Jesse Jackson Jr. To Resign.....
Source: Chicago Tribune
Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. will announce his resignation from Congress today in a letter to House Speaker John Boehner, Jackson's brother Jonathan Jackson said.
He spoke to the Chicago Tribune by telephone.
The congressman could not be reached for confirmation. Boehner's office also could not be immediately reached.
Jackson, 47, a South Side Democrat, has been treated for bipolar depression and has been on a medical leave from Congress since June. He has been under investigation by federal authorities for alleged misuse of campaign dollars and also has faced a congressional ethics probe.
Read more: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-brother-rep-jackson-to-announce-resignation-20121121,0,3302727.story
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Panasonic
(2,921 posts)Any takers?
Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)No chance of it becoming Republican.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,340 posts)... then the district should be safe for any Democrat.
Unless the Repubs finance one Republican and five Democrats in a runoff. Split the "D" vote, and sneak an "R" into the House.
former9thward
(32,009 posts)There will be a D primary and a R primary. The two will face each other. It has been at least 20 years since the Rs have funded any candidate in that district so the D winner will walk in.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Hope though his career is resurrected soon.
Shame in 1990's that Jerry Brown and Rev. Jesse Jackson did not make the White House as a team.
I am still wondering how Patrick Fitz sleeps at night? He seemed to forget to prosecute someone else who was in his reach.
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)You mean, by himself?
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)no one was responsible for Junior's mistakes but himself
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)If is has been suffering from mental illness. that is not a "mistake", although he may have made other mistakes.
Nonetheless, a seat in Congress is not a birthright. I'm all for treating mental illness with compassion, but that doesn't including keeping a Congressional seat open for you. There are plenty of other things he can do with his life.
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)that has nothing to do with his mistakes which he did make
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)graham4anything
(11,464 posts)One nation under Obama with peace and liberty for all times sake.
Pardon Jesse Jackson's son, or commute his sentence.
One nation forever under Obama.
frylock
(34,825 posts)do you think he should have been allowed to break the law with impunity?
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)And I see no law having been broken.
Same with Rodney B.
Commute Rodney B.sentence too. He is a really nice guy.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)that pretty much makes him guilty. Regardless, do you think he would resign if he weren't guilty.
The Feds have him pretty much cold.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)I always if I were on a jury would vote in those cases NOT GUILTY.
Don't even care if I heard any evidence.
My vote would be constant.
because of history.
and being from NYC, and watching the news year in year out (50 shots here, 41 shots there, etc.) well, If I were a juror in a case like that, I know what my verdict would ring out loud and true.
btw
Elliott Spitzer and Jim McGreevey resigned. Both were not guilty of anything. Neither was OJ Simpson.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)Jim McGreevey resigned because of the scandal and he realized that the rest of his term would be about his coming out.
So your saying no matter how strong the evidence is, you would vote not guilty?
It's people like you that make the justice system not work.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)So he was said to have paid for sex. Then arrest everyone in Las Vegas. Are you a prude?
NOT GUILTY
btw, are you judge, jury executioner?
You cannot say anyone not tried and sentenced by a jury and a judge is guilty of anything
and you must admit, OJ Simpson was found innocent of all charges. NOT GUILTY
(and I myself would have ruled that too.)
I would have ruled against that white haired old cop though if he were on trial, especially if they brought up his past oddities including mishandling the Sharon Tate murders.
WooWooWoo
(454 posts)when he cheated on his wife, with a man, at a truckstop. If that's not a scandal then you don't watch much news.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)What scandal?
Love is a beautiful thing. Just wish the other guy had also been in love.
A broken heart is the cruelest thing to happen to a lover.
But then, because of Gay haters, that is how Mathew Shepard got strung up and lynched.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)Answer-nothing.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)And I answered Spitzer and McGreevey. Neither was guilty.
by the way - NEITHER WAS NIXON for your information.
Lots of people resign without being guilty of anything at all
So if you don't like me mentioning Spitzer and McGreevey, don't make innuendos about nobody resigning without being found guilty and then not wanting to hear a zillion answers proving you wrong.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)if you took just 3 seconds and googled it, you wouldn't look so foolish.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/11/jesse-jackson-jr-plea-dea_n_2114081.html
And now he has resigned.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)A shame too, because he was really working on some of the corruption problems. Good guy, made a mistake/had an itch, whatever you want to call it, but he admitted it and resigned before the legislature could impeach him for it.
As a public officer (and a DA) what he did was illegal, and cannot be overlooked. Want to fix it? Change the law.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)a few days or a week or two after, I happened to be walking in NYC on the upper east side and saw him and his wife, walking non-chalantley hand in hand kissing like teenagers.
I am no longer in the conspiracy theory business.
However, for the life of me, the two did not look like their was a scandal just a few weeks earlier.
It looked more like a threat had passed and their safety now assured or something.
(i.e.-like he was set up and forced to admit to something not true, by the Bush PTB.)
almost as if the secret that might have been exposed had nothing to do with him at all.
He just copped to it to protect someone else.
because there were no cameras around. There were no people but regular NYers in the area.
NO reporters around.
Just 2 lovebirds in love walking in Central Park.
and no, I did not imagine it
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)His departure from office never sat right with me either.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)but I don't, why would he admit to it? Eliot Spitzer is a very forceful, intelligent, no nonsense man and politician who couldn't be intimidated. That's why I believe that he did do it.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)I don't believe it was an issue with his wife either. Some marriages are like that, privately if not publicly.
The timing of the 'discovery' of him as one of the patrons seemed overly auspicious.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)I see where you're going with this.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)I thought you said you were no longer in the conspiracy theory business.
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)and those high powered individuals he was going after did him in. I still think he was one of the good guys. I don't think he sould have resigned over a relationship with a paid sex worker. Geez. That seems just ridiculous. I truly hope he goes back into politics because he really cares about the people.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)Last edited Wed Nov 21, 2012, 05:15 PM - Edit history (1)
of Armed Robbery and Kidnapping.
The scandal with Jim McGreevey was him still being married and seeing men at the same time, I never said it was a crime, on the contrary, I'm glad for him that he was able to be honest about himself and finally tell his wife.
Judge, Jury and Executioner? WTF do you come up with this nonsense?
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)What were you reading? The rag with batboy in it?
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)Whe the hell are you talking about? Where did I say that OJ was sleeping with a man?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Since you wrote that sentence immediately after one about OJ - it may have seemed like the "him" in question was Simpson.
I'll concede that and fix it, thanks.
But, given this posters history, I suspect that he knew exactly what I meant.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I get what you are saying about the poster history now though. Hadn't seen all the other nonsense.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)you play the Intertubes like a pro 
BlueMan Votes
(903 posts)wait- let me guess...another case of the white man keeping the black man down?
oldbanjo
(690 posts)glacierbay
(2,477 posts)not quite sure what to make of it, it might be to get him to accept the plea deal and part of the deal would be that his wife would be off limits.
Regardless, he did resign today and that's pretty damning in of itself.
I'm just glad he did the right thing and denied the repukes an issue to hammer us with.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)"or commute his sentence"?
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)It is a shame, but if he is guilty than it is of his own making.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)glacierbay
(2,477 posts)is being lynched? That's really offensive to those that were actually lynched, this is a vile offensive post and should be edited or deleted.
Shame on you.
cali
(114,904 posts)disgusting and ignorant of the horrors of lynching. This is about as much of a lynching as the faux fucking "high tech lynching" of Clarence Thomas.
It's a vile, dishonest shameful claim.
Sick and sickening.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Rev. Jackson's son should of said FU and stayed, like Charlie Rangel did.
Another one they have tried to lynch but couldn't.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)that's fucking brilliant, let's give the repukes something to beat us up on and then when JJJ was convicted and removed from the House, that would look real good for our side.
BTW, no one is being lynched and your equating this to a real lynching is repugnent and vile.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)glacierbay
(2,477 posts)it's about Jr., quit trying to hijack the thread and get back to the subject.
Why do you want to give the repukes an issue to beat us up on? Jr. is getting ready to plea to a deal, that would make him guilty, he is probably going to spend some time in prison, so why would you want him to hang on to his seat when he would be removed anyway?
By resigning, he short circuited the repukes on an issue.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)It's a simple yes and no question
something you have asked me about 110 times in the 100% of the posts I made in the gunny place that were all anti-NRA and anti-gun.
If you or your buds say that someone who is guilty is guilty or quits must be guilty, then I am asking you this Thanksgiving season, when people talk pardons/commutings
is Siegleman guilty or not guilty
Does Siegleman deserve to be in jail or doesn't he?
Our law is our law.
And you don't have to be black to be lynched as Mathew Shepard and Sieglman have found out.
Same people want Susan Rice to quit too
How many lynchings do we need in America?
Was Rodney King given what he deserved too?
Reminds me of the vigillante in Florida that killed an unarmed innocent kid that might have cured cancer in the coming years, but is now dead.
Trayvon Martin was lynched.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)Try to stick to the topic at hand.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)then I give you hundreds of examples and you say stay on subject
you can't have it both ways
I support someone unconditionally. Forever. My love is not fly by night.
(sort of like how an NRA man will support the NRA 100% of the time, whether they are correct or not, or
how the NYC cops support the blue wall of silence no matter if someone shoots an innocent man 50 times or not) like they raped that Dialo in the police station
Me, I will support Rev. Jackson and his family. Rev. Jackson after all was on the terrace with Dr. King that fateful day in Memphis.
This is no crime at all.
But then Siegelman is in jail for years and years. Guess he deserved it, as he was found guilty, eh?
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)support Jr and family, who said you can't?
Meanwhile, he resigned yesterday as part of possible plea deal and he's probably going to prison for misuse of campaign funds, which is a big no no.
What does the NRA or the NYPD have to do with any of this? What does Sr. being on the balcony with Dr. King that day have to do with this?
Your posts are getting more bizzare with each passing day.
24601
(3,962 posts)Jackson from Office.
Lynching has a specific definition. Given that he's still alive, your usage is inaccurate and inappropriate.
And, when we tolerate unethical, perhaps illegal behavior from Democrats, we only bolster the Republicans.
BlueMan Votes
(903 posts)He'd be rightfully pilloried in the press, and it would give the republicans an excuse to continue their obstruction.
triple-j is an asshat-and-a-half, and never should have run for re-election in the first place.
the voice that will replace his and congressperson will also be black- but it might not be male.
good riddance.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)I am sure his condition will be taken into account at sentencing.
You can't give people a pass for this type of thing just because of their race, but mental illness is very real and may in his case be a strongly contributing cause. I don't know the particulars.
One can have sympathy, but one cannot say that this sort of thing is acceptable. Let's just quote the gentleman himself:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-34222_162-57553250-10391739/rep-jesse-jackson-jr-resigns/
cali
(114,904 posts)He's a fucking crooked politician. You remind me deeply of denizens of a certain website.
Now Jackson can concentrate on making the best plea deal he can get and ensuring that he receives a generous pension.
I don't give a shit what color he is, it's good he's retiring.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)and why do you repeat the same answer in two separate posts on the same thread?
Judge, jury executioner.
That is not America.
I will be interested to see what Rev. Sharpton says. His is the only voice besides Obama's that I care to listen to anymore. Rev. Al NEVER LIED TO ME.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)Rev. Al ain't running to defend Jr., what's that tell you?
WTF does Don Siegleman have to do with this, this is about Jr. resigning under the threat of criminal prosecution for misuse of campaign funds.
cali
(114,904 posts)I'm not judge, jury or executioner, pumpkin. He's copping a plea.
And though I love Reverend Al, he lied to all of us about Tawana Brawley.
Your comparing Jesse Jackson retiring from the House and copping a plea to lynchings. That is so offensive, vile, disgusting that I don't have the words for it.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)The person who's mom was run over by the politicians son (and the daughter of Brody was a passenger in the car) was paid a visit by her.
The daughter of the dead mother said get out of my house and STFU becaue I will lose my settlement millions if I talk or anyone catches wind of what was done
Now leave my house she pleaded
We will never know what happened, and it was not Al's business anyhow.
It is not a lawyer's job to care anyhow. It is however, the lawyer's job to defend a client no matter what and to try to get a client off.
And yes, Maddox and Mason were two more black men that got taken down.Both could have been senator, governor, mayor, president if they weren't taken down too.
Just another day in America.
Until President Obama overcame all those that were taken down.
May we defend Susan Rice forever.
edit to add- most people say Homeland is the single most realistic political story ever shown as fiction on tv. I know its a tv show and fiction, but it might as well be real, that is how realistic it is.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)she lied and Rev. Al helped perpretate the lie.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawana_Brawley
And what does this have to do with Jr. resigning from the House yesterday?
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)and I don't hold it against Rev. Sharpton. If a man doesn't back a woman who cries rape, nobody would be able to protect women ever.
(or do you also back Akin? One is the same as the other. Either rape is rape or it isn't).
It is very unhealthy to hold such long term grudges over things they aren't privy to anyhow.
It was dumb ass grudges that caused people to toss LBJ in the river and allow Nixon/Bush/Reagan to enter the presidency over a little wedge issue that in the scheme of things mattered little to all the social issues in America's history.
The long ball is more important than any specific item.
(Same as a drowning man being blamed for a drowning woman that would not have been saved anyhow. All people wanted was for Teddy to drown himself. )
Keeping ones eye on the prize is far more meaningful than "doing the Dukakis".
and yet some back the cold blooded killing of Mr. Trayvon Martin, who died solely because he was black in a state where racism is alive and daily shown to be.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)
are you talking about?graham4anything
(11,464 posts)She said she was raped.
We must always back and believe someone who says they were raped
Either that, or one would side with Akin.
there is no other answer when someone says they were raped.
rape is rape.
If a woman says they were raped, I for one believe them. Any civilized man or woman would.
Because once you say you don't believe it, then no one would believe any woman who says they were raped.
again, you keep bringing up these things then you say the thread is not about that.
Then don't bring the things up in the first place if you don't want someone providing examples saying it is not true.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)where you claim I brought up the name Tawana Brawley, I looked and I can't find it, however, I did find that post where you brought up Rev. Al and that's what led to Miss Brawley's name being brought up.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014313808#post78
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014313808#post93
Now you need to apologize or edit your post.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)I said "Rev. Sharpton never lied to me".
I did not mention the girls name. Nor would I ever mention her name in print unless someoen else did first.
And we shall never know the truth anyhow. Just because she backed off it, don't mean she wasn't paid to back off it, perhaps by the NYS police or something.
We don't know the truth
and besides one always must back a person who says they were raped.
Or nobody would ever be believed.
I apologize if you yourself didn't mention the name, though you yourself furthered the faux meme.IMHO
Why don't you just ignore my posts like 19 of your Pro- gun thread buddies already do if my viewpoint offends you so?
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)it was in the second link I provided but since you can't seem to click on a link, I'll provide you with the text.
cali (75,936 posts)
And though I love Reverend Al, he lied to all of us about Tawana Brawley.
Your comparing Jesse Jackson retiring from the House and copping a plea to lynchings. That is so offensive, vile, disgusting that I don't have the words for it.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014313808#post93
Now you can either apologize or edit your posts.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)big whoop di doo
playing word semantics
I am man enough to walk away from fights without using a gun and will apologize for your specifically not saying it
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)I didn't say you brought her name up, I said you brought Rev. Al's name up which led to Tawana's name being mentioned.
Don't you read posts.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)I would rather engage in debate.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)The evidence is pretty damning. Theres no conspiracy here. He's actually doing us a favor by not giving the repukes an issue to hammer us on.
And I doubt seriously that his career will be resurrected anytime soon, he's probably going to do time in prison.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)are buried (metaphorically speaking).
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)but last I heard was that any plea deal will include some time in prison.
Sgent
(5,857 posts)don't get to make deals to "name names". They are the names.
To me its the same situation that we had with "Dollar" Bill Jefferson in NOLA. They guy was a crook, he had 80,000 cash in his freezer, and had the hubris to run for re-election. Its one of the few times I've ever voted for (a fairly moderate) R candidate, who won the election.
That seat was in a Gerrymandered 75+% black district, and although we've since recaptured it, it was a terrible thing to do to his constituents and party.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)When you get to be the U.S. Attorney General, let me know.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)and a special election now!!!!
There was NO chance of his seat going republican in 2012 if he did not run imo
dont do the crime if you cant do the time
and he is trying every stall on that
Now investigating his wife aka his paid manager, and the campaign money she misused too
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)He maybe thought that Dad could do something to help him out of the jam he was in. Who knows?
Iggy
(1,418 posts)The repukes and the talking bobbleheads are definitely going to HAMMER on the fact this scandal, related to Obama's former senate seat, was kept under wraps until after the election.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)they got their asses handed to them in the elections and if they want to go down that road, I say let them, it will show the american people just how shallow they are and hopefully in 2014, we can take the House back and increase our lead in the Senate.
Iggy
(1,418 posts)I assume you recall the last midterm election did not go well for democrats.
but I can always hope and pray that the public will wake up and realize that the repukes have nothing to give to the country except more of the same obstructionist policies.
Iggy
(1,418 posts)You're kidding right?
people who think guys like Mourdick and Akin actually belong in congress-- THEY are going to wake up and see the light?
Hah hah hah!!! that's a good one.
but I'm an eternal optimist, I see the glass as half full as opposed to half empty.
At least we Missourins kept Akin out of the congress, that's gotta account for something.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Is this for real?
Who took him down?
BlueMan Votes
(903 posts)
and another black voice will rise to take his place. hopefully it will be one with a whole lot more integrity.
840high
(17,196 posts)
trailmonkee
(2,681 posts)BREAKING RT @LukeRussert: Aides to Speaker Boehner tell me they have received resignation letter of Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr.
http://bit.ly/UWUIVV
question everything
(47,479 posts)I am not a constituent, but this really was shameful.
He did not serve his constituents since June, and now the taxpayers will have to pay for a special election?
alp227
(32,025 posts)Expect the Jesse Jackson name & family tarnished for a long long time. When exactly did the news of the FBI investigation of JJJ come out, again? Could Jackson not have resolved his legal problems pre election? Was there a correlation between questioning by authorities and Jackson getting depressed?
I can't imagine this Thanksgiving for the Jesse Jackson family.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)I'm very sorry for his suffering. I hope he continues to get good treatment and is able to live a stable life.
kurtzapril4
(1,353 posts)Depression over getting caught. He's crooked as a bolt of lightning, and he wasn't even half-way through his first term when the investigation started, I believe. There were rumors of his crookedness even while he was campaigning, and the same for his wife, too.
It's no conspiracy against an African American man. This is a crooked pol who's going to take a plea deal in order to avoid spending more time in jail.
I can't believe Alan Grayson supported him for re-election.
olddad56
(5,732 posts)I used to work with people who suffered from bi-polar disorder (formerly known as manic-depression.) It is very common for people who suffer from this disorder to go on crazy spending sprees, or spend lots of money that they don't have, while in the manic phase of their illness. I had one guy who was a stable family man and went to prison for writing bad checks while on bizarre shopping sprees. Buying stuff that he gave to others, often strangers.
It is also a very hard to properly medicate. Lithium works for many, but the side effects make it difficult for many to take, and the dosage needs to me monitored closely because the sufferer's brain chemistry can change drastically. The other really sad side effect is that once a person becomes stable, they decide that they don't need to continue taking their meds. Then they relapse, and the whole process starts over.
Maybe he is just another crooked politician, maybe not. But I don't see the need for you to behave like a republican about it. That is a mental illness also, ya know.
Freddie Stubbs
(29,853 posts)
pinto
(106,886 posts)condoleeza
(814 posts)huge expectations and in some ways given a pass because of his name only. I hope he comes to grips with himself, who could live with that legacy? Just sad for him. He's a human being who has been under a microscope his whole life.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)If that is the case, one has to ask if that seat is somehow cursed.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)
sellitman
(11,606 posts)Mental health issues can be overcome. I wish him and his family well.
It-Gets-Better
(31 posts)Very sad
underthematrix
(5,811 posts)Jesse Jackson fought so hard for civil rights and anti-poverty. I just think Jesse Jackson should have treated his father's legacy with greater care. The whole thing just makes me sad.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)But I hope he continues to get help and his life becomes calm.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)Definite no-no.
But then again, looking at all the legalized bribery that goes on in Congress, JJJr. isn't the only one misusing funds, I'm sure.
marshall
(6,665 posts)Both seem destined to spend time behind bars, but he is desperately trying to at least save her.
alarimer
(16,245 posts)It's appalling how money has corrupted politics and how so many good people give in to it.
Time for big money to get out of politics. No one is immune to its allure.
No politician should ever be trusted.
glacierbay
(2,477 posts)absolutely.
And you are 100% correct.
donco
(1,548 posts)is now available.
