM
Mar 2017

In these days of cloud computing and multiple redundant servers
(especially at large public corporations like Exxon) this has the
smell of bullshit all over it. Haul in the IT staff and start scouring
the servers.... for every sent mail there's also at least one recipient.
It is impossible that they were all lost.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
103. Just a silly, silly mistake....
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 03:24 PM
Mar 2017

Confounded, bad, bad Internets. Happens to anyone... gees... it's only teeny weeny little Exxon.

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