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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 06:34 PM Feb 2013

Budget Strains To Cut Carrier Fleet In (Persian)Gulf To 1

Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. officials say that budget strains will force the Pentagon to cut its aircraft carrier presence in the Persian Gulf area from two carriers to one.

Officials say Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has formally approved a plan to keep just one carrier in the region. There have been two aircraft carrier groups there for most of the last two years.

The USS Dwight D. Eisenhower was in the Gulf but was brought home in December for maintenance. It will return later this month, but plans for the USS Harry S. Truman to deploy to the Gulf this week have been canceled.

Read more: http://www.timesrecordnews.com/news/2013/feb/06/budget-strains-cut-carrier-fleet-gulf-1/

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Budget Strains To Cut Carrier Fleet In (Persian)Gulf To 1 (Original Post) Purveyor Feb 2013 OP
Oh noes GeorgeGist Feb 2013 #1
cutting back on the carter-reagan doctrine madrchsod Feb 2013 #2
Considering we have air-bases in Turkey. Bahrain, and Saudi Arabia... HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #3
Hormuz is increasingly irrelevant anyway. AtheistCrusader Feb 2013 #4
If the carrier group is not there it's somewhere else. How does this save anything? xtraxritical Feb 2013 #14
More time in SD or Norfolk, HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #15
Alright, sounds reasonable, thanks. xtraxritical Feb 2013 #16
It really takes a huge amount of money to operate a carrier group at sea. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #17
Oh goddamn! tabasco Feb 2013 #5
Great! magic59 Feb 2013 #6
Cut it to zero Sherman A1 Feb 2013 #7
I agree. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #18
Maybe the Navy could hold a bake sale... nt Eugenian Feb 2013 #8
One carrier battle group... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2013 #9
We used Four against Iraq during Desert Strom, happyslug Feb 2013 #13
The Navy gets to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps! neverforget Feb 2013 #10
That's a start. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #11
As if we don't have Iran circled already. Socal31 Feb 2013 #12

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
2. cutting back on the carter-reagan doctrine
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 06:58 PM
Feb 2013

i guess the soviet union is`t going to take our oil. it`s about time we stop paying security for the oil companies.

the truman will be rotated to the south china seas.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
3. Considering we have air-bases in Turkey. Bahrain, and Saudi Arabia...
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:13 PM
Feb 2013

And a bomber base in Diego Garcia, plus carrier fleets in the Indian Ocean and Med...I don't see a second carrier fleet in the Persian Gulf as a necessity. I'm not even sure that one is a necessity, seeing as its major purpose is to provoke Iran.

A few destroyers to watch over US shipping, and a couple minesweepers to make sure Hormuz stays clear is sufficient. There is plenty of air power and missiles already in place to respond to Irani aggression without the need of carriers.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
4. Hormuz is increasingly irrelevant anyway.
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:17 PM
Feb 2013

New ports have been opened and are increasing capacity as we speak, to counter any threat to that strait.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
15. More time in SD or Norfolk,
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:49 PM
Feb 2013

less time at sea. Less wear and tear on equip. Lower manpower costs. Less frequent need to replace ships. Less chances of damage.

I think we only need 5 Carrier groups at sea at a time...North Atlantic, Med, Indian Ocean, North and South Pacific. Others can be in port under maintainence or on standby. Tours can be shortened a bit having ships on standby ready to replace them. Sailors be away from home for a shorter period, thus less stressed.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
17. It really takes a huge amount of money to operate a carrier group at sea.
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 01:12 AM
Feb 2013

Fuel for all the many ships (carrier, cruiser, several destroyers, 2 or 3 submarines, at least one supply ship, perhaps an assault ship and minesweeper as well). Fuel for all the planes (which includes anti-sub patrols, and air cover 24/7).
Stateside, in port, no air patrols. No burning up ships fuel. No wear and tear. Maintainence work is less rushed, so probably less costly. The ships still could put to sea on fairly short notice, unless they were undergoing a major overhaul, which is one at a time same as now.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
5. Oh goddamn!
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:27 PM
Feb 2013

We're only going to be able to turn the entire region into a parking lot 18 times over instead of 36!!

That Obammie is weak on defense!!!

 

magic59

(429 posts)
6. Great!
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 07:56 PM
Feb 2013

Lets cut more from the military industrial complex. Why do Americans have to spend trillions of dollars protecting big biz and Europe when 57,000 Americans die each year from lack of health care?

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
18. I agree.
Thu Feb 7, 2013, 01:23 AM
Feb 2013

We're surrounding Iran on all sides even without a Carrier Group in the Gulf. I don't think absence of carrier groups makes us any less able to respond to Iran.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
13. We used Four against Iraq during Desert Strom,
Wed Feb 6, 2013, 11:21 PM
Feb 2013

And any REAL targets will be LAND targets not sea going ones thus the ability of one carrier vs any other navy is irrelevant.

All told this means all the talk of war with Iran has been just talk.

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