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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:46 PM Mar 2017

Speaker Paul Ryan Admits Defeat: 'Obamacare For The Foreseeable Future'

Source: Talking Points Memo



By MATT SHUHAM Published MARCH 24, 2017, 4:38 PM EDT

House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) on Friday laid blame for the failure of a bill to repeal and replace Obamacare on Republican members of the House, and said he would move on to other issues that “people have even more agreement on.”

“You have all heard me say this before, moving from an opposition party to a governing party comes with growing pains,” Ryan said at the beginning of a press briefing. “And, well, we're feeling those growing pains today.”

Noting that “the President gave his all in this effort,” Ryan instead pinned blame on the bill’s failure on the members of his own House Republican caucus. “There is a block of no votes that we had, that is why this didn't pass,” he said, after one reporter asked him if he blamed the conservative House Freedom Caucus for obstructing the bill.

“They were sufficient number of votes that prevented it from passing and they didn't change their votes,” he continued. “We were close. Some of the members of that caucus were voting with us, but not enough were. And therefore – and I met with their chairman earlier today, and he made it clear to me that the votes weren't going to be there from their team. And that was sufficient to provide the balance to not have this bill pass.”



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Speaker Paul Ryan Admits Defeat: 'Obamacare For The Foreseeable Future' (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2017 OP
Oooooh this is going to require one huge "Touch Myself" Rally Thomas Hurt Mar 2017 #1
Oh, of course it wasn't *his*fault. He did everything perfectly. Ryan screwed up. Kablooie Mar 2017 #13
To Paul Ryan - Thanks, now STFU! FakeNoose Mar 2017 #2
Hahaha! Kimchijeon Mar 2017 #3
So, the Kochs wouldn't deal. We know that because Hortensis Mar 2017 #4
That's very interesting, I'm reading disalitervisum Mar 2017 #7
That seems likely enough, so far as it goes. Hortensis Mar 2017 #12
They waited, what, 7 years? sakabatou Mar 2017 #5
Boehner played hardball bucolic_frolic Mar 2017 #6
So the engineered tea party "grassroots" movement killed their dastardly plans. Perfectly poetic. JudyM Mar 2017 #8
they killed this vote elmac Mar 2017 #9
I suspect they will go after the sources of funding for Obamacare instead and kneecap it that way cstanleytech Mar 2017 #10
It's not Obamacare anymore.... It is Trumpcare. keithbvadu2 Mar 2017 #14
Yes! Great news Blue_Roses Mar 2017 #11
K and R. riversedge Mar 2017 #15
Ryan will be back!! Also Tom Price will start taking down any regulations he can. It will be riversedge Mar 2017 #16

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
1. Oooooh this is going to require one huge "Touch Myself" Rally
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:48 PM
Mar 2017

for Donnie to recover some of his self esteem....

Kablooie

(18,571 posts)
13. Oh, of course it wasn't *his*fault. He did everything perfectly. Ryan screwed up.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:50 PM
Mar 2017

And that's what Trump's followers are saying.
They blame Ryan 100% and Trump comes off spotless, of course.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. So, the Kochs wouldn't deal. We know that because
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:56 PM
Mar 2017

their personal house caucus wouldn't deal.

Wonder what next steps they have planned. What programs are being hollowed out from inside as we chortle over this setback?

They and their hundreds of anti-tax/anti-regulation wannabe kleptocrats are not done with dismantling our government by any means. And Robert Spencer, who helped attach Bannon to Rump's ear, also absolutely intends to shrink government to the size of a pin point.

 

disalitervisum

(470 posts)
7. That's very interesting, I'm reading
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:02 PM
Mar 2017

Dark Money by Jane Mayer right now. The Koch Brothers certainly need more attention. Don't you think they ordered the bill to be pulled so their members wouldn't have to commit themselves?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. That seems likely enough, so far as it goes.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:38 PM
Mar 2017

Get them on the record as fighting for the people to replace the ACA with "better," while protecting them from consequence and letting the evil RINOs be blamed for failing the people.

Really wish I knew enough to guess what they're up to. After all, "RINO" Ryan used to be fairly tight with them too. The Kochs apparently pushed him on Romney, and I imagine he still is as much as he can be. They share the same ultimate goals after all.

Beyond a doubt the Kochs must be scheming how to keep their personal wingnut caucus loyal and worked up, while also seducing Rump's trumpsters to their flag. Spencer, other wealthy factions, and the religious right are busy trying to dismantle government also, a temporary alliance of enemies all angling for power.

It's beyond me. That's quite a book, isn't it? Mayer identified and connected a lot of dots. Trying to follow what's happening, I often wish she'd named more names of people who know things in it, but that probably would not have been in most of those peoples' best interest. In fact, the book is unusually lean in that respect.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
9. they killed this vote
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:11 PM
Mar 2017

they will back a full repeal and any legislation that cuts medicare and SS. The fascist brothers control majority house, senate and pres twit. They are on record saying they won't be happy until there is no medicaid, medicare and social security.

cstanleytech

(26,080 posts)
10. I suspect they will go after the sources of funding for Obamacare instead and kneecap it that way
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:12 PM
Mar 2017

and then they will claim its all the Democrats fault and that Obamacare failed like they "predicted" it would when the truth will be that will have failed only because the Repugnants kneecapped it.

keithbvadu2

(36,362 posts)
14. It's not Obamacare anymore.... It is Trumpcare.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:55 PM
Mar 2017

It's not Obamacare anymore.... It is Trumpcare.

The republicans own it.

riversedge

(69,719 posts)
16. Ryan will be back!! Also Tom Price will start taking down any regulations he can. It will be
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 11:46 AM
Mar 2017

similar to Roe v. Wade--chip away at ACA. YES it will. People in Red states have and will feel the blunt of it. But with Tom Price, it will be nationwide.

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