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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 08:39 AM Jul 2012

Police Find Meth Lab in Center City Hotel (Philadelphia)

Source: NBC

A Center City hotel was evacuated and a man is in custody after police say they discovered a meth lab inside the building.

It happened around 5:30 a.m. at the Hampton Inn on 13th and Race. Investigators say an alarm system detected chemicals from a portable methamphetamine lab on the third floor of the building. Over 350 people inside the hotel were evacuated.

Investigators say a suspect is currently in custody for drug offenses, risking catastrophe and other possible charges. Police also say they let everyone back into the hotel except for the third floor occupants as the investigation continues. Police say they expect additional arrests.

Read more: http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Center-City-Hotel-Evacuated-Due-to-Chemical-Leak-Officials--164119956.html



I've stayed in that hotel. It's not a fleabag, but it's not a luxury hotel either. About three blocks or so from Independence Hall and right in the middle of Philly's convention area.

I suppose if drugs were legal, the cops wouldn't have bothered the poor guy.
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Police Find Meth Lab in Center City Hotel (Philadelphia) (Original Post) onehandle Jul 2012 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author mbperrin Jul 2012 #1
Hidden or snorted or smoked. marble falls Jul 2012 #3
Why Drug Dealers Live With Their Moms LARED Jul 2012 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author mbperrin Jul 2012 #7
Thanks for the link. Good explanation. nt valerief Jul 2012 #8
For the most part they actually aren't that lucrative Posteritatis Jul 2012 #17
Unless Walter White is in charge. Kablooie Jul 2012 #27
What? There weren't any trailor houses available? marble falls Jul 2012 #2
Actually if drugs were legal LARED Jul 2012 #4
Possibly. nt onehandle Jul 2012 #5
who's advocating legalizing meth? wordpix Jul 2012 #10
as are most pharmaceuticals. uncle ray Jul 2012 #12
I don't think FDA approved meds are made of kerosene and ammonium nitrate wordpix Jul 2012 #33
the ingredients and processing are available to view on YouTube may3rd Jul 2012 #15
Meth is already a legal drug. It can be prescribed. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2012 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author mbperrin Jul 2012 #18
I wonder what would have happened if he obtained it under medical supervision... Comrade Grumpy Jul 2012 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author mbperrin Jul 2012 #28
Meth's illegality didn't keep him out of prison Nevernose Jul 2012 #26
I have stayed at that hotel. Riley18 Jul 2012 #9
Why your last line? I don't know any one who's advocating legalizing meth. MH1 Jul 2012 #11
If meth were legal why would there be a need for hazardous clandestine laboratories? Fumesucker Jul 2012 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author mbperrin Jul 2012 #19
The CDC is clandestine? Fumesucker Jul 2012 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author mbperrin Jul 2012 #21
Clandestine means hidden.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author mbperrin Jul 2012 #23
Actually it would change practices because corporations can be sued.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author mbperrin Jul 2012 #29
Funny, I feel the same way about alcohol. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #30
Is that anyway to run a business? may3rd Jul 2012 #14
if drugs were legal barbtries Jul 2012 #31
Jeez! why couldn't he cook it in walmart like everyone else? Javaman Jul 2012 #32

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Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
17. For the most part they actually aren't that lucrative
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 02:32 PM
Jul 2012

We get the idea that dealers are rolling in cash mainly because most of the ones people know about are the big kingpin type figures.

The average dealer on the street or person cooking meth in their home? A lot of the studies into what their lives are like peg them as equivalent to a minimum wage job, and one with rather fewer benefits and more risks than a lot of those.

Think of it in terms of working in a retail chain store versus owning the chain. It's lucrative as hell at one end of that world, but very much not at the other.

(That's before getting into additional problems, like if a dealer has other habits which they sink their proceeds back into. I've known some very well-paid people who were struggling to keep the lights on because they drank or snorted their paychecks..)

Kablooie

(18,635 posts)
27. Unless Walter White is in charge.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 01:28 AM
Jul 2012

He's an unexploded bomb himself but his meth lab is under complete control.

 

LARED

(11,735 posts)
4. Actually if drugs were legal
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 08:52 AM
Jul 2012

the Meth Lab would be treated as a chemical manufacturing facility with layers of safety processes to keep OHSA pleased.

(Not advocating this)

 

may3rd

(593 posts)
15. the ingredients and processing are available to view on YouTube
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:51 AM
Jul 2012

Seriously,
these people need to be sterilized for destroying peoples lives
 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
16. Meth is already a legal drug. It can be prescribed.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:26 PM
Jul 2012

The brand name is Desoxyn, manufactured by Abbot Labs. They don't manufacture it in hotel rooms or trailers, though, because they can do it legally.

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Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
26. Meth's illegality didn't keep him out of prison
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:54 PM
Jul 2012

It just made homes uninhabitable die to toxic fumes and enriched Mexican drug lords at some point. Like you, I think it's disgusting, soul destroying shit, and I've also had a loved one go to prison for life because of a murder committed while under the influence. I think, however, that keeping these substances illegal cause more problems than they solve.

Riley18

(1,127 posts)
9. I have stayed at that hotel.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:04 AM
Jul 2012

When I was there the hotel catered to business people. It is a about two city blocks from City Hall. The "Roundhouse" police station is on Race Street too. So you could say the guy chose a good central location for his crime. Pretty considerate for someone who could have blown up the hotel.

MH1

(17,600 posts)
11. Why your last line? I don't know any one who's advocating legalizing meth.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:18 AM
Jul 2012

Certainly, setting up a mobile chemical lab in a hotel room would not be legal, even if in some way meth were made "legal".

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
13. If meth were legal why would there be a need for hazardous clandestine laboratories?
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 10:23 AM
Jul 2012

"Bathtub gin" more or less went away with the end of Alcohol Prohibition.

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Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
20. The CDC is clandestine?
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:34 PM
Jul 2012

It's amazing the things I learn on DU..

Meth is popular to an extent precisely because you can work your ass off on it, it's a very American drug, lets you drag your ass to your third minimum wage part time job instead of falling out from exhaustion.


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Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
22. Clandestine means hidden..
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 04:56 PM
Jul 2012

Those making illegal drug are interested in two things, first is not getting caught and second is profit. First class safety precautions are both expensive and obvious, neither criteria endears those precautions to those wanting to remain undetected while making a large profit.

Not everyone works in the oilfield, it's a vastly different environment than most minimum wage jobs, I know this from personal experience as a former oil patch worker.

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Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
24. Actually it would change practices because corporations can be sued..
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 09:19 PM
Jul 2012

Kind of hard to sue the illegal meth lab on the next block..

People are more productive on speed, or can be at least for a while. I never claimed there were no ill effects but most minimum wage jobs don't have the inherent danger of a lot of oil patch jobs like rigger, pipefitter, welder or roustabout.

What speed does do is let you drag your ass to the third of your part time minimum wage jobs when without it you would collapse in a heap on the couch.. You may not be terribly effective when you get there but at least you can make it..

Keep in mind that the US Air Force sometimes issues speed to pilots who have to go on extended missions and stay awake and alert for extended periods...



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Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
30. Funny, I feel the same way about alcohol.
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 05:37 AM
Jul 2012

I've had some horrific experiences in which alcohol addiction played a major part, I haven't gotten drunk in over thirty years because of what I've experienced from alcohol addicts.



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