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kpete

(71,980 posts)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:39 PM Oct 2012

US Navy sends in carriers to help NY, NJ after Sandy Barack Obama to visit flood-ravaged areas of th

Source: MSNBC

The U.S. Navy is sending three helicopter carrier ships to the coast off New York and New Jersey to help rescue and recovery operations in the wake of superstorm Sandy, officials told NBC News.
Navy officials said USS Wasp, USS Carter Hall, and USS Mesa Verde had been ordered to head to the area to provide landing platforms for Coast Guard, National Guard and civilian agency helicopters if needed.

The Atlantic Fleet command made the decision in the name of "prudent planning," officials said.

The USS Mesa Verde, seen in 2009, has been ordered to go to waters off the New York and New Jersey coasts.

With six days to go before the Nov. 6 elections, President Barack Obama will visit flood-ravaged areas of the New Jersey shore, where the storm made landfall on Monday.

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/49619068/ns/weather/#.UJFTu2_A9iB

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US Navy sends in carriers to help NY, NJ after Sandy Barack Obama to visit flood-ravaged areas of th (Original Post) kpete Oct 2012 OP
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2012 #1
K&R gademocrat7 Oct 2012 #2
Wow! lunatica Oct 2012 #3
If it had been a Pres. Romney Admin. glacierbay Oct 2012 #5
LOL! lunatica Oct 2012 #6
Damn!!! Beat me to it! nt msanthrope Oct 2012 #8
and women in binders! n/t cosmicone Oct 2012 #11
our attempted to outsource the recovery operation to China olddad56 Oct 2012 #19
I Was Thinking RobinA Oct 2012 #26
LOL glacierbay Oct 2012 #28
For some reason... awoke_in_2003 Nov 2012 #39
What?! No submarines?! mac56 Oct 2012 #4
What no battleships? LeftInTX Nov 2012 #43
Oh ya...and the Pukes SoapBox Oct 2012 #7
The repukes don't consider urban East coasters to be Americans. kestrel91316 Oct 2012 #9
Sarah Palin decided where the real America is. mac56 Oct 2012 #10
All I can say is that glacierbay Oct 2012 #13
Funny! If Palin is so fond of small towns how come she spends so much of her time in avaistheone1 Oct 2012 #23
Or too liberal (aka commies, unAmerican, Joe McArthy) LeftInTX Nov 2012 #44
Yep, it's "immoral." Think of the CHILDREN! CTyankee Oct 2012 #35
Excellent! AsahinaKimi Oct 2012 #12
I honestly thought that the had retired the Wasp. nt. glacierbay Oct 2012 #14
Don't know... AsahinaKimi Oct 2012 #15
Wasp-class LHDs malokvale77 Oct 2012 #18
Too bad there aren't any nuclear-powered carriers available NickB79 Oct 2012 #16
I think it was in the 70's or the 80's glacierbay Oct 2012 #17
US carriers and subs routinely do that during major disasters Posteritatis Oct 2012 #21
Ugh, I hate running water in port, I hope they were reprocessing instead Sirveri Nov 2012 #40
hmm, an invention, perhaps, to DiverDave Nov 2012 #41
Best use of our military in years. Well done. mahannah Oct 2012 #20
I'm waiting for Obama to put on a flight suit and land a helicopter. krispos42 Oct 2012 #22
I bet... MynameisBlarney Oct 2012 #25
America! Fuck Yeah! MynameisBlarney Oct 2012 #24
More wasteful spending. More big government. Hotler Oct 2012 #27
*sighs* MynameisBlarney Oct 2012 #29
I suppose defacto7 Oct 2012 #30
They need to send in the Comort and the Mercy too. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #31
This is how Government is *supposed* to work. AzDar Oct 2012 #32
Good news! HooptieWagon Oct 2012 #33
I think some CRUISE SHIPS should be sent in to house the homeless. Auntie Bush Oct 2012 #34
The carriers are definitely better as an immediate response Posteritatis Oct 2012 #37
Pretty sure it was sarcasm DiverDave Nov 2012 #42
Stupid Poe's Law; I can never tell anymore. (nt) Posteritatis Nov 2012 #45
If you've got the hose SCVDem Oct 2012 #36
Great idea establish mini airports where the damage is.... Historic NY Nov 2012 #38

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
3. Wow!
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 12:47 PM
Oct 2012

I'm fucking impressed! President Obama wasn't kidding when he said the only thing to do is come up with ways this can be done. He just ordered three Navy ships to the rescue.

Wow.

RobinA

(9,886 posts)
26. I Was Thinking
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 02:38 PM
Oct 2012

maybe the horses and bayonets would be ON the carriers. Horses can swim, can't they?

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
9. The repukes don't consider urban East coasters to be Americans.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:02 PM
Oct 2012

Too many of them are brown or yellow or Jewish.

mac56

(17,566 posts)
10. Sarah Palin decided where the real America is.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:06 PM
Oct 2012

“We believe that the best of America is not all in Washington, D.C. … We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America…”

 

glacierbay

(2,477 posts)
13. All I can say is that
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:09 PM
Oct 2012

Sarah Palin is a has been idiot who needs to stay in AK. and STFU.
On second thought, let her keep yapping, every time she opens her pie hole, it re-inforces my reason for being a Democrat.

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
23. Funny! If Palin is so fond of small towns how come she spends so much of her time in
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 02:31 PM
Oct 2012

big cities? Who would she be without all the media attention and limelight?

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
15. Don't know...
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:13 PM
Oct 2012

I have only ever visited an Air Craft Carrier and from what I have heard, its been retired to moth balls for a few years now.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
18. Wasp-class LHDs
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:38 PM
Oct 2012

Amphibious warships are designed to support the Marine Corps tenets of Operational Maneuver From the Sea (OMFTS) and Ship to Objective Maneuver (STOM). They must be able to sail in harm’s way and provide a rapid buildup of combat power ashore in the face of opposition. Because of their inherent capabilities, these ships have been and will continue to be called upon to also support humanitarian and other contingency missions on short notice. The United States maintains the largest and most capable amphibious force in the world. The Wasp-class LHDs are currently the largest amphibious ships in the world. The lead ship, USS Wasp (LHD 1) was commissioned in July 1989 in Norfolk, Va. LHA Replacement or LHA(R) is the next step in the incremental development of the “Big Deck Amphib”. She is being designed to accommodate the Marine Corps’ future Air Combat Element (ACE) including F-35B Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) and MV-22 Osprey with additional aviation maintenance capability and increased fuel capacities, while also providing additional cargo stowage capacities and enabling a broader, more flexible Command and Control capability.

My grandson is stationed at NAS Norfolk.

Edit to add: LHD-1 has medical and dental facilities capable of providing intensive medical assistance to 600 casualties, whether combat incurred or brought aboard ship during humanitarian missions.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
16. Too bad there aren't any nuclear-powered carriers available
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:13 PM
Oct 2012

In previous natural disasters, they were able to run cables from them to power key infrastructure from their reactors.

 

glacierbay

(2,477 posts)
17. I think it was in the 70's or the 80's
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 01:24 PM
Oct 2012

that a nuclear powered attack sub provided power to New Orleans after a hurricane. Can't find the story right now, but I seem to remember that happening.
A sub might be better as it could get closer to the coast line than a carrier could.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
21. US carriers and subs routinely do that during major disasters
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 02:17 PM
Oct 2012

Katrina, the southeast Asian tsunami, the works.

Both can provide electricity, and the carriers can produce absurd quantities of fresh water. And, of course, there's the crews on board who can do their own things.

Sirveri

(4,517 posts)
40. Ugh, I hate running water in port, I hope they were reprocessing instead
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 04:18 AM
Nov 2012

desal in port clogs and fouls all the equipment up, some poor bastards in M-Div will be cleaning those things for weeks. Really hope they're piping the water in for reprocess rather than pulling it up from the harbor water.

DiverDave

(4,886 posts)
41. hmm, an invention, perhaps, to
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 06:21 AM
Nov 2012

solve that messy and time consuming issue?

Sounds like a great way to clean up oily water AND help out the poor
enlisted guys that have to clean up the mess.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
22. I'm waiting for Obama to put on a flight suit and land a helicopter.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 02:25 PM
Oct 2012

Oh, how the right-wing heads would explode...

Hotler

(11,411 posts)
27. More wasteful spending. More big government.
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 02:41 PM
Oct 2012

Fucking 47%ers need to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps instead of relying on handouts from my tax dollars.
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Do I need the sarcasum thingy????

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
30. I suppose
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 03:03 PM
Oct 2012

private enterprise could just send in their Navy with their carriers and helicopters, and maybe their private nuclear subs as well.

Sure....

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
33. Good news!
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 03:23 PM
Oct 2012

Besides chopper landing platforms, they can make a lot of fresh water, and have hospital beds and medical staff if needed.

Thats the difference between Bush and Obama.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
37. The carriers are definitely better as an immediate response
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 03:57 PM
Oct 2012

Each one of them could power and water a small city on its own, and then there's things like the medical facilities, aircraft, etc.

Cruise ships would be a nice gesture, but how're you going to get them docked in that mess, never mind get a few thousand people from the other side of the disaster area to them, to say nothing of provisions and the like? That sort of thing's easier to handle from land, but the Navy's the best option for power, water and S&R right off.

DiverDave

(4,886 posts)
42. Pretty sure it was sarcasm
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 06:24 AM
Nov 2012

after Katrina, bush sent in cruise ships,at wildly inflated prices, to help out after that.
Just to compare and contrast the repuke and the Democratic response to a
natural disaster.

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