Insurance company to sue Lance Armstrong for millions in bonus prizes
Source: CNN
The sports insurance company that paid Lance Armstrong more than $10 million in bonuses plans to file a lawsuit to recover its money, an attorney for SCA Promotions told CNN on Wednesday.
Jeffrey Tillotson said SCA has already asked the disgraced former cycling champ for the money back.
"We made our demand for the return of the money we paid him for winning the Tour de France races where the titles were stripped," Tillotson told CNN's Ashleigh Banfield. "Mr. Armstrong and his legal team have not complied with that demand."
Tillotson said the suit, which has not been filed yet, will ask for the return of $12 million in bonus money paid for wins from 2002 to 2005 and for millions in legal costs and interest.
Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/06/justice/sports-lance-armstrong-lawsuit/index.html
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)wet dreams.
It will all boil down to the language of the contract and whether there is any proviso dealing with retroactive stripping of the title. If the contract simply says he will be awarded money for winning the title, he technically did win, but later had the win invalidated.
Suits like this show off the law at its sleaziest.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)with a sincere apology. Then at least he could crow about how he did the right thing even though it hurt.
Instead, he wants to hang onto his ill-gotten gains. What a douche.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)Though I think of people like him more as colostomy bags as opposed to douches.
11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)their salaries, bonuses, etc. Wait ... what? None of them? EVER?
Ahhh, fuck it! Let the burning of the witch commence!
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)But now that you've brought it up........yeah, all those other cheating douches need to give back THEIR ill-gotten gains, too.
Incitatus
(5,317 posts)I'm assuming this was a sponsor. They still got their name out there for several years and must have attracted new business. Did him being stripped of the titles cost the company clients?
wtmusic
(39,166 posts)naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)But the underlying claim has to be that they suffered damages. He will likely try to show that not only did they not suffer damages by his winning (and them paying) but that in fact they profited greatly.
wtmusic
(39,166 posts)and those payments were based on him winning, which he only accomplished fraudulently. In essence, they were sold a bum bill of goods and they're entitled to their money back. It will be up to Lance to prove any PR benefit outweighs that.
Though I"m making it sound much simpler than it undoubtedly is (there was also a previous lawsuit with associated legal fees) I don't see how Lance can get away without a big hit.
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)If he didn't win, yes they would not have paid the money, but they also would not have reaped the substantial gains from his winning and their sponsorship of him.
I.E., they profited off of his cheating, and therefore there are no damages.
That will be his argument. I am not saying that he will win, but it's reasonable.
It would certainly work against a generic sponsor where no bonuses were paid.
wtmusic
(39,166 posts)If you go to a car dealer and purchase a car, and you find out they've fraudulently given you a smaller engine, they still have to give you your money back.
They can't simply say you've saved money on fuel, and therefore it's a wash.
The bonuses themselves are damages because fraud is involved.
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)I don't think that one is a good analogy, but we will see where this goes.
cstanleytech
(26,293 posts)for a years to attract the girls, found a nice one, married her, settled down and had kids but now they want their money back because it doesnt fit their family anymore.
Translation, they paid him to win and unless there is some sort of stipulation regarding turning the money back over to them if he did something illegal to win they might well be sol.
wtmusic
(39,166 posts)but as long as they're within that timeframe it doesn't matter at all when there's fraud involved.
They could, with equal justification, say the millions they paid Lance could have gone to another sports star with an enduring reputation that would have earned them money well into the future.
None of that matters.
cstanleytech
(26,293 posts)If all it said was that he had to win with no clause for returning that money they might be sol especially if as Incitatus pointed out a they used that to further their business.
Now who might have a case to sue him and get the money might be the person who came in 2nd, they might actually have a case to claim the money as being stolen from them.
naaman fletcher
(7,362 posts)Lance will argue that their are no damages. He will show how much everyone who sponsored him benefitted.
He will also probably argue that they knew what he was doing.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,321 posts)The case went to arbitration and SCA agreed to pay $7.5 million to settle the case. Armstrongs attorney, Mark Fabiani, sent a copy of the 2006 settlement agreement to the Daily News, pointing out that the agreement says no party may challenge, appeal or attempt to set aside the arbitration award.
The insurance company has no right to reopen this case, Fabiani said.
But SCA lawyers and executives say thats hogwash, especially since Armstrong after years of denials and attacks on critics acknowledged that he had used performance-enhancing drugs en route to his seven Tour de France victories during his interview with Oprah Winfrey last month.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i-team/suit-force-lance-clean-oath-article-1.1257529
KansDem
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u4ic
(17,101 posts)I thought he just kept falling off.
roxy1234
(117 posts)I am going to side with the insurance company. Lance, this is what you made me do
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)I would be at my home sitting on a giant pile of money and laughing.
BUt he had to be in the spotlight...