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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:53 PM Nov 2012

Thousands Seen Dying If Terrorists Attack ‘Vulnerable’ U.S. Grid

Source: Bloomberg

Nov. 14 (Bloomberg) -- A terrorist attack on the U.S. power grid could be more destructive than superstorm Sandy, possibly costing hundreds of billions of dollars and leading to thousands of deaths, the National Academy of Sciences said.

While such an event probably wouldn’t kill people immediately, it could cause widespread blackouts for weeks or months, according to a recently declassified report released today by the Academy. If it occurred during extreme weather, heat stress or exposure to cold may lead to “hundreds or even thousands of deaths,” the authors of the study wrote.

“An event of this magnitude and duration could lead to turmoil, widespread public fear, and an image of helplessness that would play directly into the hands of the terrorists,” they said.

While other entities have issued reports on electric-grid vulnerabilities, the study released today provides an unusually stark picture of what may happen if hackers, extremist groups, disgruntled employees or even energy companies themselves sabotage the nation’s power network. It calls for the government to create a national inventory of portable generation equipment that can be used during such an event.

An attack “could be carried out by knowledgeable attackers with little risk of detection or interdiction,” it said.



Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/business/bloomberg/article/Thousands-Seen-Dying-If-Terrorists-Attack-4037607.php

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Thousands Seen Dying If Terrorists Attack ‘Vulnerable’ U.S. Grid (Original Post) Purveyor Nov 2012 OP
Still not afraid of terrorists. Iggo Nov 2012 #1
I'm with you. randome Nov 2012 #7
You should NOT be afraid of terrorist... SkyDaddy7 Nov 2012 #8
Terrorists are just bullies -- and cowards -- at base meow2u3 Nov 2012 #11
I do respect their findings... Iggo Nov 2012 #14
We will still have marathons and yacht races. lalalu Nov 2012 #2
If this happens, Republicans bear FULL responsibility for obstructing legislation that would kestrel91316 Nov 2012 #3
Plus... SkyDaddy7 Nov 2012 #9
Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team) Dubster Nov 2012 #4
Terrorists only scare republicans... docgee Nov 2012 #5
That is NOT the point of these findings! SkyDaddy7 Nov 2012 #10
Someone is making an argument for electric supply decentralization. n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2012 #6
Just think of all the non-out sourcible ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2012 #12
And the spin-off jobs from manufacturing the hardware and wire. RC Nov 2012 #13
I wish someone would invent cheap home shingles that double as solar panels. RickFromMN Nov 2012 #15
They have but they are not cheap. Google 'solar shingles'. eom Purveyor Nov 2012 #18
Been to Long Island? One good superstorm is all it takes. aquart Nov 2012 #16
It's true, but the answer is not fear. It's decentralization of power generation. It's rooftops truthisfreedom Nov 2012 #17
Worse case scenario: Nuke Plant w/o power RobertEarl Nov 2012 #19
It will not be a 'bomb or a storm'...it will be a cyber-attack without a doubt. eom Purveyor Nov 2012 #21
Stuxnet? RobertEarl Nov 2012 #22
Katrina, Sandy daleo Nov 2012 #20

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
8. You should NOT be afraid of terrorist...
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:19 PM
Nov 2012

However, you SHOULD respect the findings of the National Academy of Science...That is unless you choose the Conservative way of going with your GUT despite the empirical evidence that says otherwise.

meow2u3

(24,771 posts)
11. Terrorists are just bullies -- and cowards -- at base
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:52 PM
Nov 2012

They're only effective unless and until you stand up to them--then they run like hell with their tails between their legs once they find out you're not afraid of them.

 

lalalu

(1,663 posts)
2. We will still have marathons and yacht races.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:58 PM
Nov 2012

So politicians don't care. Just the peasants, or in modern terms the 47 %, will be told to drop dead in their cold dark homes.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
3. If this happens, Republicans bear FULL responsibility for obstructing legislation that would
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:02 PM
Nov 2012

fund an upgrade of the grid.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
9. Plus...
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:23 PM
Nov 2012

This is not some claim by Homeland Security...Quite the opposite this comes from the National Academy of Science one of the most respected institutions in the world! Well, not by Conservative "GUT THINKERS" but by the rest of the world who understand the importance of science & going with empirical evidence not some rednecks GUT!

Your comment hit the nail on the head! I wish we could publicly shame them over their stance on anthropogenic climate change as well!!

docgee

(870 posts)
5. Terrorists only scare republicans...
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:10 PM
Nov 2012

You have a higher probability of committing suicide than to be killed by terrorism.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
10. That is NOT the point of these findings!
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 05:30 PM
Nov 2012

This was not some prediction from Homeland Security it came from the National Academy of Science hardly a bastion of Conservatism or big brother. To me denying the fact we are vulnerable & IF the day ever comes when terrorist decide to blow up our power infrastructure it might not be you who dies but it will be the most vulnerable like our grandparents or sick children. Besides that we need to improve our electrical grid to handle alternative energy sources anyway.

This was not meant to be a scare tactic it was meant to be a warning derived from empirical data...Not a Conservative gut check.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
12. Just think of all the non-out sourcible ...
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:00 PM
Nov 2012

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long-term jobs that would be created if the U.S. decided to up-grade/secure the power grid?

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
13. And the spin-off jobs from manufacturing the hardware and wire.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:15 PM
Nov 2012

The cost of training the building crews. The pay for the engineering and engineers needed. Why this could suck enough money from the wars to actually stop most of them.
No wonder the Republicans are against this.

aquart

(69,014 posts)
16. Been to Long Island? One good superstorm is all it takes.
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:37 PM
Nov 2012

Terrorists are amateurs compared to climate change.

truthisfreedom

(23,154 posts)
17. It's true, but the answer is not fear. It's decentralization of power generation. It's rooftops
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:48 PM
Nov 2012

covered completely with solar panels. Every rooftop.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
19. Worse case scenario: Nuke Plant w/o power
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:25 PM
Nov 2012

Fukushima lost grid power and the place blew sky-high.

Pumps to keep the plants cool demand great power. If the grid goes down, plants would only be able to keep cool as long as generators work under emergency conditions.

But don't worry, be happy!!

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
22. Stuxnet?
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:49 PM
Nov 2012

That was a cyber attack on the Iranian nuclear plant.

Stuxnet was theoried to also have made the Fukushima problem even worse by making the computers in the control room spit out erroneous info as to what was happening in the reactors.

I think we can keep such an attack from doing too much harm... under normal circumstances. But introduce a powerful solar storm and all bets are off.

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