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anobserver2

(836 posts)
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:03 AM Nov 2012

Petraeus took mistress, Paula Broadwell, to Paris on government-funded trip: Report

Source: Global Post

More juicy details are emerging of the affair between CIA chief David Petraeus and his biographer, Paula Broadwell.

Ellen ConnollyNovember 12, 2012 09:50

General David Petraeus flew his mistress to Paris with him when he was appointed director of the Central Intelligence Agency, an unnamed source has claimed.

According to Buzzfeed, married biographer Paula Broadwell accompanied the esteemed military leader on a government-funded trip to the City of Lights in July 2011, while her husband cared for their two children at home.

As the fall-out from the scandal continues, family and friends are offering support to Petraeus's wife of 38 years, Holly, who is understandably embarrassed, furious and deeply hurt. ...


Read more: http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/politics/121112/petraeus-took-mistress-paula-broadwell-paris-government-funded-trip

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Petraeus took mistress, Paula Broadwell, to Paris on government-funded trip: Report (Original Post) anobserver2 Nov 2012 OP
I don't know how reliable this news really is... anobserver2 Nov 2012 #1
Pattern of unnamed sources being inaccurate toddmiller Nov 2012 #31
When you're in a high visibility, high security post, and you're married, amandabeech Nov 2012 #2
Isn't July 2011 prior to Sept 2011? anobserver2 Nov 2012 #3
Yes, this could be very bad for him. amandabeech Nov 2012 #8
I was trying to figure out if he was still... Little Star Nov 2012 #24
While pensioners with a $1000 SS check are told "they will have to share the pain..." Kolesar Nov 2012 #33
Speaking of dumb...and hauling around the mistress SoapBox Nov 2012 #10
Not on taxpayer nor campaign funds unc70 Nov 2012 #21
That Denver Speech Looks To Be A Problem DallasNE Nov 2012 #15
"Thanks Viagra, for helping keep us entertained." alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #17
Kelley and Allen affair--has that been confirmed? got a link? dixiegrrrrl Nov 2012 #28
It's True, We Just Have Smoke -- Lots Of It DallasNE Nov 2012 #29
The Plot Thickens -- Broadwell Emailed Allen DallasNE Nov 2012 #30
Also weird what judge concluded about Jilll and her sister in the custody court case anobserver2 Nov 2012 #32
Anyone getting the feeling the Media is blowing this up because they don't want to talk about Obama? Heather MC Nov 2012 #4
Too many pieces do not really fit here anobserver2 Nov 2012 #5
And then there is Paula's father's quotes anobserver2 Nov 2012 #6
From Andrea Mitchell at NBC anobserver2 Nov 2012 #7
As though the whole story is backward. Festivito Nov 2012 #14
The woman in Tampa is now named as having send and received multitudinous amandabeech Nov 2012 #12
On the plus side, it gets hard (ahem) to argue against military cuts in the sequestration alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #19
Good point, and well expressed! n/t amandabeech Nov 2012 #27
They are blowing it up because they are too simple minded Cosmocat Nov 2012 #22
A CIA employee having an affair IS news rocktivity Nov 2012 #26
Another Republican on the front lines fighting for the sanctity of marriage. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2012 #9
LOL SoapBox Nov 2012 #11
I will never understand why high profile people think they can hide dalliances. SunSeeker Nov 2012 #13
I dont agree with him being a dumbass. I do agree He is a republican bonniebgood Nov 2012 #18
It's kinda funny that the shit they say about Obama is actually true of their hero Petraeus alcibiades_mystery Nov 2012 #16
I expect Fox News to be much more outraged by this than by the Obama family trip to Paris. tanyev Nov 2012 #20
I think its preparing the ground for jebby in 2016 tibbiit Nov 2012 #23
Neocon values Kingofalldems Nov 2012 #25

anobserver2

(836 posts)
1. I don't know how reliable this news really is...
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:05 AM
Nov 2012

...it comes from this excerpt:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mhastings/the-sins-of-general-david-petraeus

Sources who long feared him have already begun to leak salacious details; one told me this weekend that he took Broadwell along with him on a government-funded trip to Paris in July 2011.

But, I would think someone could check this out.

toddmiller

(75 posts)
31. Pattern of unnamed sources being inaccurate
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:46 AM
Nov 2012

[link:https://www.impartial-review.com/stories/news-reports-of-petraues-affair-lack-consistency|
This article] identifies a number of inconsistencies in unnamed sources. For example, most newspapers report that the shirtless FBI agent was removed from the case but the NY magazine filmed 2 days ago removing boxes from the Broadwell's house.

The time lines vary with some claiming Broadwell first confessed to the affair in the summer while others put in October and NYT stated it was in September. Why would the FBI find evidence of classified info on her computer a month or more ago and then wait until 2 days ago to pick it up?

and Allen - Kelleys 20,000-30,000 pages of documents over a 3 year period? That's 18-40 emails per day. That's very bizarre or inaccurate IMO

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
2. When you're in a high visibility, high security post, and you're married,
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:16 AM
Nov 2012

it's kind of dumb to be hauling your extra-martial partner around on your employer's business.

It will be found out, and you may lose everything.

However, the only possible link to the Benghazi issue is the speech that Broadwell made to a Univ. of Denver audience that could be interpreted as claiming that the CIA Annex in B-Z was holding permanent prisoners against our President's 2009 directive. If the CIA is acting in contravention of the President, that clearly is a problem. But I think here that the story has devolved to a story pertaining solely to the prurient interest.

anobserver2

(836 posts)
3. Isn't July 2011 prior to Sept 2011?
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:30 AM
Nov 2012

I am thinking this alleged time frame is when he was still in the military - July 2011 - meaning if there was an affair at that point,
then, he was committing a crime according to news reports.

Other reports have claimed the start of this alleged affair to be Sept 2011 when he became head of the CIA.

In addition, if there was an affair, and if there was a crime being committed, I can tell you that I do not want
my taxes paying his romp in Paris. I would think that is another crime, again, if true.

So, if true -- I think this is REALLY bad news for the general.

Little Star

(17,055 posts)
24. I was trying to figure out if he was still...
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 11:53 AM
Nov 2012

in the military when he took her to Paris. Looks like he might have been. I agree, if true, this little trip sounds like bad news for him.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
33. While pensioners with a $1000 SS check are told "they will have to share the pain..."
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:44 AM
Nov 2012

"...because we are fiscally insolvent."

unc70

(6,117 posts)
21. Not on taxpayer nor campaign funds
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:41 AM
Nov 2012

Despite all the allegations, the trial showed that Edwards and Baron paid all Hunter's expenses.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
15. That Denver Speech Looks To Be A Problem
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 08:56 AM
Nov 2012

In what capacity would Broadwell have access to internal CIA operations and why would she reveal something so sensitive, perhaps classified. Indeed, why was she even speaking in Denver. Was it to sell her book. Maybe someone needs to read that book and find out what other beans she may have spilled.

Then if this is not enough, we now learn that Jill Kelley, the woman that Broadwell sent the threating email's to wasn't so innocent after all. It seems that she and the current commander in Afghanistan, Gen. Allen, have been having an affair of their own so Broadwell's concerns may have been well placed. I wondered why Kelley lawyered up at the same time as Broadwell lawyered up.

The way things are going, it would not surprise me if other women step forward with stories of their own. Thanks Viagra, for helping keep us entertained.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
28. Kelley and Allen affair--has that been confirmed? got a link?
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:21 PM
Nov 2012

I have been following the story all day and have not found any info, of confirmed affair.

It all looks pretty suspicious, for sure.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
29. It's True, We Just Have Smoke -- Lots Of It
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:03 AM
Nov 2012

I came across an article that I find interesting -- not saying it is true but it sure is interesting. And it would be super serious should it pan out.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/11/13/1161265/-Jill-Kelley-Khawam-The-Lebanese-Mata-Hari

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
30. The Plot Thickens -- Broadwell Emailed Allen
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:51 AM
Nov 2012

Warning him to steer clear of Jill Kelley. In a sense, this puts Broadwell in a good light for a change. Especially if the speculation about Kelley's intentions in the dailykos link pans out. It is also interesting how well all of these people knew one another, how to contact them personally, etc., especially considering that they had no official capacity

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-investigating-how-petraeus-biographer-broadwell-obtained-classified-files/2012/11/13/e61a5cfc-2dd5-11e2-beb2-4b4cf5087636_singlePage.html

anobserver2

(836 posts)
32. Also weird what judge concluded about Jilll and her sister in the custody court case
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:31 AM
Nov 2012

I thought something like that with respect to what is in that Kos piece you posted.
Also this:

I thought it quite weird what the judge in the child custody case concluded about
Jill and her sister. I read in a newspaper the judge did NOT award custody of the young child to the mother
(Jill's sister) in her divorce case, and instead awarded FULL custody to the father.

The reason given by the judge was this: Jill is not a credible witness (and is a liar), as Jill lied when she testified
the husband had pushed the twin sister/mother down the stairs.

So, in short, despite this testimony from Jill (which the judge says is a lie), AND as we now find out,
despite TWO character witnesses for the sisters WHO ARE IN THE US MILITARY WITH THE RANK OF GENERAL --
Jill's sister lost custody of her kid in her divorce.

Very weird and very odd, the whole thing. Because it sounds like the judge was DISMISSING the testimony of
TWO generals along with Jill's testimony.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
4. Anyone getting the feeling the Media is blowing this up because they don't want to talk about Obama?
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:32 AM
Nov 2012

I mean they are acting like this is the first highprofile man to ever cheat.
They all us Gov'ment funds for their side pieces if they can.

I guess I am just jaded to this sort of thing. but he isn't the first and he won't be the last. and my Prediction the one who is pushing this the hardest in Washington is probably cheating on his wife too!

anobserver2

(836 posts)
5. Too many pieces do not really fit here
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:35 AM
Nov 2012

I read somewhere that the woman in Tampa was a witness in her twin sister's
custody battle, and her testimony was deemed not credible, so her twin sister lost
custody of her young kid. If she is a liar, then - I am thinking there may be no emails
ever given to the FBI guy who is now deemed to have been shirtless at one time and
is not named anywhere. It seems like too many weird things are going on.

anobserver2

(836 posts)
6. And then there is Paula's father's quotes
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:37 AM
Nov 2012

And there are the statements publicly made by Paula's father. I don't know what to believe, but I think there is a lot we will never know.

anobserver2

(836 posts)
7. From Andrea Mitchell at NBC
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:41 AM
Nov 2012

Even the reporter who broke this story, Andrea Mitchell at NBC, now has this on her website:

mitchellreportsmitchellreports FBI opens probe into agent who launched probe of Jill Kelley emails for getting too close sending her shirtless emails this getting crazier

"This getting crazier" she says. It's getting too weird for her, too.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
14. As though the whole story is backward.
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 04:02 AM
Nov 2012

Like, how do they know Paula sent the emails, if someone hacked or had access to her account.

There are so many possibilities right now.

NPR tries to stop further thinking by having a reporter with a "friend" close to the sources. Questionable report.

 

amandabeech

(9,893 posts)
12. The woman in Tampa is now named as having send and received multitudinous
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 03:13 AM
Nov 2012

e-mails with the general who is now in charge of Afghanistan. Gen Allen?

It just gets weirder and weirder.

Meanwhile, there's a lot of work to be done in DC with respect to sequestration. But that's a boring topic compared to dual sex scandals.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
19. On the plus side, it gets hard (ahem) to argue against military cuts in the sequestration
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:05 AM
Nov 2012

If this is the perception of the military at the moment.

Joe Six Pack: "20,000 pages of email for the top commander in Afghanistan, and we can't cut a single fucking dime from the military budget? Really?"

Cosmocat

(14,572 posts)
22. They are blowing it up because they are too simple minded
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:04 AM
Nov 2012

to really understand what is going on, but think it is something that will negatively impact the President ...

rocktivity

(44,577 posts)
26. A CIA employee having an affair IS news
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 05:10 PM
Nov 2012

if only because he (or she) is blackmail-able by enemies foreign or (even worse) domestic.


rocktivity

SunSeeker

(51,677 posts)
13. I will never understand why high profile people think they can hide dalliances.
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 03:19 AM
Nov 2012

If this story is true, he wasn't even trying to hide it. Patraeus is either an incredible dumbass or a psychopath.

bonniebgood

(943 posts)
18. I dont agree with him being a dumbass. I do agree He is a republican
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:03 AM
Nov 2012

psychopath with lots of taxpayer money and power at his disposal.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
16. It's kinda funny that the shit they say about Obama is actually true of their hero Petraeus
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:00 AM
Nov 2012

What, a complete junket, taking a nice Paris (Paris!) vacation with your mistress?

Tsk, tsk, General.



Glad this dude was shitcanned. Should have probably been spotted and acted on earlier.

tanyev

(42,608 posts)
20. I expect Fox News to be much more outraged by this than by the Obama family trip to Paris.
Tue Nov 13, 2012, 09:24 AM
Nov 2012

Waiting......







Still waiting......



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