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Omaha Steve

(99,642 posts)
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:08 PM Dec 2012

(Gov R-NE) Heineman: Too early to talk gun control

Source: Omaha World Herald

By Paul Hammel

LINCOLN — Gov. Dave Heineman, whose wife, Sally Ganem, is a former elementary school principal, said Monday that he spent the weekend talking with his wife about the massacre at a Newtown, Conn., school.

But answers to stop another similar tragedy were elusive, he said.

“This is just an evil tragedy,” Heineman said in a conference call with reporters. “It’s unthinkable, it’s unspeakable.”

When asked about gun control, the Republican governor said “all the facts” need to be gathered first.

FULL story at link.



Read more: http://www.omaha.com/article/20121217/NEWS/712179921/1707#heineman-too-early-to-talk-gun-control

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(Gov R-NE) Heineman: Too early to talk gun control (Original Post) Omaha Steve Dec 2012 OP
Actually Governor, it's too late W T F Dec 2012 #1
Amen. volstork Dec 2012 #5
That's pre-12/14 thinking. nt onehandle Dec 2012 #2
"all the facts?" DFW Dec 2012 #3
... n2doc Dec 2012 #4
NEVER rtracey Dec 2012 #6
So why aren't you talking about mental health care? lbrtbell Dec 2012 #38
I did rtracey Dec 2012 #40
Sure MichaelHarris Dec 2012 #7
. Jamaal510 Dec 2012 #8
So, because 2 people devoid of ideas cannot fathom a solution, the rest of us should wait for them?… Journeyman Dec 2012 #9
Or "stand by" Plucketeer Dec 2012 #37
Okay, let's collect the facts... brooklynite Dec 2012 #10
"We won't talk about gun contol today. COLGATE4 Dec 2012 #11
Facts? Baloney. The time to address the gun problem has long since passed. Paper Roses Dec 2012 #12
And then another tragedy will occur pushing back the date to have a conversation even further PA Democrat Dec 2012 #13
President Obama, if by any chance you're reading this, Berlin Expat Dec 2012 #14
People own these guns so they can massacre local law enforcement if they come knocking with an kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #22
That pretty well Berlin Expat Dec 2012 #26
would he say this if it was his kids being butchered by a gun owner? nt msongs Dec 2012 #15
We have a winner! alfredo Dec 2012 #16
What a convenient way to pretend that all the preceding mass killings with firearms didn't matter... MrScorpio Dec 2012 #17
Does he say this to folks who have watched half their horses escape from the barn and kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #18
The fuck it is. The time to talk about gun control is NOW. Panasonic Dec 2012 #19
Ah, the call of the wild 'Gun Nut Enabler' Canuckistanian Dec 2012 #20
In Other Words: Caeser67 Dec 2012 #21
What a despicable excuse for a human being. nt valerief Dec 2012 #23
Kind of like a popular sign in bars: "Free Beer Tomorrow" hatrack Dec 2012 #24
Thats what we heard everytime its too early to talk.... Historic NY Dec 2012 #25
Too soon to discuss it means merrily Dec 2012 #27
Not too soon. Too late. Shadowflash Dec 2012 #28
How about your replacement? Is it too early to talk about that? geomon666 Dec 2012 #29
It's Never Too Early Num-Nuts Kuhbner Dec 2012 #30
"Evil" is code word for "there are no solutions, stop looking TwilightGardener Dec 2012 #31
"No easy answers"? ReRe Dec 2012 #32
Stop stalling...it's never too soon. SoapBox Dec 2012 #33
Fuck you, Heineman. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #34
not too early for the next 20 kids. Garion_55 Dec 2012 #35
GOP model of governing, DO NOTHING. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #36
Another fucking ass-hole republican nakocal Dec 2012 #39

DFW

(54,387 posts)
3. "all the facts?"
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:11 PM
Dec 2012

What, does he have information that indicates that some of the victims were killed by bows and arrows?

lbrtbell

(2,389 posts)
38. So why aren't you talking about mental health care?
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 10:06 PM
Dec 2012

After all, sane people don't go on shooting sprees.

brooklynite

(94,572 posts)
10. Okay, let's collect the facts...
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:16 PM
Dec 2012

1. The victims were shot multiple times by a gun.

2. The gun was a high-capacity, high frequency weapon.

3. The gun was legally purchased.

Have I left anything out?

Paper Roses

(7,473 posts)
12. Facts? Baloney. The time to address the gun problem has long since passed.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:26 PM
Dec 2012

Act now, before another one of these horrible incidents occur.
To those in power to make decisions regarding guns, wake up.
We need no guns. They do not get us jobs, do not fed our families, do not pay our taxes. All they do is kill---either us or the wonderful animals that share our land.
I've had it with any sympathy for anyone who holds firearms. 2nd amendment be damned. Right to carry arms does not mean right to kill. We are long past the point of needing guns to do whatever the founding fathers thought was appropriate at the time.

Confiscate now!

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
13. And then another tragedy will occur pushing back the date to have a conversation even further
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:27 PM
Dec 2012

based upon this "logic."

I call BS. How much time is needed to "gather all the facts" when there are score of other recent massacres in which the facts have been gathered?

Berlin Expat

(950 posts)
14. President Obama, if by any chance you're reading this,
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:30 PM
Dec 2012

I'd like you to John Howard on these fools asses. In the sense of what former PM John Howard did in the wake of the Port Arthur Massacre.

I own a shotgun, to be totally honest. I'm a bird hunter. It's more than adequate for home defense, though here that's really not a problem, to be blunt.

Do I need an AK-47? No. What for? Deer hunting? LOL!

I'm quite proficient with firearms, and edged weapons as well. I've been target shooting since I was a kid, and I've got 15 years of kendo training as well.

If any armchair commandos or would-be "Wolverines!" out there really think they're going to take on the full might, the full arsenal of the US military in some outlandish "resistance to tyranny" scenario, all I can say is don't make me laugh. Your Bushmaster .223 isn't going to do shit against a 9-megaton thermonuclear weapon. Your Glock 17 is no much for a Predator drone armed with Hellfire missiles three miles out at 5,000 feet. Hell, they'll wait until you're dropping a deuce while reading The Turner Diaries on the throne before putting some hardcore smack-down on your "patriotic" ass. If you really honestly believe that you can defeat the US military, the most heavily-armed military juggernaut in all of human history, you're deluded.

If you need anything more than a 12-gauge shotgun, a .30-06 bolt-action rifle for larger game, or if you're uber-paranoid about self-defense, a .45 ACP, (and I'll concede a .22 long-rifle is useful for small game) your problem isn't your fear of President Obama, the Scary Black Man, and federal tyranny. Your problem is that you have a small winkie and you're clearly overcompensating.

You do not need military firepower. Simply because you would not win.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
22. People own these guns so they can massacre local law enforcement if they come knocking with an
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:51 PM
Dec 2012

arrest or search warrant, or do anything else the gun nut doesn't approve of. They also have them so they can kill folks like government safety inspectors or other officials. Oh, and any neighbors, friends, acquaintances or strangers who do anything at all to piss them off. They see guns as the only appropriate method of settling any dispute, no matter how trivial, and no matter if they, the gun nut, are in the wrong.

They use lots of words like tyranny and rights and evil, but the truth is, they simply weren't taught or didn't absorb the basic childhood lesson that YOU DON'T HIT FIRST. And they think they are exempt from all laws they don't like.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
17. What a convenient way to pretend that all the preceding mass killings with firearms didn't matter...
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:32 PM
Dec 2012

AND to play ignorant of all the ones to come.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
18. Does he say this to folks who have watched half their horses escape from the barn and
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:45 PM
Dec 2012

want the other half to stay put???

 

Panasonic

(2,921 posts)
19. The fuck it is. The time to talk about gun control is NOW.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:45 PM
Dec 2012

I bet the next massacre would happen somewhere in Nebraska, Governor. It's way past time to put aside the pro-2A 'tude and knock heads for gun control legislation.

I'd start with limited clips that one may carry - up to 3 10 round magazine. Anything high capacity ought to be illegal and anyone caught would have their gun license revoked and spend 5 to 10 years in prison.

Also, tax each ammo nearly to 95% and each ammo has to be imprinted. Think LawGiver.

That reminds me - need to check if the new version of JD is out on DVD.

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
20. Ah, the call of the wild 'Gun Nut Enabler'
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 03:46 PM
Dec 2012

And it's distinctive call, "Too Early to Talk, Too Early to Talk"

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
24. Kind of like a popular sign in bars: "Free Beer Tomorrow"
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:05 PM
Dec 2012

It's always free beer tomorrow, eh Dave?

Asshole.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
25. Thats what we heard everytime its too early to talk....
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:05 PM
Dec 2012

unfortunately it turns out it is always too late....

Hell, he just had 2 cops executed in Topeka.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
27. Too soon to discuss it means
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:10 PM
Dec 2012

1. I believe Americans have the attention span of a flea with diarrhea. If we wait a bit, they'll be on to the next shiny thing and leave guns ALOOONNNEEE!!!!


2. If people enact laws while they are clearly focused on a tragedy like this one, the laws will be way too stringent.



3. At a time like this, even I am reluctant to drag out my usual pro-gun memes and, even if I did, they would ring too hollow.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
32. "No easy answers"?
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 04:57 PM
Dec 2012

No easy answers. "Too early to tell," maybe? How's about "clueless"? Maybe the NRA hasn't give the go ahead for anyone to talk yet? Is this what the other no-brain Republicons' are saying today, or are they all laying low still? His wife is a Stepford wife....talked her down probably because she was thinking like every other teacher in the USA since Friday. Is the NRA one of his campaign funders?

Garion_55

(1,915 posts)
35. not too early for the next 20 kids.
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 06:09 PM
Dec 2012

we could wait till after they are gone too though i suppose.



*warning - parody. nra hasnt said shit in 4 days so let this speak for them.






nakocal

(552 posts)
39. Another fucking ass-hole republican
Mon Dec 17, 2012, 10:46 PM
Dec 2012

I guess the republican's answer of when to talk about gun control is never. Profit before people, and a twenty children dead is a small price to pay for the hundreds of thousands of dollars that gun manufacturers will make because now even more cowards will go out and buy more guns.

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