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andym

(5,445 posts)
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 02:56 PM Sep 2023

Trump says it was 'my decision' to try to overturn 2020 election results

Last edited Sun Sep 17, 2023, 05:51 PM - Edit history (3)

Source: CNN

Former President Donald Trump said that he received counsel from numerous people shortly after the 2020 election but that it was his decision to push the false claim he won the presidency and try to overturn the results.
...

"You know who I listen to? Myself. I saw what happened," Trump said...

Trump says he supports mental competency tests for presidency amid concerns over age
The former president said he didn't listen to his attorneys who told him he lost the election because he didn't respect them.

"You hire them, you've never met these people, you get a recommendation, they turn out to be RINOs (Republicans in name only), or they turn out to be not so good. In many cases, I didn't respect them," Trump said. "But I did respect others. I respected many others that said the election was rigged."

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/17/politics/trump-election-results-decision/index.html



Basically he just confessed. This should guarantee a guilty verdict if justice is blind.
Who are the "many others" who agreed the election was rigged? They are are almost certainly his yes-men-and-women co-defendants in Georgia.
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Trump says it was 'my decision' to try to overturn 2020 election results (Original Post) andym Sep 2023 OP
K&R Tom Yossarian Joad Sep 2023 #1
LOCK HIM UP !! dweller Sep 2023 #2
Breakthrough???? Coming to terms with reality???? bucolic_frolic Sep 2023 #3
Hardly. Ms. Toad Sep 2023 #21
Until he says something else PortTack Sep 2023 #24
Going to claim mental incapacity. Not fit to participate in his defense. usaf-vet Sep 2023 #37
We know. Just what SC Smith wants him to continue doing...incrimination himself. brush Sep 2023 #4
Wise man Jack Smith... agingdem Sep 2023 #11
Hadn't thought of it that way. He propably is proud of... brush Sep 2023 #17
yes... agingdem Sep 2023 #27
Interesting take! electric_blue68 Sep 2023 #65
Wow the attorneys are gonna lo-o-ove that one FakeNoose Sep 2023 #5
Every time the Orange POS opens his pie hole democratsruletheday Sep 2023 #12
Baaahahahahahaaaaa... electric_blue68 Sep 2023 #64
A witless for the prosecution. twodogsbarking Sep 2023 #6
Cute! But I think this may actually be a calculated move. erronis Sep 2023 #18
All true and tfg loves the spotlight. twodogsbarking Sep 2023 #20
It appears that Trump's strategy is to RipVanWinkle Sep 2023 #58
He could not be more guilty! LymphocyteLover Sep 2023 #7
Well, jail to the chief! Warpy Sep 2023 #8
not a bad idea actually. nt orleans Sep 2023 #35
Wherever they park him he's finished. Even a psychiatric facility will get him off the street. housecat Sep 2023 #40
I certainly would not want to go through life with that diseased a mind Warpy Sep 2023 #52
Could it be a disease like DENVERPOPS Sep 2023 #77
No, he's always been that way Warpy Sep 2023 #78
Stop. Seriously. ExWhoDoesntCare Sep 2023 #81
This!.. electric_blue68 Sep 2023 #66
Too many people are in a self-made prison but don't know it. housecat Sep 2023 #73
I have a better idea jmowreader Sep 2023 #75
Baaahahahahaaaaa! Love the idea of his jail job mowing the golf course Without being able to play on electric_blue68 Sep 2023 #80
You can't demand respect, respect is earned coprolite Sep 2023 #9
Good grief... 2naSalit Sep 2023 #10
Is he pleading out? is there a deal in place? Aristus Sep 2023 #13
No run any time any place. Must be out of politics or whatever it is he does. housecat Sep 2023 #42
Keep talking, asshole dalton99a Sep 2023 #14
LOL He just lawyer-shopped 'til he found psychofants. Beartracks Sep 2023 #15
I like "psychofants." Has a ring to it. housecat Sep 2023 #44
They gotta be psycho if they expect they'll ever get paid!! Beartracks Sep 2023 #87
It was Hitler's decision to invade the rest of Europe House of Roberts Sep 2023 #16
"I only respected the ones who told me what I wanted to hear." BWdem4life Sep 2023 #19
+1 n/t area51 Sep 2023 #54
So maybe Kristen Welker wasn't so bad after all. tinrobot Sep 2023 #22
I agree. She is a smart lady. housecat Sep 2023 #45
And it's pathetic how some in social media were all over her before it aired. ificandream Sep 2023 #49
You know his attorneys' eyes are glazed over, Bayard Sep 2023 #23
Don Jr was tasked with running that briefcase full of cash over Shermann Sep 2023 #29
You sure? ExWhoDoesntCare Sep 2023 #82
Well maybe admission of guilt looks appealing to him, peacebuzzard Sep 2023 #25
He cannot stop himself from boasting. As Mary Trump said of her uncle... Hekate Sep 2023 #26
He is trying now to get off because of mental incapacity. Paper Roses Sep 2023 #28
He'll never go the insanity route ExWhoDoesntCare Sep 2023 #83
TGG: "I respected many others that said the election was rigged." LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2023 #30
The A Few Good Men moment on the witness stand. Nt yaesu Sep 2023 #31
Pendejo45 has to be Pendejo45 ... aggiesal Sep 2023 #32
Yeap. Terminal pendejo housecat Sep 2023 #46
Simpletons (incl orange) seek confirmation and don't seek contrary opinions. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2023 #33
And his lawyers are all wondering if they need to quit now Novara Sep 2023 #34
Well, that's a GUILTY CONFESSION for both Georgia & Federal indictments for election interference. iluvtennis Sep 2023 #36
And yet, he is totally free to incite violence against judges, prosecutors... Justice matters. Sep 2023 #38
I sure as hell hope something like this Doesn't happen! electric_blue68 Sep 2023 #69
Baaahahahahaaaaaa.... Ty! 👍 electric_blue68 Sep 2023 #67
Have we just now got proof of bluestarone Sep 2023 #39
Who are the "many others" ... Justice matters. Sep 2023 #41
It will be fun if he ever takes the witness stand AdamGG Sep 2023 #43
They would have to carry him out screaming housecat Sep 2023 #47
You'd love to see that 😄 electric_blue68 Sep 2023 #68
Couldn't resist housecat Sep 2023 #71
Baaahahahahahaaaaa! I was using the general "you" - I'd Love to See It, too! 😄 electric_blue68 Sep 2023 #79
Does NBC understand that they're helping to taint the jury pool? Novara Sep 2023 #48
That's OK with me. Plenty of people will not see it, like me. But they'll see it IN COURT... keopeli Sep 2023 #62
You're over-estimating the numbers of people ExWhoDoesntCare Sep 2023 #84
He only respects those who tell him what he wants to hear Kaleva Sep 2023 #50
Something wrong with that man . . . Aussie105 Sep 2023 #51
Everything is wrong with him housecat Sep 2023 #72
LOCK HIM UP...... turbinetree Sep 2023 #53
"I did it, I didn't do it." Good people. On both sides. czarjak Sep 2023 #55
Enjoy your stay at the gray bar hotel Donny boy/ Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2023 #56
Keep talking wise guy. marble falls Sep 2023 #57
I dunno EndlessWire Sep 2023 #59
You're Giving Him RobinA Sep 2023 #74
Come on ExWhoDoesntCare Sep 2023 #86
After viewing preview I pre-judged the interview, I owe Kristen a big apology.. NowsTheTime Sep 2023 #60
No you don't. It was completely accidental. This was not some brilliant tactic, planned out. msfiddlestix Sep 2023 #63
So you did the illegal electors too, all by yourself, to illegally overthrow a valid election? Sure SWBTATTReg Sep 2023 #61
If 10 scientists inform you that gravity exists RexLipton Sep 2023 #70
I don't know why we continue to do this... RevBrotherThomas Sep 2023 #76
tke the keys and lock em up, lock em up. AllaN01Bear Sep 2023 #85
Please tell me why he tonekat Sep 2023 #88

Ms. Toad

(34,092 posts)
21. Hardly.
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 03:58 PM
Sep 2023

Carefully read the quoted parts. He is admitting to being the decider. The description of what was decided is someone else's characterization of what was decided, not his description.

brush

(53,871 posts)
4. We know. Just what SC Smith wants him to continue doing...incrimination himself.
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 03:03 PM
Sep 2023

Please proceed, criminal defendant.

agingdem

(7,859 posts)
11. Wise man Jack Smith...
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 03:25 PM
Sep 2023

stop him from inciting violence, threatening prosecutors/judges and their families/witnesses...but he's free to confess...now that's the First Amendment!...

I think Donnie's malignant narcissistic ego demands he take credit for the crime of the century...a "crime like no one has as ever seen before" ...

brush

(53,871 posts)
17. Hadn't thought of it that way. He propably is proud of...
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 03:45 PM
Sep 2023

nearly overthrowing the government.

His malignant narcississism is soon going to bite himin the ass terribly hard.

agingdem

(7,859 posts)
27. yes...
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 04:28 PM
Sep 2023

on 9/11, after two planes hit the World Trade Center, Donnie bragged that now Trump Tower was the tallest building in Manhattan..and he is forever waxing poetic about the January 6 crowd size...so it stands to reason he would want to take sole credit for "his" nearly successful coup attempt to set fire to the Constitution, to self-congratulate, as it were...

12. Every time the Orange POS opens his pie hole
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 03:26 PM
Sep 2023

he incriminates himself. Like someone else just said in this thread....please proceed dummy. Kinda doubt he's ever had his miranda rights read to him but if so, he's chosen to ignore the right to remain silent. Again....proceed ass hat.

electric_blue68

(14,934 posts)
64. Baaahahahahahaaaaa...
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 07:22 AM
Sep 2023

Last edited Mon Sep 18, 2023, 03:49 PM - Edit history (1)

democratsruletheday:

"but if so, he's chosen to ignore the right to remain silent."


😄😄😄😄😄 👍


He's so awful - you have to laugh sometimes they keep from crying. 👍

erronis

(15,335 posts)
18. Cute! But I think this may actually be a calculated move.
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 03:50 PM
Sep 2023

They are not expecting that logical justice will prevail. They want to rile up as many as they can.

"They" is much larger than tffg, has a lot more $$$, wants to own/pwn the US.

Warpy

(111,351 posts)
8. Well, jail to the chief!
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 03:09 PM
Sep 2023

His jail should be his NYC penthouse, where security would be a fairly inexpensive breeze. He'd have no access to any electronic device but his dishwasher and laundry facilities. Communication would be restricted to a closed service to his guards, only. Reassure his followers it's the lap of luxury.

It's too dangerous to the country to allow anything else, really.

A gilt and marble prison is still a prison.

housecat

(3,121 posts)
40. Wherever they park him he's finished. Even a psychiatric facility will get him off the street.
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 05:51 PM
Sep 2023

His body is his forever prison and the only way out is....well you know. Death

Warpy

(111,351 posts)
52. I certainly would not want to go through life with that diseased a mind
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 07:22 PM
Sep 2023

He knows people are loyal not because they like him but because they're afraid of what his money can do to them.

Ugh.

Warpy

(111,351 posts)
78. No, he's always been that way
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 02:11 PM
Sep 2023

It's why his brother Fred dumped a bowl of mashed potatoes over his head when they were kids and why his parents had to pack him off to military school when he was a teenager.

It's called malignant narcissism and it's the worst form of the worst personality disorder out there.

Tertiary syphilis first presents as kind of a permanent happy drunk and slowly progresses to paranoid delusions and worse as the sores appear, eat into bone, and the pain is unrelenting. The last case I've seen was in the 80s, the happy drunk stage. The patient was glad we could stop the progression but wanted to keep enjoying life. We reassured her the antibiotics wouldn't sober her up.

TFG has always enjoyed the finest medical care his daddy's money could buy, so there's no way he'd go past the first stage, the skin rash and chancre. Given his habit of mauling any woman he caught alone anywhere, he's probably needed antibiotics more than once.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
81. Stop. Seriously.
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 04:03 PM
Sep 2023

If you knew anything about tertiary syphilis, you would know that anyone in that stage of the disease is incapable of a public life. Besides, even if he'd had syphilis at all, that hack doctor of his would have picked up on it and treated it, long ago.

He's stupid and an arsehole, but he doesn't present as tertiary syphilis--and never has.

Stop assigning things to him that malignant narcissism explains perfectly well.

electric_blue68

(14,934 posts)
66. This!..
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 07:31 AM
Sep 2023

Warpy:

"A gilt and marble prison is still a prison."


Either I thought about posting something like this in another thread, or I actually did a few+ days ago regarding ?minimum security, the fancier prison who's general ?nickname I can't quite recall....
possibly - ?"country club" prison.

If you can't choose to freely walk out of a place no matter how "nice" it is - it's a prison.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
75. I have a better idea
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 12:26 PM
Sep 2023

His jail can be a two-bedroom house on Joint Base Lewis-McChord, WA. After he croaks they can use it as quarters for a staff sergeant and his family. His jail job can be mowing the golf course, but he will never be allowed to play golf.

electric_blue68

(14,934 posts)
80. Baaahahahahaaaaa! Love the idea of his jail job mowing the golf course Without being able to play on
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 04:03 PM
Sep 2023

...it!.



As for an army person & family living there next; first it would need a fumigation service, a major sage smudging, perhaps several kinds of other religious ceremonies to cast out demons, and bad spirits, etc, etc!

coprolite

(182 posts)
9. You can't demand respect, respect is earned
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 03:16 PM
Sep 2023

You don't have to respect your lawyers, but you should respect the law. If you don't respect the laws, you are nothing but a criminal.

Aristus

(66,462 posts)
13. Is he pleading out? is there a deal in place?
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 03:38 PM
Sep 2023

No run in 2024 in exchange for supervised release? Monday open-of-business is twenty hours away. Let's see something happen...

Beartracks

(12,821 posts)
15. LOL He just lawyer-shopped 'til he found psychofants.
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 03:40 PM
Sep 2023

Sorry, I meant sycofants. Clearly.

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House of Roberts

(5,184 posts)
16. It was Hitler's decision to invade the rest of Europe
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 03:45 PM
Sep 2023

and kill Jews, but everybody who threw in with him were guilty too.

tinrobot

(10,916 posts)
22. So maybe Kristen Welker wasn't so bad after all.
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 04:00 PM
Sep 2023

A few "Mr. Presidents" go a long way with that pathetic man.

I think she knew that flattering him was key to getting admissions of guilt like this.

ificandream

(9,387 posts)
49. And it's pathetic how some in social media were all over her before it aired.
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 06:13 PM
Sep 2023

Some people can't wait to open their mouths. It's a symptom of Trumpitis.

Bayard

(22,154 posts)
23. You know his attorneys' eyes are glazed over,
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 04:02 PM
Sep 2023

And they are slowly shaking their heads.

Hope they got their money up front!

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
82. You sure?
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 04:07 PM
Sep 2023

I have a feeling that if Don Jr got that much cash in his grubby little paws, the only place he'd run to is his coke dealer.

peacebuzzard

(5,183 posts)
25. Well maybe admission of guilt looks appealing to him,
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 04:17 PM
Sep 2023

if he even remotely considered the seriousness of the situation.
However, something tells me he does not consider anything at all; after all, he is a narcissist.

Hekate

(90,824 posts)
26. He cannot stop himself from boasting. As Mary Trump said of her uncle...
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 04:21 PM
Sep 2023

… (quoting, as I just discovered, Alice Roosevelt Longworth speaking of her own father, Pres. Theodore Roosevelt) —
“Donald wants to be the corpse at every funeral, the bride at every wedding and the baby at every christening.”

Trump simply cannot shut up about his being the center of the universe, the prime mover of all things, even if it ultimately leads to his own annihilation. Which, may I pray, happens soon.


Paper Roses

(7,475 posts)
28. He is trying now to get off because of mental incapacity.
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 04:28 PM
Sep 2023

What lawyer told him to try this BS? He is incapacitated but this is no excuse to void his responsibility.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
83. He'll never go the insanity route
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 04:10 PM
Sep 2023

His malignant narcissism would never allow it. He is literally incapable of admitting to being wrong, or less than wonderful and perfect in every way.

30. TGG: "I respected many others that said the election was rigged."
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 04:38 PM
Sep 2023

The former president also said he didn't listen to his attorneys who told him he lost the election because he didn't respect them.

i.e., He only listened to those who agreed with him. Everyone else was incompetent.







aggiesal

(8,923 posts)
32. Pendejo45 has to be Pendejo45 ...
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 04:42 PM
Sep 2023

What an idiot?
Is he daring Jack Smith to use this statement?
Because Smith will.

Novara

(5,851 posts)
34. And his lawyers are all wondering if they need to quit now
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 05:09 PM
Sep 2023

What a fucking moron.

Jack Smith probably has this in a loop and is playing it over and over again because it's so satisfying when a criminal admits they committed the crime for which they are charged.

Justice matters.

(6,941 posts)
38. And yet, he is totally free to incite violence against judges, prosecutors...
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 05:45 PM
Sep 2023

... and their family, election-worker volunteers, expected witnesses (of his crimes), et al.

Totally free to run his filthy mouth and post inanities all day long and deep into the night.

What if something bad happens to any one or two of his targets? Who will be blamed for not locking him up earlier, like any other criminal defendant who would behave like he does?? And how would they be able to sleep peacefully at night for the rest of their life feeling the guilt of not preventing him from inciting the violent incident(s)?

AdamGG

(1,295 posts)
43. It will be fun if he ever takes the witness stand
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 05:52 PM
Sep 2023

It would make Jack Nicholson, "You can't handle the truth" seem like exemplary witness behavior by comparison.

electric_blue68

(14,934 posts)
79. Baaahahahahahaaaaa! I was using the general "you" - I'd Love to See It, too! 😄
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 03:46 PM
Sep 2023

I give you a fabulous, tangential (but rather appropriate) meme, that I haven't seen in a good while, but has totaly stuck with me...

Playground.
Mother with a flailing toddler tucked under her arm leaving the place.

Text: ( la close approximation)
At some point you will carry a
screaming demon child from the playground.

Omg!


I suppose to transfer this to a court based setting re: drumphf; approximately:

At some you will
(where's du4 when you need it!😉 ) escort drag a Screaming Demon Client (in cuffs) from the courtroom.

🤔 I do believe that could possibly describe drumphf's behavior under the "right" circumstances.

Novara

(5,851 posts)
48. Does NBC understand that they're helping to taint the jury pool?
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 06:07 PM
Sep 2023

I'm betting the defense moves to strike everyone who watched him admit to the crime on national TV.

keopeli

(3,525 posts)
62. That's OK with me. Plenty of people will not see it, like me. But they'll see it IN COURT...
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 12:22 AM
Sep 2023

But they'll see it IN COURT as evidence AGAINST him!

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
84. You're over-estimating the numbers of people
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 04:15 PM
Sep 2023

Who care about politics enough to notice this.

And even that far exceeds the number of people who know that MTP exists. The average American who does know about it sees it only as that show they hop over on the telly dial when they're channel surfing for Sunday sports matchups.

czarjak

(11,296 posts)
55. "I did it, I didn't do it." Good people. On both sides.
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 07:44 PM
Sep 2023

Funny how "strong, powerful denials" were good enough for Vlad.

EndlessWire

(6,569 posts)
59. I dunno
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 10:15 PM
Sep 2023

There's a reason for everything. There's a reason he said that. That wasn't confusion or a mistake.

He is busy manipulating the Courts and the media, and public opinion. He is playing the long game, or at least a medium game. It seems to me that he is maneuvering to throw someone under the bus for his own benefit. It will amount to nothing by the time he is finished or has to face the music.

But, for the moment, he has said it. Will anybody else ask him about the remarks? I doubt it. Instead, he will finetune it and regurgitate whatever he needs to go with it at his next rally speech.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
74. You're Giving Him
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 11:49 AM
Sep 2023

way too much credit. No, it wasn't confusion or a mistake. It was Trump being Trump, telling the world what a smart guy he is. He's smarter than his lawyers, doncha know. He can't stop himself.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
86. Come on
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 04:25 PM
Sep 2023

This guy doesn't know long or medium game. He's too stupid for it. All he really knows is the here and now. He may have an idea of what he wants in the future, but is utterly clueless about how to get there. He leave the hard work of that to minions.

He's not like a cat, who understands things like upwind/downwind, getting into position, waiting, and so on to get prey. He's a shark--he doesn't know anything about how to find prey. He just swims around until he happens upon something he can eat, and then he attacks. But as for thinking through finding it, prepping for it, waiting for it?

Nope. Doesn't happen. Sharks don't need strategy or tactics, when they have brute force.

NowsTheTime

(698 posts)
60. After viewing preview I pre-judged the interview, I owe Kristen a big apology..
Sun Sep 17, 2023, 11:23 PM
Sep 2023

....put him in the spotlight and play to his ego....l

msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
63. No you don't. It was completely accidental. This was not some brilliant tactic, planned out.
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 06:56 AM
Sep 2023

She's who you thought she was.

And it won't be long before you see or hear her being that breathless bothsiderism queen of press reporters with a special seat at the table now.

SWBTATTReg

(22,166 posts)
61. So you did the illegal electors too, all by yourself, to illegally overthrow a valid election? Sure
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 12:07 AM
Sep 2023

sounds like it.

You've already failed the aptitude test by confusing Obama w/ running against you multiple times.

Idiot.

RexLipton

(69 posts)
70. If 10 scientists inform you that gravity exists
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 11:08 AM
Sep 2023

and you toss someone off a building because you don't believe them, you're guilty of both murder and stupidity*.





* not a legal defense strategy

RevBrotherThomas

(838 posts)
76. I don't know why we continue to do this...
Mon Sep 18, 2023, 01:01 PM
Sep 2023

The painstaking fact checking of a habitual and chronic bullshit artist doesn't hurt him in the slightest. His minions don't read anything beyond what can be produced in a large print brochure fleecing them for money.

I mean I understand the spirit behind the fact checking - and some of it was good for a laugh once upon a time - but it is pointless.

The old warning of never getting into a chess match with a pigeon; no matter how well you play, the pigeon will knock over the pieces, shit on the board, and claim victory.

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