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Judi Lynn

(160,218 posts)
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 07:33 PM Mar 2017

Execution statue, with firing squad, heads to Miss. governor

Source: Associated Press


Sarah Smith and Jeff Amy, Associated Press Updated 6:12 pm, Tuesday, March 28, 2017


JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — Lawmakers want Mississippi to change how it handles executions, with changes meant to overcome legal challenges to execution drugs, and possibly allow the state to use electrocution and the firing squad as death penalty methods.

The Senate agreed on Tuesday to changes to HB 638, sending it to Gov. Phil Bryant for his approval or veto after the House agreed Monday.

The measure lists four preferred execution methods. The first is lethal injection using a three-drug mixture. After that, in order, the bill specifies poison gas, electrocution and firing squad as execution methods.



Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/New-execution-statue-including-firing-squad-head-11034036.php

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Execution statue, with firing squad, heads to Miss. governor (Original Post) Judi Lynn Mar 2017 OP
Hah...the link has a misspelling. I thought this was a monument honoring executions! George II Mar 2017 #1
I thought the same thing! cos dem Mar 2017 #4
Just about every church? The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #7
Sure nycbos Mar 2017 #13
That's exactly what I was thinking. I was wondering if the poster misspelled the word or if it was StevieM Mar 2017 #10
Or, is it a statue that kills people? Scary! Oneironaut Mar 2017 #11
Dr. Who Weeping Angels Thor_MN Mar 2017 #18
True! A statue like that would probably draw right-wing pilgrims every day. Judi Lynn Mar 2017 #22
I was hoping to see the statue, too! LOL Kimchijeon Mar 2017 #38
They need to abandon that 3 drug mixture, it's cruel in the extreme Warpy Mar 2017 #2
a nitrogen chamber would be even more humane. cab67 Mar 2017 #3
Suffocation is NOT humane. If you don't believe, try it sometime with a friend you trust. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #14
It's not the same kind of suffocation. cab67 Mar 2017 #15
That requires high pressurization. It's not practical and other things like opioids are more humane. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #17
You don't know what you are talking about. Thor_MN Mar 2017 #19
That requires high pressurization. It's not practical and other things like opioids are more humane. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #20
Again, you don't know what you are talking about. Thor_MN Mar 2017 #25
Always wondered about that... Baconator Mar 2017 #28
Execution is NOT Murder. MicaelS Mar 2017 #24
Keep telling yourself that Warpy Mar 2017 #26
Tough shit. MicaelS Mar 2017 #27
A family nenber was murdered when I was sixteen Warpy Mar 2017 #29
*Legitimate* legislators do that ck4829 Mar 2017 #30
That's a wonderful way to rationalize vengeance by a simple mind. LanternWaste Mar 2017 #41
Yes it is murder... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #35
So Japan isn't "civilized"? MicaelS Mar 2017 #40
They have the death penalty so no. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #44
My cousin was murdered in a small store in Virginia by a serial killer who Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #36
Maybe this thread title is a preview of Trump's ultimate plan MrPurple Mar 2017 #5
and TX barbtries Mar 2017 #6
"Violence is as American as cherry pie." H. Rap Brown - nt KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #31
What century is this from? procon Mar 2017 #8
You know how they love to put up statues in the South. mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2017 #9
Finally people can shoot their guns at thugs legally. I'm sure they kacekwl Mar 2017 #12
Why not hanging? It's traditional. n/t Odoreida Mar 2017 #16
nau T y spelling Demonaut Mar 2017 #21
Well, MAGA just got better. Doreen Mar 2017 #23
I am 100% against the death penalty, and think it should be abolished -- however obamanut2012 Mar 2017 #32
There is no humane way. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #37
Did you miss my air quotes and my saying I am 100% against the DP? obamanut2012 Mar 2017 #46
Sorry...replying to someone else or I missed it. Mea culpa Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #47
Firing SQUADS, making AMERICA GREAT AGAIN yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #33
Maybe it's a bad reminder of the French Revolution dalton99a Mar 2017 #34
Totally opposed to the DP GulfCoast66 Mar 2017 #39
Beheadings. We need beheadings. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2017 #42
New sick business opportunity coming up duncang Mar 2017 #43
You forgot people volunteering for the firing squad. MicaelS Mar 2017 #45
Execution by statue milestogo Mar 2017 #48

StevieM

(10,499 posts)
10. That's exactly what I was thinking. I was wondering if the poster misspelled the word or if it was
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 07:57 PM
Mar 2017

the article. So I clicked on the link and realized it was the article.

Maybe the writer made a typo and the proofreaders just didn't catch it.

Warpy

(110,913 posts)
2. They need to abandon that 3 drug mixture, it's cruel in the extreme
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 07:38 PM
Mar 2017

If the state wants to murder its citizens, an OD of fentanyl is simple, quick, and final, and the drug is widely available. They don't even need an IV site if the citizen in question is an addict with no veins left.

I'm against the DP but if they're going to do it, they need to do it right. Horrific pain (electricity) and blood spatter (firing squad) should not be up for debate.

cab67

(2,963 posts)
3. a nitrogen chamber would be even more humane.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 07:44 PM
Mar 2017

But the chances that an innocent person might be wrongfully executed, however small, renders the death penalty unacceptable.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,789 posts)
14. Suffocation is NOT humane. If you don't believe, try it sometime with a friend you trust.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 08:14 PM
Mar 2017

It's terrifying and painful. Your lungs bleed you try so hard to breath.

cab67

(2,963 posts)
15. It's not the same kind of suffocation.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 08:29 PM
Mar 2017

Deep-sea divers refer to "rapture of the deep" under these circumstances.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
19. You don't know what you are talking about.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 09:08 PM
Mar 2017

Suffocation is painful, but a nitrogen chamber is not suffocation.

A buildup of CO2 drives the need to breath, not lack of oxygen. In an atmosphere lacking O2, there is no buildup of CO2, so one breathes normally as CO2 leaves the lungs, but with no O2 to go into the blood, one passes out and will die within minutes.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
25. Again, you don't know what you are talking about.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 11:02 PM
Mar 2017

Last edited Tue Mar 28, 2017, 11:37 PM - Edit history (1)

Nitrogen does not require high pressurization. That is a ridiculous assertion, as almost 80% of what you are breathing right now is nitrogen. Remove the oxygen and you would breath normally, blowing off CO2 from your blood into your lungs, relieving any out-of-breath sensation, until you passed out eventually died from lack of oxygen. People have died from nitrogen asphyxiation accidentally and there are no signs of struggle or trauma. They just pass out, then die.

Not that I would wish that on any one. I'm pretty much against the death penalty, I just dislike "facts" being pushed that are completely false.

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
28. Always wondered about that...
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 11:51 PM
Mar 2017

Nitrogen always seemed like the easiest way to go...

I suspect that it is the perception of cruelty (suffocation) even if that wouldn't physically be the case.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
24. Execution is NOT Murder.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 10:59 PM
Mar 2017

Murder is unlawful killing with malice aforethought. If the State defines a particular form of Homicide as Legal, it is not unlawful. Just like the use of Deadly Force in a case of Self-Defense is not Murder.

So what form of Execution is "right"?

Warpy

(110,913 posts)
26. Keep telling yourself that
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 11:15 PM
Mar 2017

I don't give any state the power to eliminate anyone's inalienable rights.

Warpy

(110,913 posts)
29. A family nenber was murdered when I was sixteen
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 12:23 AM
Mar 2017

You, cowboy?

I suggest you're talking about something you know nothing about. Having the guy murdered in turn in my name would have made the whole thing far worse than it was and it was a tough sell since he was suspected of 2 other, similar murders.

Don't project onto people you don't know.

Goodbye.

ck4829

(34,977 posts)
30. *Legitimate* legislators do that
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 05:55 AM
Mar 2017

We're seeing less and less evidence every day that these clowns, whether they're in Mississippi or DC, truly represent us.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
41. That's a wonderful way to rationalize vengeance by a simple mind.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 02:38 PM
Mar 2017

"You don't make the laws, legislators do that..."

That's a wonderful way to rationalize vengeance by a simple mind, regardless of the fortitude of your fecal matter.

(not that you are wonderful, rationalizing, vengeful or simplistic... )

Demsrule86

(68,352 posts)
35. Yes it is murder...
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 12:59 PM
Mar 2017

And certainly when the state straps you down an kills you...there is premeditation...we are the only 'civilized' country in the world who has a death penalty and it is just plain wrong.

Demsrule86

(68,352 posts)
44. They have the death penalty so no.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 06:43 PM
Mar 2017

They do however not use it as often as here in the US and almost always for multiple victim murderers...the death penalty is a barbaric practice and should be ended.

Demsrule86

(68,352 posts)
36. My cousin was murdered in a small store in Virginia by a serial killer who
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 01:03 PM
Mar 2017

had worked his way down from California killing randomly. He made my cousin beg for his life and then shot him...every member of my family asked that the death penalty not be imposed...the death penalty is murder and used in discriminatory way also.

MrPurple

(985 posts)
5. Maybe this thread title is a preview of Trump's ultimate plan
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 07:45 PM
Mar 2017

Have illegal immigrants executed BY the Statue of Liberty, live on pay per view - $49.95. Trade in that torch for an AR-15.

barbtries

(28,702 posts)
6. and TX
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 07:45 PM
Mar 2017

had to be told by a court to refer to modern science when determining whether a death row prisoner was mentally suitable for execution.

jeez no wonder we have such a fucked up country. people here want to kill other people. they really want to.

procon

(15,805 posts)
8. What century is this from?
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 07:52 PM
Mar 2017
The measure lists four preferred execution methods. The first is lethal injection using a three-drug mixture. After that, in order, the bill specifies poison gas, electrocution and firing squad as execution methods.


How does any civilized, sane, human being sit in a room and actually list their personal preferences for killing other people as though they're talking about favorite movies? I'm surprised that they would limit the choices when deep in their black hearts, the "Lawmakers" of Mississippi pine for the most barbarous torture scenes depicted on episodes of Game of Thrones and Vikings.

kacekwl

(6,994 posts)
12. Finally people can shoot their guns at thugs legally. I'm sure they
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 08:03 PM
Mar 2017

Will have many citizens volunteer for fireing squads.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
23. Well, MAGA just got better.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 10:45 PM
Mar 2017

We can go back to the cowboy and Indian days where we can just hang or do firing squad. We can have public executions while we have 8-track music blaring from behind...of course in Disco. Let's go back to where you are only allowed to have sex in missionary position. Women are not allowed to own anything and if her husband dies it goes to the next man in line. If someone steals a horse you can hang them. Let's take the vote away from women and any people of color. You can open carry a gun anywhere and any time and no registration what so ever. Slapping and abusing women and children will only be considered keeping them in line. A husband will be allowed to violently rape his wife. Animal abuse will not even be thought of...just done. No regulations what so ever on anything except the regulation that you have to respect rich white men at all times. Is America looking great again?

obamanut2012

(25,911 posts)
32. I am 100% against the death penalty, and think it should be abolished -- however
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:36 AM
Mar 2017

If states are going to be barbaric and execute people, I think the firing squad is the most "humane," since there's no way they will use the guillotine, which is the most "humane."

yuiyoshida

(41,763 posts)
33. Firing SQUADS, making AMERICA GREAT AGAIN
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 10:09 AM
Mar 2017


Why don't you just use the fucking Guillotine, you ASSHOLES.

Jut another Reason to hate Right Wingers.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
39. Totally opposed to the DP
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 01:34 PM
Mar 2017

And it shows how warped many states are. But if done it should be done in public so everyone can see the horror of it.

We used to have Public executions. But it was so barbaric Americans started turning against the death penalty. The death lovers could not have that so they close them all from the public to keep them supported.

I say if you're going to have them make them public and make parents take all their children above the age of eight. Let's get our Barbarism them out in the open

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,283 posts)
42. Beheadings. We need beheadings.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 03:23 PM
Mar 2017

Those, plus drawing-and-quartering, will go a long way toward eliminating crime.

Bigly.

duncang

(1,907 posts)
43. New sick business opportunity coming up
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 03:56 PM
Mar 2017

And you know this will happen. If this is passed and the firing squad is used. The guns will make it out to the public and be sold with lists of who they killed.

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