Man pardoned by ex-Miss. Gov. Barbour involved in fatal gunfight ("quickly escalated ")
Source: Fox News
A man involved in a deadly shooting at a barbecue Thursday night in Mississippi was one of nearly 200 inmates pardoned by former Gov. Haley Barbour one year ago.
Calhoun County Sheriff Greg Pollan told FoxNews.com an argument quickly escalated into a fatal gunfight between Wayne Therman Harris and Chris McGonagill in Calhoun City, Miss. The shooting took place just outside McGonagills home, where he, Harris, and three other men were having a barbecue before things got heated between the two friends.
Barbours controversial decision to issue 198 pardons in his final days as governor drew national media attention last January. The states Attorney General Jim Hood challenged the legality of the pardons to the states Supreme Court, but eventually nearly all of the pardons were ruled to be legal.
"I pray no person becomes a victim of any of these pardoned criminals," Hood said after the courts decision.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/11/man-pardoned-by-ex-miss-gov-barbour-involved-in-fatal-gunfight/
Tempest
(14,591 posts)Not fair to put this in Barbour's lap.
gateley
(62,683 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)would he still have been in jail? If Barbour had NOT let him out?
Bottom line...he shot and killed a guy...and SEVEN time? Guess he wasn't out to just wing him...hopefully now he will go back to jail for murder.
"Harris, who received a full pardon from Barbour for the sale of marijuana, was shot twice in the leg. McGonagill was shot seven times and died during surgery at Baptist Memorial Hospital in Oxford, around 12:30 a.m. Friday morning."
Tempest
(14,591 posts)"and SEVEN time"
If it were the case where he was the one shot at first and it was me, I would have made it an even dozen.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)It may be a loose usage by the local Fox affiliate, but pardons refer to after the fact expungements of the recod and commutations refer to prisoners who are actually freed early.
RudynJack
(1,044 posts)That's not correct.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)RudynJack
(1,044 posts)but that's not a requirement for a pardon. See Ford/Nixon.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)Fuck all GOP people we need to use everything we can if it causes the gop embarrassment even if it's not fair tough fuckinhg shit....this is politics!!!
Tempest
(14,591 posts)And blaming Barbour is unfair.
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olddad56
(5,732 posts)If the guy had not been imprisoned, for selling pot, would he have been a person who would have killed someone. Going to prison is a traumatic event for a lot of people. They are often not the same when they get out. I'm just wondering.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)Tempest
(14,591 posts)That usually happens when the person goes in with violent tendencies.
Pot inmates do easy time.
MichaelHarris
(10,017 posts)and you never know when you'll have to defend yourself from it.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Not sure whether tomato-based, vinegar, or mustard-based would be more dangerous for that.
DemoTex
(25,399 posts)It's the EtOH, or, in the words of the late Sen. John Tower - D-TX: "beverage alcohol."
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Did you MEAN to write "John Tower- D-Tex"?
DemoTex
(25,399 posts)The late John Tower (R-TX) was, of course, the first Republican US Senator from Texas since Reconstruction.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Tower actually won LBJ's old Senate seat after Johnson got a job with some folks from Massachusetts.
MichaelHarris
(10,017 posts)high fructose sauce gang that will kill ya
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Things are gonna get sticky!
Ken Burch
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Might as well do unto him with it as they did unto Dukakis.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)exboyfil
(17,863 posts)Awful small calibers.
Historic NY
(37,451 posts)McGonagill was carrying a 9mm pistol and shot Harris twice.
Harris used a .22 rifle he got out of his truck, which was parked nearby, and hit McGonagill multiple times.
At this point we know at least 13 total shots were fired, Pollan said. We cannot confirm who fired first
http://www.calhouncountyjournal.com/calhoun-city-man-dies-after-thursday-shooting-another-hospitalized/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=calhoun-city-man-dies-after-thursday-shooting-another-hospitalized
UTUSN
(70,708 posts)4bucksagallon
(975 posts)From the source, "The Calhoun County Sheriffs Department is still investigating the case and no charges have been filed at this time. Officers are checking to see if the two men had licenses for the weapons involved, a .20 mm rifle and .9 mm pistol."
A .20 or .2 mm and a .9mm pistol???? Lets do the math, .2 mm = +/- about .008"............. .9 mm about .036", either two of the worlds smallest weapons or the writer needs help. As of now I am confused what the .20 mm gun was, it probably was the rifle, and my guess would be a .17 caliber or what we call a varmint weapon. I did a search for a .2 mm gun, I couldn't find anything that made sense. It couldn't be a 20 mm, now that would be ridiculous, about .8" or more than 1.5 times as big as a .50 caliber MG.
okaawhatever
(9,462 posts)24601
(3,962 posts)Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)harmonicon
(12,008 posts)He's just one of the many "good guys with guns" that the NRA have been telling us about. That Barbour is clearly a brilliant man, chock-full of insight.
okaawhatever
(9,462 posts)tions wouldn't have made a difference. I wonder if the guy who died had kids. Fox isn't too worried w/that.
24601
(3,962 posts)ability to retrieve his .22cal rifle from his truck saved his life. It may be that Harris planned the killing - and that's why they investigate.
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)Good that this guy had a killing device. It did its job well.
24601
(3,962 posts)it turns out he planned the killings, he wasn't so good. If he was a victim and his rifle saved his life, he may turn out to be the good guy.
Good gun or bad gun? Wouldn't a .22 cal at close range usually be out-matched by a 9 mm (.38 cal). Why two 9mm wounds - was he just "done", did the gun jam or was it the return fire?
Until the police complete the investigation, it's all speculation.
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)are you telling me that when two people have guns, we can't before or at the point of sale determine who is a good guy and who is a bad guy? Fuck. I think maybe we didn't think this whole thing through enough.
24601
(3,962 posts).22 rifle) from his truck. At this point, we don't know if they purchased them, stole them, received them as a gift or even manufactured them. We don't know if they were owned by them or borrowed from someone else.
What's the problem with waiting for the investigation?
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)24601
(3,962 posts)judgments. Take Al Gore for example - likely accepted on DU as a generally a good guy - until the day he sold out to the oil producers. Good guy or bad guy?
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)Sell out to oil producers, my ass. He owned part of a cable company that was sold to another cable company though. Oh, the horror.
jpak
(41,758 posts)Gun Nut Lackey Barbour should know this.
Dumbass
yup
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)Fuck... Really?
Oh wait... it was a marijuana dealer? Well surely then this nobel hippie was defending himself against Fascists!
Tempest
(14,591 posts)A friend of mine did time for selling one ounce. He wasn't a dealer, he thought he was doing a favor for a friend of a friend.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)I was reading this as if Barbour's pardon had let him out, in fact he had already been out for 10 years.
Harris had served 14 months and was released in March 2002, according to Mississippi Department of Corrections spokeswoman Tara Booth.
He was legally able to carry a hunting rifle since Dec. 21, 2007, when he received a Calhoun County Circuit Court certificate of rehabilitation, according to Sinatra Cruthids of the Calhoun County Circuit Court.
It wasnt until Barbours pardon that Harris had the right to bear all arms.
24601
(3,962 posts)can's blame Barbour, there's no story here.