Gunmaker stops sales to cops in tough gun law states

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Associated Press

Gunmaker stops sales to cops in tough gun law states
4:10p.m. EST March 9, 2013

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) — Some Arkansas gunmakers are restricting sales to law enforcement agencies in states that have passed strict laws on guns.

Berryville-based Wilson Combat told the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette that it's refusing to sell weapons to law enforcement and state agencies in California, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, Washington, D.C., and Chicago. The policy also applies to officers and state employees buying as individuals — but not to nongovernment-affiliated citizens.

The movement is known as the Firearms Equality Movement.

The owner of NFA Gear LLC in Beebe says he also supports the movement and limits sales to law-enforcement to the same items citizens can purchase.


Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/03/09/gunmakers-cops-protest/1975697/

[ProgressiveProfessor]

1. Last I saw there where 70+ companies doing it

No major manufacturers yet, but certainly some major suppliers

[Judi Lynn]

17. AP Enterprise: Nixon wished for total handgun ban

AP Enterprise: Nixon wished for total handgun ban
By FREDERIC J. FROMMER, Associated Press | March 9, 2013 | Updated: March 9, 2013 12:00pm

WASHINGTON (AP) — Few presidents in modern times have been as interested in gun control as Richard Nixon, of all people. He proposed ridding the market of Saturday night specials, contemplated banning handguns altogether and refused to pander to gun owners by feigning interest in their weapons.

Several previously unreported Oval Office recordings and White House memos from the Nixon years show a conservative president who at times appeared willing to take on the National Rifle Association, a powerful gun lobby then as now, even as his aides worried about the political ramifications.

"I don't know why any individual should have a right to have a revolver in his house," Nixon said in a taped conversation with aides. "The kids usually kill themselves with it and so forth." He asked why "can't we go after handguns, period?"

Nixon went on: "I know the rifle association will be against it, the gun makers will be against it." But "people should not have handguns." He laced his comments with obscenities, as was typical.

More:
http://www.chron.com/news/article/AP-Enterprise-Nixon-wished-for-total-handgun-ban-4341724.php

[bluedigger]

2. And there was much rejoicing at The Freedom Group.

[Robb]

3. It seems the gun cuddlers are a touch iffy on how a boycott works, exactly.

"I'll show you! You KEEP your money!"

[Tempest]

4. No big deal

Lots of foreign sources approved by the feds for importing. I'm sure they won't mind the increased sales.

[SkyDaddy7]

5. This could get bad quick...

Depending on how many gun companies decide to get involved...All they are doing is trying to blackmail governments into not restricting assault weapons & other firearms. It might work if the police begin to find it hard to buy weapons.

Not sure if "foreign" suppliers would work...Most buy from American weapons companies & are set up to be equipped from foreign sources. Not to mention how much more expensive it would be to import the weapons they need & the cost to convert entire police forces.

[2pooped2pop]

21. money talks

no one making any real sales to popo is probably planning on stopping that. If any do, they will forget the whole thing if they see profits actually going down.

[TheCowsCameHome]

6. So what? Let them boycott themselves. Brilliant.

[union_maid]

7. Great business plan

Don't sell to law enforcement in large states with lots of law enforcement. Genius!

[Historic NY]

8. Not to worry......most of the stuff they sell is not used by most depts.

If there is not state bid chances are they don't sell as a vendor anyway.

Large-scale law-enforcement suppliers including Glock, Ruger, Smith & Wesson, and Sig Sauer have not joined the movement and did not respond to requests for comment.

[olddad56]

9. so, how about some Amercian Steel company stepping up an stop selling steel to this company.

or reasonable gun owners boycotting this company. There has to be a few reasonable gun owners, I'll bet there are a lot of them.

[Red Mountain]

10. Silly posturing = marketing for half wits

Law enforcement in these states will get want they want.

Kinda begs the question, though.....what is so important about civilians having weapons parity with law enforcement?

[apocalypsehow]

15. +1.

"Kinda begs the question, though.....what is so important about civilians having weapons parity with law enforcement?"

It's largely just a psychology issue. There is seemingly a deep and broad feeling among a great number of largely-white, largely-middle aged men that they are losing control of "their" ( ) country, and snarling and yelling about their "enumerated right" to strut through Wal Mart with a pistol perched in their pants is a lot more acceptable than what used to be the ugly hobby among that group, i.e., turning fire hoses and loosing attack dogs against persons of color, women, and the gay community, and standing at schoolhouse doors proclaiming "Segregation today; segregation tomorrow; segregation forever!"

You see, the "RKBA enthusiast" movement is largely the "Angry White Male" contingent that used to be talked about after the 1994 elections: men (largely) who feel threatened and endangered by the advances racial minorities, women, and the LGBT community have made over the years. Look at their literature and the talking points from the gun groups like the NRA and GOA: it's veiled, coded, Lester Maddox/Bull Connor stuff; look at the memes and OP's posted down in the Gungeon by our "pro gun progressives"*: same angry, though cleverly veiled, garbage.

That is the reason my sig line so enraged and continues to enrage our "RKBA enthusiasts": no truth hurts so much as one that applies to the dude looking at himself in the mirror, to coin (and paraphrase) a phrase.

[onehandle]

11. Those dickless wonders are going to have a lean future as the country blueifies and populates. nt

[apocalypsehow]

14. Exactly right - spot-on.

[Aerows]

12. I'm sure that

police departments are beating down the door to buy $3500 pistols like that Wilson Combat company sells (I checked their website). I'm equally sure that on a police officer's salary, they too, can't wait to drop that kind of money instead of using standard service weapons that don't cost anywhere near that much.

Not that I'm entirely knowledgeable about the entire line of guns that Law Enforcement types use, but I'm pretty sure their departments don't spring for ultra-expensive custom models.

Looks like a marketing tool to me.

[apocalypsehow]

13. More business for Glock, Sig, S & W, Colt, and Springfield Armory, the major gun makers in any

event. Those big companies are never going to stop doing business with Blue state law enforcement agencies no matter what the laws regulating the civilian market change to, and since the United States is steadily turning "Blue" pretty much from coast-to-coast, all these miniscule gunmakers are doing is ensuring they will go out of business in the near future.

Not a biggie; not one bit.

[Blandocyte]

16. If citizens don't need these weapons to defend themselves from criminals, why would cops need them?

Cops will just need to learn to be better marksmen with limited capacity weapons. They have all that training, so certainly they can do this. It will be so much safer for the public when they learn to hit what they're aiming for. Maybe they just need double barreled shotguns, anyway.

[caseymoz]

23. Or . . .

Maybe this idiot company is just handing market share to their competitors.

On the other hand, given the price of their weapons, it's more than likely law enforcement wasn't their target market to begin with, and this is a total non-story.

[groundloop]

18. So obviously defenders of the 2nd amendment don't support law enforcement officers

Right wingers are now WEAK ON CRIME.

Can you imagine the right wing outrage if any Democrat had ever suggested limiting the arms available to law enforcement?

[City Lights]

19. Brilliant move, idiots!

The business you lose from this decision will make other gun manufacturers very happy.

[TheCowsCameHome]

20. Be sure to post their bankruptcy notices

so we can all have a hearty laugh.

[Sunlei]

22. so police can do their contract buys from the gazillion other gun sellers.

wonder why a gun dealer would refuse sales to other states, still sell to any state citizen with cash- and not state its out of the goodness of their heart or anything.

Would love to see a list of previous decades sales across state lines, there must be some loopholes gun sellers want to pretend they haven't profited off of.