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kpete

(71,997 posts)
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:18 AM Jul 2012

Cheney: Palin pick was a mistake

Source: USA Today

Cheney: Palin pick was a mistake

Former Vice President Dick Cheney is critical of the process that led to the 2008 selection of another Republican vice presidential candidate: Sarah Palin.

"I think that was a mistake," Cheney said in an interview for ABC's This Week.

Cheney said Palin, then the first-term governor of Alaska, failed the most basic test of being on the vice presidential short list: "Is this person capable of being president of the United States?"

Said Cheney: "I like Governor Palin. I've met her. I know her ... Attractive candidate. But based on her background -- she'd only been governor for, what, two years -- I don't think she passed that test ... of being ready to take over. And I think that was a mistake."


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Cheney: Palin pick was a mistake (Original Post) kpete Jul 2012 OP
Even Cheney can be right once in a while. nt bemildred Jul 2012 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author nanabugg Jul 2012 #40
That process should have been going on in your brain snooper2 Jul 2012 #2
Term limits will allow big money to put their "man" into office xtraxritical Jul 2012 #18
Yeah! Cracklin Charlie Jul 2012 #24
Err...22nd amendment? alp227 Jul 2012 #31
what's your point about term limits? alp227 Jul 2012 #32
Gee, Dick, do ya think? nichomachus Jul 2012 #3
Like dimson's pick in 2000? muntrv Jul 2012 #4
Ya beat me to it: Note to CHEENEE, so was yours, not that Shrub is who decided n/t UTUSN Jul 2012 #37
actually, I thought she was a perfect pick magical thyme Jul 2012 #5
May Romney make such a mistake. YewNork Jul 2012 #6
He had to be honest about it. Lets face it she was the worst choice. southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #7
rmoney, on the other hand, served out a full, unpopular term. unblock Jul 2012 #8
Translation: McCain should have picked Romney i.e. the Wars 'r' US goodhousekeeping seal of approval patrice Jul 2012 #9
LMAO! Third Doctor Jul 2012 #10
Oh gimme a break DFW Jul 2012 #11
+1 & Dickshit was an oil man who wasn't ready to take over, either wordpix Jul 2012 #12
Cheney: Water is wet Marrah_G Jul 2012 #13
Good thing you were in charge of GWBs VP selection team, amiright Dick? tanyev Jul 2012 #14
Brillant insight 4 years after it Doesn't Plucking matter LOL Heather MC Jul 2012 #15
Ha! tk2kewl Jul 2012 #16
It's a back-handed compliment to Romney for his remarks in Israel this week. Link: patrice Jul 2012 #17
Uh.... SoapBox Jul 2012 #19
Oh my. BumRushDaShow Jul 2012 #20
Damn, that makes three strikes in a row for the GOP.... lastlib Jul 2012 #21
One black hole looks into another! skip fox Jul 2012 #22
Rocktivity: Cheney Pick Of Cheney rocktivity Jul 2012 #23
This coming from the man who was the running mate and VP Generic Other Jul 2012 #25
... who selected himself as VP nichomachus Jul 2012 #28
So now the "mistake" is calling the "mistake" a "mistake"? spindetective Jul 2012 #26
The only thing I want to hear from Cheney nichomachus Jul 2012 #27
He probably should have Dick choose his running mate for him... Blanks Jul 2012 #29
This will not sit well with Queen Sarah of Babble-On..... lastlib Jul 2012 #30
It's certainly not sitting well with the Freepers Jim Lane Jul 2012 #34
I guess the Palin pick was probably a Two Santa Claus strategy. alp227 Jul 2012 #33
Dick Cheney was the worst VP in the history of the country. Plain was a great pick (for Dems). olddad56 Jul 2012 #35
Looking forward to hearing Palin's response :) n/t Tx4obama Jul 2012 #36
One big 'ol bowl of Word Salad coming right up. Marie Marie Jul 2012 #38
He's just saying that to support Romney. Quantess Jul 2012 #39
Hey Dick.... God's waiting room called... lib2DaBone Jul 2012 #41

Response to bemildred (Reply #1)

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
2. That process should have been going on in your brain
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:23 AM
Jul 2012

you senile old coot...

We SOOOOOOOOO need term limits...

 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
18. Term limits will allow big money to put their "man" into office
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:38 PM
Jul 2012

with no worries about reelection by voters. Term limits are a terrible idea.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
24. Yeah!
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:22 PM
Jul 2012

I also think term limits are a terrible idea, but I like your reason better than mine. I don't want term limits in my state, as the chances of electing a no-nothing are much too high. I like having persons representing me who know how to do their job. Electing all those idiot tea partiers in 2010 convinced me that term limits were a bad idea.
 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
5. actually, I thought she was a perfect pick
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:31 AM
Jul 2012

endlessly entertaining gift that keeps on giving. and a guaranteed loser.

unblock

(52,262 posts)
8. rmoney, on the other hand, served out a full, unpopular term.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:35 AM
Jul 2012

i guess that makes all the difference.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
9. Translation: McCain should have picked Romney i.e. the Wars 'r' US goodhousekeeping seal of approval
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:42 AM
Jul 2012

for Romney, Offered in response to Romney's remarks the other day in Israel about Islamic leaders throughout the Muslim world.

IOW it's is Cheney telling war supporters that PNAC et al will back Romney.

I mean, why else would he bother saying something like this?

DFW

(54,414 posts)
11. Oh gimme a break
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:45 AM
Jul 2012

Romney's a mistake who isn't ready to take over, either, and yet Cheney's pulling for him--

until the election is over, that is. THEN he will come clean about how Romney was a mistake, too.

(like the rest of us don't already know that)

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
12. +1 & Dickshit was an oil man who wasn't ready to take over, either
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 11:53 AM
Jul 2012

CEO of Hollowburden, big f-ing deal. So he knows how to get oil from the ground to international markets. That does not a good veep make.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
15. Brillant insight 4 years after it Doesn't Plucking matter LOL
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:04 PM
Jul 2012

Dear Dick
you can't win them all
2008 was the repugs year to lose no matter who McLame picked. and Prayfully 2012 is the Repugs year to lose, and if I an not being too greedy 2016 hopefully ain't looking to good for you either!

BumRushDaShow

(129,165 posts)
20. Oh my.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:42 PM
Jul 2012

Teabaggers won't like this.

This is going to need the big popcorn machine.



And I'll throw in some cotton candy for 1/2 price!



Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
25. This coming from the man who was the running mate and VP
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:31 PM
Jul 2012

of the worst most unqualified presidential candidate and president in history. WORST.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
29. He probably should have Dick choose his running mate for him...
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:49 PM
Jul 2012

I'm trying to remember; how did it turn out last time he was picked to do that?

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
34. It's certainly not sitting well with the Freepers
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:37 PM
Jul 2012

The most common view over there is that the mistake was in having McCain at the top of the ticket. Many of them assert that, without Palin as a running mate, McCain would have lost by an even bigger margin.

If you want to visit their alternate reality: Free Republic thread about Cheney and Palin.

Some say they never liked Cheney anyway. Others say that they've now lost all respect for him.

The strength of their loyalty to Palin is really striking.

alp227

(32,037 posts)
33. I guess the Palin pick was probably a Two Santa Claus strategy.
Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:28 PM
Jul 2012

Thom Hartmann frequently discusses the Two Santa Claus strategy devised in 1976 by Republican strategist Jude Wanniski. Read his National Observer op-ed from March 6, 1976 here. Basically, the theory goes: "The Democrats, the party of income redistribution, are best suited for the role of Spending Santa Claus. The Republicans, traditionally the party of income growth, should be the Santa Claus of Tax Reduction." Also, Republicans "embrace the role of Scrooge, playing into the hands of the Democrats, who know the first rule of successful politics is Never Shoot Santa Claus. The political tension in the market place of ideas must be between tax reduction and spending increases, and as long as Republicans have insisted on balanced budgets, their influence as a party has shriveled, and budgets have been imbalanced." And: "As (Republicans) succeed in expanding incentives to produce, they will move the economy back to full employment and thereby reduce social pressures for public spending."

During the election of 2008, the Democrats controlled both bodies of Congress, and the president was a Republican. Thus, the Republicans would have MORE power of screaming and hollering "DEBT! DEFICIT!" if a Democrat made it to the White House. Conservatives...like Cheney in this case...have acknowledged that Republicans might have intentionally wanted to lose the 2008 election in order to gain more power by screaming at Democrats. In 2010, Michael Savage wrote this revealing passage in the intro to his book Trickle Up Poverty: Stopping Obama's Attack on Our Borders, Economy, and Security:

The Republican establishment knew they had to give the power to a Democrat in order to take the spotlight off their own failure and excess—no matter how dangerous Obama might be once in power. They knew they had wrecked things so badly by running up the largest deficits in history and expanding the size of government—all under George Bush. They reason, “Let’s give it to a Democrat so the country can blame him for the worst four years in American history, and then we’ll come back triumphant with another Republicrat who will continue to hoodwink the sheeple.”


With the Bush tax cuts still in effect and debt ceiling debacle last summer we're seeing this "make the Democrats shoot Santa Claus" strategy in action. Do you know why House Speaker John Boehner bragged after the debt negotiations, "I got 98% of what I wanted"? As CBS reported, "...no stimulus in the debt-ceiling/deficit plan. Nada. No extension of unemployment benefits through 2012. No payroll tax holiday extension through 2012. Nor a move to extend the program to include employers in the tax holiday."

Republicans in Congress did the same thing back in the Clinton administration. In 1993, Newt Gingrich (then the House Minority Leader) went on the House floor and predicted that Clinton's economic plan (like raising the top tax rate slightly) would crash the economy (obviously not true). The following year, control of both bodies of Congress flipped from Democrats to Republicans, and one of the landmark achievements of the Clinton administration was "ending welfare as we know it".
 

lib2DaBone

(8,124 posts)
41. Hey Dick.... God's waiting room called...
Mon Jul 30, 2012, 07:02 PM
Jul 2012

They know who you are and what you did.

God wants to have a talk with you......

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