Trump says it was 'my decision' to try to overturn 2020 election results
Last edited Sun Sep 17, 2023, 05:51 PM - Edit history (3)
Source: CNN
Former President Donald Trump said that he received counsel from numerous people shortly after the 2020 election but that it was his decision to push the false claim he won the presidency and try to overturn the results.
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"You know who I listen to? Myself. I saw what happened," Trump said...
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The former president said he didn't listen to his attorneys who told him he lost the election because he didn't respect them.
"You hire them, you've never met these people, you get a recommendation, they turn out to be RINOs (Republicans in name only), or they turn out to be not so good. In many cases, I didn't respect them," Trump said. "But I did respect others. I respected many others that said the election was rigged."
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/17/politics/trump-election-results-decision/index.html
Basically he just confessed. This should guarantee a guilty verdict if justice is blind.
Who are the "many others" who agreed the election was rigged? They are are almost certainly his yes-men-and-women co-defendants in Georgia.
Tom Yossarian Joad
(19,231 posts)dweller
(23,662 posts)Now
✌🏻
bucolic_frolic
(43,295 posts)Ms. Toad
(34,092 posts)Carefully read the quoted parts. He is admitting to being the decider. The description of what was decided is someone else's characterization of what was decided, not his description.
PortTack
(32,794 posts)usaf-vet
(6,209 posts)brush
(53,871 posts)Please proceed, criminal defendant.
agingdem
(7,859 posts)stop him from inciting violence, threatening prosecutors/judges and their families/witnesses...but he's free to confess...now that's the First Amendment!...
I think Donnie's malignant narcissistic ego demands he take credit for the crime of the century...a "crime like no one has as ever seen before" ...
brush
(53,871 posts)nearly overthrowing the government.
His malignant narcississism is soon going to bite himin the ass terribly hard.
on 9/11, after two planes hit the World Trade Center, Donnie bragged that now Trump Tower was the tallest building in Manhattan..and he is forever waxing poetic about the January 6 crowd size...so it stands to reason he would want to take sole credit for "his" nearly successful coup attempt to set fire to the Constitution, to self-congratulate, as it were...
electric_blue68
(14,934 posts)FakeNoose
(32,767 posts)democratsruletheday
(504 posts)he incriminates himself. Like someone else just said in this thread....please proceed dummy. Kinda doubt he's ever had his miranda rights read to him but if so, he's chosen to ignore the right to remain silent. Again....proceed ass hat.
electric_blue68
(14,934 posts)Last edited Mon Sep 18, 2023, 03:49 PM - Edit history (1)
democratsruletheday:"but if so, he's chosen to ignore the right to remain silent."
😄😄😄😄😄 👍
He's so awful - you have to laugh sometimes they keep from crying. 👍
twodogsbarking
(9,814 posts)erronis
(15,335 posts)They are not expecting that logical justice will prevail. They want to rile up as many as they can.
"They" is much larger than tffg, has a lot more $$$, wants to own/pwn the US.
twodogsbarking
(9,814 posts)RipVanWinkle
(233 posts)taint the jury pool and go for a one-person jury nullification.
LymphocyteLover
(5,654 posts)Warpy
(111,351 posts)His jail should be his NYC penthouse, where security would be a fairly inexpensive breeze. He'd have no access to any electronic device but his dishwasher and laundry facilities. Communication would be restricted to a closed service to his guards, only. Reassure his followers it's the lap of luxury.
It's too dangerous to the country to allow anything else, really.
A gilt and marble prison is still a prison.
orleans
(34,073 posts)housecat
(3,121 posts)His body is his forever prison and the only way out is....well you know. Death
Warpy
(111,351 posts)He knows people are loyal not because they like him but because they're afraid of what his money can do to them.
Ugh.
DENVERPOPS
(8,845 posts)Tertiary Syphilis??????
Warpy
(111,351 posts)It's why his brother Fred dumped a bowl of mashed potatoes over his head when they were kids and why his parents had to pack him off to military school when he was a teenager.
It's called malignant narcissism and it's the worst form of the worst personality disorder out there.
Tertiary syphilis first presents as kind of a permanent happy drunk and slowly progresses to paranoid delusions and worse as the sores appear, eat into bone, and the pain is unrelenting. The last case I've seen was in the 80s, the happy drunk stage. The patient was glad we could stop the progression but wanted to keep enjoying life. We reassured her the antibiotics wouldn't sober her up.
TFG has always enjoyed the finest medical care his daddy's money could buy, so there's no way he'd go past the first stage, the skin rash and chancre. Given his habit of mauling any woman he caught alone anywhere, he's probably needed antibiotics more than once.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)If you knew anything about tertiary syphilis, you would know that anyone in that stage of the disease is incapable of a public life. Besides, even if he'd had syphilis at all, that hack doctor of his would have picked up on it and treated it, long ago.
He's stupid and an arsehole, but he doesn't present as tertiary syphilis--and never has.
Stop assigning things to him that malignant narcissism explains perfectly well.
electric_blue68
(14,934 posts)Warpy:
"A gilt and marble prison is still a prison."
Either I thought about posting something like this in another thread, or I actually did a few+ days ago regarding ?minimum security, the fancier prison who's general ?nickname I can't quite recall....
possibly - ?"country club" prison.
If you can't choose to freely walk out of a place no matter how "nice" it is - it's a prison.
housecat
(3,121 posts)jmowreader
(50,562 posts)His jail can be a two-bedroom house on Joint Base Lewis-McChord, WA. After he croaks they can use it as quarters for a staff sergeant and his family. His jail job can be mowing the golf course, but he will never be allowed to play golf.
electric_blue68
(14,934 posts)...it!.
As for an army person & family living there next; first it would need a fumigation service, a major sage smudging, perhaps several kinds of other religious ceremonies to cast out demons, and bad spirits, etc, etc!
coprolite
(182 posts)You don't have to respect your lawyers, but you should respect the law. If you don't respect the laws, you are nothing but a criminal.
2naSalit
(86,794 posts)Are we there yet?
Aristus
(66,462 posts)No run in 2024 in exchange for supervised release? Monday open-of-business is twenty hours away. Let's see something happen...
housecat
(3,121 posts)dalton99a
(81,590 posts)Beartracks
(12,821 posts)Sorry, I meant sycofants. Clearly.
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housecat
(3,121 posts)Beartracks
(12,821 posts)House of Roberts
(5,184 posts)and kill Jews, but everybody who threw in with him were guilty too.
BWdem4life
(1,695 posts)lol duh
area51
(11,921 posts)tinrobot
(10,916 posts)A few "Mr. Presidents" go a long way with that pathetic man.
I think she knew that flattering him was key to getting admissions of guilt like this.
housecat
(3,121 posts)ificandream
(9,387 posts)Some people can't wait to open their mouths. It's a symptom of Trumpitis.
Bayard
(22,154 posts)And they are slowly shaking their heads.
Hope they got their money up front!
Shermann
(7,440 posts)They are as good as paid!
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)I have a feeling that if Don Jr got that much cash in his grubby little paws, the only place he'd run to is his coke dealer.
peacebuzzard
(5,183 posts)if he even remotely considered the seriousness of the situation.
However, something tells me he does not consider anything at all; after all, he is a narcissist.
Hekate
(90,824 posts)
(quoting, as I just discovered, Alice Roosevelt Longworth speaking of her own father, Pres. Theodore Roosevelt)
Donald wants to be the corpse at every funeral, the bride at every wedding and the baby at every christening.
Trump simply cannot shut up about his being the center of the universe, the prime mover of all things, even if it ultimately leads to his own annihilation. Which, may I pray, happens soon.
Paper Roses
(7,475 posts)What lawyer told him to try this BS? He is incapacitated but this is no excuse to void his responsibility.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)His malignant narcissism would never allow it. He is literally incapable of admitting to being wrong, or less than wonderful and perfect in every way.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,595 posts)The former president also said he didn't listen to his attorneys who told him he lost the election because he didn't respect them.
i.e., He only listened to those who agreed with him. Everyone else was incompetent.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)aggiesal
(8,923 posts)What an idiot?
Is he daring Jack Smith to use this statement?
Because Smith will.
housecat
(3,121 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,043 posts)Novara
(5,851 posts)What a fucking moron.
Jack Smith probably has this in a loop and is playing it over and over again because it's so satisfying when a criminal admits they committed the crime for which they are charged.
iluvtennis
(19,874 posts)Justice matters.
(6,941 posts)... and their family, election-worker volunteers, expected witnesses (of his crimes), et al.
Totally free to run his filthy mouth and post inanities all day long and deep into the night.
What if something bad happens to any one or two of his targets? Who will be blamed for not locking him up earlier, like any other criminal defendant who would behave like he does?? And how would they be able to sleep peacefully at night for the rest of their life feeling the guilt of not preventing him from inciting the violent incident(s)?
electric_blue68
(14,934 posts)electric_blue68
(14,934 posts)bluestarone
(17,043 posts)INSURRECTION? Sounds like it to me.
Justice matters.
(6,941 posts)His unindicted (yet) co-conspirators. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6?
AdamGG
(1,295 posts)It would make Jack Nicholson, "You can't handle the truth" seem like exemplary witness behavior by comparison.
housecat
(3,121 posts)electric_blue68
(14,934 posts)housecat
(3,121 posts)electric_blue68
(14,934 posts)I give you a fabulous, tangential (but rather appropriate) meme, that I haven't seen in a good while, but has totaly stuck with me...
Playground.
Mother with a flailing toddler tucked under her arm leaving the place.
Text: ( la close approximation)
At some point you will carry a
screaming demon child from the playground.
Omg!
I suppose to transfer this to a court based setting re: drumphf; approximately:
At some you will
(where's du4 when you need it!😉 ) escort drag a Screaming Demon Client (in cuffs) from the courtroom.
🤔 I do believe that could possibly describe drumphf's behavior under the "right" circumstances.
Novara
(5,851 posts)I'm betting the defense moves to strike everyone who watched him admit to the crime on national TV.
keopeli
(3,525 posts)But they'll see it IN COURT as evidence AGAINST him!
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)Who care about politics enough to notice this.
And even that far exceeds the number of people who know that MTP exists. The average American who does know about it sees it only as that show they hop over on the telly dial when they're channel surfing for Sunday sports matchups.
Kaleva
(36,351 posts)Aussie105
(5,436 posts)But keep talking!
Clear case of lawyer shopping.
housecat
(3,121 posts)turbinetree
(24,720 posts)czarjak
(11,296 posts)Funny how "strong, powerful denials" were good enough for Vlad.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,212 posts)marble falls
(57,240 posts)EndlessWire
(6,569 posts)There's a reason for everything. There's a reason he said that. That wasn't confusion or a mistake.
He is busy manipulating the Courts and the media, and public opinion. He is playing the long game, or at least a medium game. It seems to me that he is maneuvering to throw someone under the bus for his own benefit. It will amount to nothing by the time he is finished or has to face the music.
But, for the moment, he has said it. Will anybody else ask him about the remarks? I doubt it. Instead, he will finetune it and regurgitate whatever he needs to go with it at his next rally speech.
RobinA
(9,894 posts)way too much credit. No, it wasn't confusion or a mistake. It was Trump being Trump, telling the world what a smart guy he is. He's smarter than his lawyers, doncha know. He can't stop himself.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)This guy doesn't know long or medium game. He's too stupid for it. All he really knows is the here and now. He may have an idea of what he wants in the future, but is utterly clueless about how to get there. He leave the hard work of that to minions.
He's not like a cat, who understands things like upwind/downwind, getting into position, waiting, and so on to get prey. He's a shark--he doesn't know anything about how to find prey. He just swims around until he happens upon something he can eat, and then he attacks. But as for thinking through finding it, prepping for it, waiting for it?
Nope. Doesn't happen. Sharks don't need strategy or tactics, when they have brute force.
NowsTheTime
(698 posts)....put him in the spotlight and play to his ego....l
msfiddlestix
(7,286 posts)She's who you thought she was.
And it won't be long before you see or hear her being that breathless bothsiderism queen of press reporters with a special seat at the table now.
SWBTATTReg
(22,166 posts)sounds like it.
You've already failed the aptitude test by confusing Obama w/ running against you multiple times.
Idiot.
RexLipton
(69 posts)and you toss someone off a building because you don't believe them, you're guilty of both murder and stupidity*.
* not a legal defense strategy
RevBrotherThomas
(838 posts)The painstaking fact checking of a habitual and chronic bullshit artist doesn't hurt him in the slightest. His minions don't read anything beyond what can be produced in a large print brochure fleecing them for money.
I mean I understand the spirit behind the fact checking - and some of it was good for a laugh once upon a time - but it is pointless.
The old warning of never getting into a chess match with a pigeon; no matter how well you play, the pigeon will knock over the pieces, shit on the board, and claim victory.
AllaN01Bear
(18,423 posts)tonekat
(1,820 posts)is still stumbling around, free? He confessed!