New images confirm Big Bang theory

[IDemo]

Source: The Telegraph

The "map" of light originating from the dawn of time, captured by the £515m Planck space telescope, reveals patterns which scientists say confirm that the universe began with a Big Bang.

But it also contains subtle differences which contradict certain elements of the Standard Model of cosmology, meaning theories will have to be tweaked.

The images, released on Thursday, suggest that at 13.84 billion years the universe is older than previously thought - albeit by only 48 million years.

They also suggest it contains slightly more matter than expected and a little less "dark energy", the mysterious force which is believed to drive the expansion of the universe.

Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/9946222/New-images-confirm-Big-Bang-theory.html#disqus_thread

[pampango]

1. That's not going to go over well in certain fundamentalist circles unless

it can be spun to be consistent with a 6,000 year old earth.

[Cirque du So-What]

5. Yep. 6,000 years old alright

As I recall, it was on a Monday so He could rest on Sunday.

[MynameisBlarney]

10. Meh

Who cares, lol.
You couldn't tell those people the sky is blue if their silly religion claimed it was orange.

[valerief]

22. Fundies don't believe in photography. It's science, y'know. nt

[LibertyLover]

23. Of course it can be spun -

Shortest form: Satan did it.

Shorter form: God did it to test our faith.

Longer form: In an effort to weaken and destroy our faith in the unchanging and revealed Word of God, the Devil created bogus information that the godless and unbelieving scientists think supports their godless theories on the origin of the universe.

[snooper2]

28. I don't see how it's compatible with religion period...

Actually, you know what, it's not LOL...


Even the warm & fuzzy "Mother Nature God Spiritual stuff" blah blah

All can be explained by science-

We know why the flowers bloom, we know how the continents were formed, we know what "shooting stars" really are. All of that knowledge should be overwhelming and magical in itself without having to assign spirits or "gods" to it

[The2ndWheel]

32. That always seems to be the first comment

I guess it's still funny.

Civilization and religion are intertwined, and both are similar to any organized effort.

Civilization comes around about 6, 7, 10 thousand years ago, give or take. Who's counting at that point. Some religions say the planet is that old, because that's when organized religion starts popping up. Crazy coincidence.

Aren't we supposed to have dominion over the Earth and all that too? We do do that, right? We're not giving up the grip on increasing our total control of everything any time soon. So whoever said or wrote that had the right idea it seems.

[Duer 157099]

2. Does it look like this?

[IDemo]

4. That's dark energy if I ever saw it..

[LongTomH]

18. No, that's Dork Energy!

Ten times as powerful!

Hey, lighten up. I'm a retired programmer and a long-time Star Trek and science fiction fan. I was geek before geek was cool.

[rhett o rick]

8. That's only Sheldon trying to explode someone's brain with vulcan brain power. nm

[onehandle]

3. What part of 6,000 years do scientists not get? nt

[The Wizard]

6. But but but

the Bible.................

[Arkana]

7. Bazinga!

[rhett o rick]

9. good one

[beyurslf]

11. That's just a (poorly) photshopped globe.

We all know the universe is 6000 years old. Sillies!

[AtheistCrusader]

12. Does this still fit with the idea that the universe is flat, and the net energy is 0?

(flat as opposed to an open, or closed universe.)

[Gore1FL]

14. yes n/t

[Gore1FL]

13. Confirm is a poor choice of words.

"Continues to keep the theory irrefutable" is probably better.

[IDemo]

16. But is it irrefudiateable?

[TexasTowelie]

20. Crap!

Where is the NSFW warning?

Or is that the "not suitable for anywhere" warning? Scary!

[Gore1FL]

34. sure

Irrefutable = Impossible to deny or disprove.

As of this latest observation, no one can deny or disprove it. (Many will try to deny it, no doubt.)

[alfredo]

15. Link-New Scientist has a the map and has circled a cold area and possible explanation

for that area.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23301-planck-shows-almost-perfect-cosmos--plus-axis-of-evil.html

[Liberalagogo]

17. Everyone sing!

♪♫♩ ♬♪♫♩ ♬

Our whole universe was in a hot dense state,
Then nearly fourteen billion years ago expansion started. Wait...
The Earth began to cool,
The autotrophs began to drool,
Neanderthals developed tools,
We built a wall (we built the pyramids),
Math, science, history, unraveling the mysteries,
That all started with the big bang!

"Since the dawn of man" is really not that long,
As every galaxy was formed in less time than it takes to sing this song.
A fraction of a second and the elements were made.
The bipeds stood up straight,
The dinosaurs all met their fate,
They tried to leap but they were late
And they all died (they froze their asses off)
The oceans and Pangea
See ya wouldn't wanna be ya
Set in motion by the same big bang!

It all started with the big BANG!

It's expanding ever outward but one day
It will pause and start to go the other way,
Collapsing ever inward, we won't be here, it won't be heard
Our best and brightest figure that it'll make an even bigger bang!

Australopithecus would really have been sick of us
Debating how we're here, they're catching deer (we're catching viruses)
Religion or astronomy (Descartes or Deuteronomy)
It all started with the big bang!

Music and mythology, Einstein and astrology
It all started with the big bang!
It all started with the big BANG!

[lark]

21. Thank you, thank you!

I've been wanting the words to the song for awhile now. I love the show and watch it frequently, always trying to sing along but I missed a few of the words, which I now have thanks to you!

[City Lights]

24. Haha, awesome!

[AnotherDreamWeaver]

19. Oh My, did you see the news the Asteroid is coming back?

http://news.investors.com/politics-andrew-malcolm/021813-644829-asteroid-2012-da-14-missed-earth-narrowly-but-will-return.htm?ven=OutBrainCP

Looks like a direct hit in 2080, see second page of above article...

[defacto7]

26. Looks like an entertaining RW editorial to me....

I'd rather see some realistic science. It may be true (or not) but let's have better sources for such a claim.

[muriel_volestrangler]

29. I think that guy has just made that up

There's nothing anywhere on the web about it apart from people quoting his article from a month ago.

An actual NASA page has its closest pass in 2080 as 0.12 Astronomical Units, ie about 18 million km (compared to 0.00022 AU this February). The next pass that's similar to this year's is 2123 - 0.0002 AU.

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=2012DA14;cad=1#cad

[AnotherDreamWeaver]

35. Thanks, Hope that's correct and we are missed. n/t

[RILib]

30. not soon but eventually

The (actual science) report I saw was not worried about the next (few?) passes, but eventually it will be a problem.

[KamaAina]

25. There was doubt about The Big Bang Theory?

I'm pretty sure they all exist. I sure hope Kaley/Penny does!

[blackspade]

27. Science is so cool.

[timdog44]

33. It sure is.

I have heard stories in my family on my Mom's side about the pet dinosaur they used have. A friend of Dino's.

[LanternWaste]

31. my pastor is an amateur astronomer and spends his vacations at an observatory in the Canary Islands

After reading the thread, I suppose it's the wrong venue to mention that my pastor is an amateur astronomer and spends his vacations at an observatory in the Canary Islands data and number crunching, and has gone nutty-buckets forwarding this story to all my fellow parishioners today.

I'd hate to burst anyone's delicate bubbles. Bless their little hearts.

[indepat]

36. Which begs the question "Did God Create Man or Did Man Create God?" Surely man needs God far more

than God needs man: whatever, surely the creator of this magnificent universe does not need mankind's daily praise nor micro-manages the politics in this country having but 5% of the Earth's population. How unbelievably arrogant it would be to think so.