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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 09:35 AM Aug 2012

Two Pussy Riot members flee Russia

Source: Guardian

Two members of Russia's anti-Kremlin punk band Pussy Riot have fled the country to avoid prosecution for staging a protest against Vladimir Putin at a church altar, the band said on Sunday.

A Moscow court sentenced three members of the all-female opposition band to two years in prison on 17 August for staging a their song Punk Prayer at the Christ the Saviour Cathedral in February and calling on the Virgin Mary to rid Russia of Putin.

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Police said earlier this week they were searching for other members of the band.

"In regard to the pursuit, two of our members have successfully fled the country! They are recruiting foreign feminists to prepare new actions!," a Twitter account called Pussy Riot Group said.

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/aug/26/two-pussy-riot-flee-russia

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Two Pussy Riot members flee Russia (Original Post) dipsydoodle Aug 2012 OP
Glad they made it out. Vidar Aug 2012 #1
They Aren't Welcome in the U.S. Iggy Aug 2012 #2
that's probably right. You'd be fined. cali Aug 2012 #3
My problem's more in the realm of principle. Igel Aug 2012 #4
I'm not sure if anyone could have foreseen a 2 year sentence for making a statement. randome Aug 2012 #6
Great Points.. Thanks Iggy Aug 2012 #26
I think Iggy's post is perfectly reasonable and yours is rude. xtraxritical Aug 2012 #20
Thank You Iggy Aug 2012 #27
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Iggy Aug 2012 #25
Sometimes you have to go where you're really not wanted Kolesar Aug 2012 #8
Doesn't mean it'd be right. NYC Liberal Aug 2012 #24
I heard they were waving their Mary-imprinted slices of toast as they fled. valerief Aug 2012 #5
Some very powerful people resent the Mary Toast. formercia Aug 2012 #13
They should say the Mary Toast prayer valerief Aug 2012 #15
Bless You, my child. formercia Aug 2012 #19
So they were not in custody when sentenced treestar Aug 2012 #7
No, the convicted three aren't going anywhere. LisaL Aug 2012 #10
Oh treestar Aug 2012 #12
Police probably didn't know who they were. LisaL Aug 2012 #14
I saw the video, with the masks treestar Aug 2012 #17
There are at least seven members. Moscow police are still looking for members to "question". NYC_SKP Aug 2012 #21
Good ismnotwasm Aug 2012 #9
"Band on the run." randome Aug 2012 #11
Good news. truthisfreedom Aug 2012 #16
They can crash at my place. OverBurn Aug 2012 #18
k/r I was just gonna say that limpyhobbler Aug 2012 #23
I'd like to see them perform at the GOP Convention. gauguin57 Aug 2012 #22
Go!! PD Turk Aug 2012 #28
 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
2. They Aren't Welcome in the U.S.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 10:32 AM
Aug 2012

let's face it.. if I went in the main cathedral in Boston or NYC and did what PR did.. I'd
be arrested and heavily fined, too.



 

cali

(114,904 posts)
3. that's probably right. You'd be fined.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 10:47 AM
Aug 2012

do you not get the difference between two years imprisonment and a fine? Oh, and YOU have no fucking idea how much you'd be fined. Love that you think you can speak for the entire country, honey. you fucking well don't speak for me.

Igel

(35,356 posts)
4. My problem's more in the realm of principle.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 11:45 AM
Aug 2012

They intended to give offense. That's their schtick. They have a right to offend whoever they want to, wherever they want to, whenever they want to, and pretty much however they want to. There's a long tradition of this in "subversive" intellectual movements in Russia. You want to slap the public, dolt-slap the majority, because, well, you're just so much better than they are. It relieves them from any obligation to be respectful of their fellow citizens. The Supermen are ever thus.

However, many of the dolt-slappers of bygone years realized that if they gave offense they should be ready for when offense is taken. I mean, they want to be successful, you plan for success, right? They're claiming to be intellectually and/or morally superior. They know they can't pretend to have IQs in the single digits when people are suddenly offended and decide to respond in fairly predictable ways.

If you set out to catch a tiger by the tail, saying that not only are you an expert catcher but also well versed in tiger physiological and habits, you can't suddenly tremble in you boots and play the fool. "I thought it was an heirloom carrot. But I meant every word I said."

They did something. They were stupid enough not to figure out how it would work out--or believed themselves to be under some sort of divine grace because they're so morally superior. Yet they have no integrity. They believe themselves exempt from moral and legal judgment. They have belief in their goodness but aren't willing to play into the rest of the Russian schtick: That you must be willing to suffer for your principles if they're all that good.

If you're not willing to suffer for them, you've said they're worthless. That means the Pussy Riot folk on the run are either the equivalent of home-grown mercenaries and not true members of society or they're just cheap PR hussies on a kind of thrill ride. "Huh-huh, huh-huh. Got you to say 'pussy', Beavis."

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
6. I'm not sure if anyone could have foreseen a 2 year sentence for making a statement.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 12:55 PM
Aug 2012

Regardless of how one thinks that statement SHOULD have been made, they did not deserve this draconian treatment.

 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
26. Great Points.. Thanks
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 08:56 PM
Aug 2012

most of which I agree with.

If you're not willing to suffer for them, you've said they're worthless. That means the Pussy Riot folk on the run are either the equivalent of home-grown mercenaries and not true members of society or they're just cheap PR hussies on a kind of thrill ride.


Let's not judge PR members who bailed out of Russia so harshly.. until we know what's coming next.

think about it.. they have Sting and Sir Paul McCartney advocating for them and for the Russian court system
to be lenient.. how many times has McCartney played in Russia? they freakin love the Beatles there and they love him.

easy to predict this scenario: the PR members "on the run" hook up with Sting and/or McCartney.. they put some
music out together which calls attention to the "little" problem of Mr. Putin and how Russians are sick of
his BULLcrap. tons of media attention.. worldwide. Putin is made to look like a horse's ass.

the movement in Russia to be rid of him picks up steam.. isn't this exactly what PR members and their supporters in
Russia and elsewhere want?
 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
27. Thank You
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 08:59 PM
Aug 2012


apparently this person is having a bad day.

I think I can accurately say that almost all of the so called democrats in congress do not want subversives
like the PR members in the U.S.-- because obv they have the balls to speak out against what's wrong with
statism.
 

Iggy

(1,418 posts)
25. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 08:48 PM
Aug 2012

nice whining. very nice.

I'm "probably" right about the heavy fine?? what a weak load.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
5. I heard they were waving their Mary-imprinted slices of toast as they fled.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 12:36 PM
Aug 2012

Their destination? Hollywood, Florida, the Mary Toast capital of the world.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4019295.stm

formercia

(18,479 posts)
13. Some very powerful people resent the Mary Toast.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 02:06 PM
Aug 2012

There are some toes you don't want to step on too hard....

valerief

(53,235 posts)
15. They should say the Mary Toast prayer
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 02:34 PM
Aug 2012

Hail Mary, full of jam, the Loaf is with thee; toasted art thou amongst women, and toasted is the Pop-Tart of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, buttered by God, pray for us croutons, now and at the hour of our pop-up. Ramen

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
14. Police probably didn't know who they were.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 02:08 PM
Aug 2012

If you look at the photos, these women have masks on during these performances.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
17. I saw the video, with the masks
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 03:14 PM
Aug 2012

But hadn't realized there were more than 3 there.

But it's a band, so don't people know who they are? They'd have performed enough to be relatively famous? Maybe not.

gauguin57

(8,138 posts)
22. I'd like to see them perform at the GOP Convention.
Sun Aug 26, 2012, 04:10 PM
Aug 2012

The GOP needs a group called Pussy Riot to shock some sense into them!

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