Would-be Tesla buyers snub company as Musk's reputation dips
Source: Reuters
The ranks of would-be Tesla buyers in the United States are shrinking, according to a survey by market intelligence firm Caliber, which attributed the drop in part to CEO Elon Musk's polarizing persona.
While Tesla continued to post strong sales growth last year, helped by aggressive price cuts, the electric-vehicle maker is expected to report weak quarterly sales as early as Tuesday.
Caliber's "consideration score" for Tesla, provided exclusively to Reuters, fell to 31% in February, less than half its high of 70% in November 2021 when it started tracking consumer interest in the brand.
Tesla's consideration score fell 8 percentage points from January alone even as Caliber's scores for Mercedes (MBGn.DE), BMW (BMWG.DE), and Audi, which produce gas as well as EV models, inched up during that same period, reaching 44-47%.
Read more: https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/would-be-tesla-buyers-snub-company-musks-reputation-dips-2024-04-01/
spooky3
(34,476 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,434 posts)Musk appears to be allied with Russia's Putin, and he is opposed to US support for UKR.
Baitball Blogger
(46,757 posts)brush
(53,859 posts)He didn't invent anything anyway, just bought in.
That stainless steel pick-up is a disaster...it rusts. Whoever heard of stainless steel rusting?
PSPS
(13,614 posts)That happens when it isn't stored, fabricated and handled properly. It becomes contaminated and loses its properties. Just using the same tools on both stainless and other steel will render the stainless useless.
There are several ways that stainless steel can become contaminated during fabrication. The three major causes are contamination with carbon, chloride or mild steel. To have proven results, It is important to eliminate all of them.
Contamination by mild steels occurs just by contact with the stainless steel. This might be caused by contact with tools such as screwdrivers, files, drills and polishing tools that have already been used on mild steel. Or it may be caused by grinding dust produced by using power tools or falling particles of welding and flame cutting on carbon steel in the general proximity.
Contamination by chloride, while less common, can be caused by contact with hydrochloric acid, or even, in extreme cases, from salt in sweat if not cleaned appropriately.
Contamination by Carbon occurs due to welding of stainless steel to carbon steel, flakes from welding carbon steel in the general proximity, or even some pen or markers used to write on both carbon and the stainless.
Its common to see rust on process equipment caused just from welding or grinding on carbon steel in the general proximity. Grinding stainless steel welds with mild steel brushes can also leave the pipe covered with polka dots of rust in short order. Once embedded in the stainless steel, it is very difficult to remove all of the rust spots permanently. Once the rust has bloomed, if left untreated, it can progress into pitting corrosion and will haunt the owner from that point on.
Scruffy1
(3,256 posts)They are generally grouped as martensitic and austenitic. The most commonly used ones like 303 are only somewhat corrosion resistant. I have no idea what Tesla uses.
They use N-304, which is austenitic. A surprising choice because its resistance to chloride attack is pretty poor, and at least a third of the country uses salt on the roads.
In our industry, 304 would only be used for hot soft water.
Everything else was 316 & up.
EastBayGuy
(9 posts)I live near Tesla's California factory and employees hate him.
MenloParque
(512 posts)2022 Porsche Taycan on the lot. I traded my S for that Taycan and so happy I did. This vehicle is better in every way than the Tesla. Also, VERY happy about my AMAZING trade in value for my EXCELLENT CONDITION model S. I saw the Service manager and smiled as I walked past to get into my new trade-in
Zorro
(15,749 posts)MenloParque
(512 posts)Ive seen in some states they just have a small showroom where you cannot just go in and buy but thats not the case in larger California showroom/service centers.
Zorro
(15,749 posts)Not a dealership.
Tesla Sales Centers are distribution points for picking up new (and used/inventory) Teslas sold through their online ordering system.
I'm quite surprised to hear they had a used Porsche "on the lot" for resale, since that would be very, very unusual indeed. But then I'm only familiar with SoCal Tesla Sales and Service Centers.
spooky3
(34,476 posts)Have multiple Teslas in stock. Go to the dealer websites and you can search them. You seem to be splitting hairs here.
Zorro
(15,749 posts)That is why Texas and Michigan dealers tried to prevent Tesla from opening up their sales centers.
Tesla sales centers may have "inventory", but they are primarily resale demonstrators or new units that people ordered but didn't pick up by the time they were supposed to. They are not traditional dealerships with adjacent used car lots onsite.
spooky3
(34,476 posts)spooky3
(34,476 posts)Zorro
(15,749 posts)Not dealerships.
spooky3
(34,476 posts)kimbutgar
(21,188 posts)He paid $2500 and then finally heard after 1 month it would be 6 months until he got the car. He needed a car sooner than that so he cancelled the order. They kept $750 of the deposit. He swore that he would never buy a Tesla then and ended up buying a Nissan hybrid car.
Initech
(100,102 posts)The Kia EV6, Honda Prologue, and Ford F-150 Lightning all look very tempting. Time to flush Musk and his white supremacist BS!
truthisfreedom
(23,155 posts)Sold my Tesla.
Initech
(100,102 posts)That price...
apnu
(8,758 posts)I have a 3 year old car, my next one, I hope, will be electric. We like to take long road trips, and are waiting for faster charging and more charging stations. When we do buy a new car, it wont be Tesla. That brand is poison to us.