Trump may bypass hardline conservatives on tax, White House says
Source: Reuters
Sun Mar 26, 2017 | 12:00pm EDT
By Lindsay Dunsmuir and Doina Chiacu | WASHINGTON
Fresh off a defeat on U.S. healthcare legislation, the White House warned rebellious conservative lawmakers that they should get behind President Donald Trump's agenda or he may opt to bypass them on future legislative fights, including tax reform.
Both Trump and White House chief of staff Reince Priebus scolded hardline conservatives who rejected legislation backed by the White House to overhaul Obamacare.
Speaking on "Fox News Sunday," Priebus held out the possibility of working with moderate Democrats as well as Republicans to pass other aspects of Trump's agenda, such as his proposed budget, the revamp of the tax code and a renewed effort at healthcare reform.
"If we can come up with a bill that accomplishes the goals of the president with Republicans alone, we'll take and we'll move forward with it," Priebus said.
Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-taxes-idUSKBN16X0MM
underpants
(182,988 posts)Without the poo flingers on his side there is no majority. This may just be an opening offer but last week showed us that he and Ryan don't have control.
UncleTomsEvilBrother
(945 posts)Pelosi and Schumer should try to negotiate for Universal Healthcare.
riversedge
(70,413 posts)......Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer criticized Trump over his handling of the healthcare bill and said Republicans would face the same conservative revolt on other issues.
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"They're going to repeat the same mistake they made on Trumpcare with tax reform," Schumer told ABC.
He urged Trump to go a different path: reject the Freedom Caucus and work with Democrats.
"If he changes, he could have a different presidency," Schumer said. "He's going to have to tell them he can't work with them and we'll certainly look at his proposals. But it's going to be guided on our values."................................
ananda
(28,891 posts)And no confirmation for GorSUCKS.
LOL Lib
(1,462 posts)"We'll take and move forward with it."
It is Repuke to the core.
OldRedneck
(1,397 posts). . . you will be bored with winning!"
"On my first day in office, I will repeal and replace Obamacare."
"I know more about ISIS than the generals. I will destroy ISIS during my first 30 days in office."
"If I'm elected president, I'm accepting no salary."
I will ask, to appoint a special prosecutor. We have to investigate Hillary Clinton, and we have to investigate the investigation.
"I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me, and Ill build them very inexpensively. I will build a great great wall on our southern border and Ill have Mexico pay for that wall."
"I have lots of prime, oceanfront property in Arizona that you can have cheap."
ToxMarz
(2,169 posts)They REALLY don't like losing. But they are still able to blame it on "everyone" so it's not just them that is the problem. Solution as they see it? If doubling down didn't work, triple down on the stupid!
bucolic_frolic
(43,442 posts)He has no authority because he has no legitimacy. He's bypassing Democrats completely.
Hardline conservatives won't compromise on anything that doesn't suit their agenda.
Politicians usually find a way, but right now I'm thinking there won't be much movement
in any of these components. The only thing they'll do is pass a budget that no one likes.
BumRushDaShow
(129,876 posts)and even that wouldn't make it through the Senate.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,064 posts)uppityperson
(115,681 posts)OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)so well, we're just going to double-down and do it some more.
Rural_Progressive
(1,107 posts)dealing with anything but lickspittles, toadies, and sycophants.
He comes from a lifetime of being able to say "YOU'RE FIRED" to anyone who disagrees with him, doesn't toe his line, and/or just irritates him for any reason. This does not in anyway prepare someone for working for compromise and consensus.
He's 70 years old, has multiple personality disorders, has never had to compromise on anything. This is a great big, old, dog who isn't going to learn any new tricks.
There is a better chance of him winning the 100 meter sprint at the next Olympics than his being effective even with our severely dysfunctional government. It's only going downhill from here.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,064 posts)David Frum tweet:? "Regular reminder that Donald Trumps core competency is not dealmaking with powerful counter-parties. It is duping gullible victims."
FakeNoose
(32,854 posts)... making Trump's life miserable.
The Tea Party is just as hopeless & miserable so I hope they all have fun together in HELL.
Payback's a bitch, and we're almost there!
WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)"working with moderate Democrats as well as Republicans to pass other aspects of Trump's agenda, such as his proposed budget, the revamp of the tax code and a renewed effort at healthcare reform"
The word you need to use for Trump and Republicans is... NO.
We've seen his budget... NO.
Last I heard his revamp of the tax code would give tax cuts to the 1% and harm middle class and poor. If this is true... NO.
If healthcare reform does ANYTHING but improve coverage and lower costs for those who need it the most... NO.
Trump does NOT have a mandate. Trump and his cabal are under investigation for possible treason. Trump does NOT have a majority of Americans on his side. We are now 100% the OPPOSITION party.
Unless he and other Republicans reverse the harmful BS they are doing/planning on doing... Just.say.NO. Then get out in public stating loudly and clearly WHY it's 'NO'.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,064 posts)Now he is at war with his hard-core conservative base.
We predicted that something like that would happen because he is so stupid, but the specifics were unpredictable.
WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)Not surprising after his sissy fit over his inauguration attendance totals vs Obama's or even the Women's March.
cstanleytech
(26,347 posts)I'm not opposed outright to tax cuts for the wealthy but they dont deserve it as "job creators" because thats a complete myth as cutting their taxes does not create anymore jobs or atleast nothing that pays better than a part time cashier at a McJob does and thats not enough to pay even basic bills let alone being able to set aside 30% for retirement.
No, if the wealthy want these tax cuts badly enough then they need to address the pay gap first between the average worker and the wealthy as the wealthy have seen more and more pay gains for themselves where as the average worker has seen their buying power and pay checks shrinking.
ProfessorGAC
(65,334 posts)I agree that the "job creator" thing is nonsense, but unlike you, i AM opposed outright to tax cuts for the wealthy. When the government can cut taxes on the middle class and lower middle class (and btw, i'm probably considered upper MC, or at least leaning that way from the middle) to close the real income gap over the last 20+ years, and we find a way to pay for that, (easier than huge tax cuts for people who don't actually recycle the money back into the economy) then we can begin(!) discussing tax cuts for the wealthy.
BTW: Where did you get that 30% set-aside number for retirement? That seems a preposterously high number for nearly anybody, except of course people who make 7 figures per year or more.
Sgent
(5,857 posts)is on corporate taxation.
Our corporate tax situation is completely bollucked -- you couldn't pick a worse tax policy if you tried it. Every other country in the world (well, except Estonia) has harmonized their corporate tax code to a large extent, we have not, and its killing us. Its killing our jobs, our infrastructure, our world competitiveness, and the investment in the US.
I don't support (although I would benefit from) significant tax cuts to individual taxation, although I might be in favor of getting rid of sub S taxation (which would probably be a net gain in revenue, but maybe not). But a complete rewrite of C corp taxation, even a revenue neutral one, is desperately needed.
Note when I say tax policy I don't mean tax rates, I mean how (in very general terms) corporate income taxes are calculated. Countries still have very different tax rates and there are still some outliers, but the major economies of Europe, Japan, and Asia ex China all agree on taxation of domestic profits.
WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)what Obama and Dems have wanted to do and what Trump and moderate Republicans want. I'm not a professional economist so while I'll be interested in seeing any proposals I'm more interested in how any proposals are analysed by a few of the better ones.
Perhaps part of a deal to lower Corp tax rates could a bit of give by corporations in the often wildly different CEOs pay to worker bee pay ratios. If workers make more, they spend more which helps the economy and eventually comes back around and helps the corporation the workers work for.
I'll have to do a bit of research soon and see if I can find info on how the U.S. Corp tax policy/rates compare to other countries that are doing well economically (as well as not).
MarcA
(2,195 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,876 posts)to block anything that Drumpf keeps threatening to put forward that would bypass them. And none of it will get him Dem votes.
He will find continuing to use his Art of the Fail tactics will get him laughed at right in his face.
benld74
(9,911 posts)cstanleytech
(26,347 posts)Repugnants but the Repugnants rather than try to work with the Democrats have rebuffed them and now the same thing is happening internally to the Repugnants and its made it so they are completely ineffective at governing.
jmowreader
(50,580 posts)If he expects Democratic support, this is what we need.
1. The Trump Wall is dead. He can have a 100 percent increase in Border Patrol funding.
2. Merrick Garland goes on the Supreme Court.
3. Trump puts all his businesses in a blind trust with no Trump Family involvement.
4. Complete disclosure of all foreign ties with any Trump family member.
5. One vacation every six months and no more.
6. Additional spending paid for by tax increases.
7. The NEA, NEH, CPB, Amtrak, are off limits. The Affordable Care Act is to be strengthened.
8. No tax cuts for any reason.
9. The CFPB doubles in size.
10. Leave regulations alone. (The biggest producer of regulations is the FAA. Most of them are Notices to Airmen, Airworthiness Directives and Temporary Flight Restrictions. Under Trump's edict, every time he flies to Palm Beach a government agency has to kill two regulations.)
MurrayDelph
(5,302 posts)Full and complete tax returns for the last ten years.
jmowreader
(50,580 posts)Be reasonable, Murray: if you were a tenth as dirty as Trump is, would you put your underhanded dealings in your tax returns?
MurrayDelph
(5,302 posts)I would still want to see the ones he reported to the IRS, if nothing else than we could stop his fake-auditing and move to full-fledged evasion.
Grins
(7,257 posts)I want to go all the way back to when he was dealing with the Mafia in NYC and Atlantic City.
We have the Clinton's tax returns going back 40-years so NBD, amiright?
0rganism
(23,984 posts)... we can kiss any potential congressional gains in 2018 goodbye, and we can save ourselves the trouble of fielding a candidate in 2020
collaboration with Trump is poison, pure and simple, undermining all resistance and opposition.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)Dem Party for good and registering with one of the real Socialist parties out here in California (like Peace & Freedom).
I would hope all leftists are considering similar action.
Girard442
(6,087 posts)He'd agree to something one day and deny he'd ever heard of it the next.
Grins
(7,257 posts)First, history has several examples where the executive overreached and Congress pushed back - hard. Even if some members may agree with the executive overreach, not just those Congressional radicals will resent the power grab and turn on him.
Second, if he thinks Democrats will work with Trump on tax reform he is delusional. There is only one - ADMITTED! - reason the R's wanted to rush repealing Obamacare and that was to come up with a source to fund TAX CUTS. That was not a health care bill that just went down in agony - that was a bill to cut taxes for those who don't need it.
"But my bottom line is this: This discussion has been far too much about artificial timelines, arbitrary deadlines, all to effect the baseline on tax reform." - Penn. Republican, Charlie Dent, in an interview on "Meet The Press," admitting the entire Obamacare repeal-and-replace was about tax cuts.