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marble falls

(57,145 posts)
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 01:31 PM Jun 2013

George Zimmerman wants ‘inflammatory terms’ banned from trial

Source: Yahoo News

George Zimmerman wants ‘inflammatory terms’ banned from trial
The Lookout
By Jason Sickles, an arrives for a pretrial hearing on Thursday. (Joe Burbank/Getty)

“Profiled”

“Vigilante”

“Self-appointed Neighborhood Watch Captain”

“Wannabe cop”

Suspected murderer George Zimmerman’s defense team calls the above list “inflammatory terms” and wants them banned from the opening statements of his trial. Jury selection begins on Monday.

“Some of these terms are disparaging, inappropriate, and if used in trial would serve only to unfairly prejudice the jury by eliciting unfounded connotations and unfair emotional responses,” defense attorney Mark O’Mara wrote in a motion to the court.

<snip>

The request also asks that prosecutors be prohibited from using these phrases during opening statements:

“He got out of the car after the police (or dispatcher) told him not to.”

“He confronted Trayvon Martin.”

Motions seeking to limit evidence in a trial is not uncommon, but seldom target phrases or characterizations.

<snip>

Judge Debra S. Nelson has not yet ruled on the motion. She recently ruled defense lawyers, in their opening statements, would not be permitted to mention pictures of drugs and guns found on Martin's cell phone.

Zimmerman, 29, faces up to life in prison if convicted.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/george-zimmerman-wants-inflammatory-terms-banned-trial-163405912.html



I don't think he stands a chance of this.
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George Zimmerman wants ‘inflammatory terms’ banned from trial (Original Post) marble falls Jun 2013 OP
I should certainly hope he has no chance of prevailing... hlthe2b Jun 2013 #1
Now we know why his lawyer apologized. He's implyng the prosecutor needs to aplogize, too. marble falls Jun 2013 #2
Are these the same fools who were parading around phony vids of Martin's friends? arcane1 Jun 2013 #3
same fools. marble falls Jun 2013 #5
Oh c'mon. What are they going to do, speak in sign language? It's their JOB to inflame! nolabear Jun 2013 #4
Boo fkn hoo. Gimme an effin break. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2013 #6
In addition, Zimmerman's lawyers reflection Jun 2013 #7
Speaking of altered states, look at Zimmerman's eyes... pacalo Jun 2013 #24
I want a house overlooking the coastline at Big Sur, and a Lamborghini! bullwinkle428 Jun 2013 #8
Hopefuly you do and I hope you get your wish. Can I have a ride in your Lambo if it happens? marble falls Jun 2013 #9
George, you killed a human being. Inflammatory language in LuckyLib Jun 2013 #10
An when he accepts a plea bargain and has to elocute,theseare the words he will have say ... marble falls Jun 2013 #11
Terms like MURDERER...KILLER...Armed Animal. SoapBox Jun 2013 #12
You mean like beat and kill? NV Whino Jun 2013 #13
You gotta be kidding me JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #14
Most of that language expresses opinions. None of it is racist or sexist JDPriestly Jun 2013 #15
they also want gun, shot, dead, unarmed, black, and.. frylock Jun 2013 #16
Wants to ban, "“He got out of the car after the police (or dispatcher) told him not to.” Whaa ??? wordpix Jun 2013 #17
So i guess "went Gangsta on me" is NOT out of the question eh? grok Jun 2013 #18
"If we can't put the victim on trial, you shouldn't be able to put the defendant on trial" Tom Ripley Jun 2013 #19
We Have A Winner, Sir! The Magistrate Jun 2013 #20
I think that about sums it up TekGryphon Jun 2013 #21
Wait, that means the prosecution gets a list, too, right? knitter4democracy Jun 2013 #22
let's ban punch, jumped out, bashed my head, scared, self-defense as well Voice for Peace Jul 2013 #34
He doesn't want to be prosecuted; I get that. pacalo Jun 2013 #23
How about "guilty" Fearless Jun 2013 #25
+1! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2013 #29
How about "self appointed judge, jury and executioner? Warpy Jun 2013 #26
Ha! I don't blame him. ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #27
Ha! I'll bet he does! Lil Missy Jun 2013 #28
Mr. Zimmerman would also like his pistol returned and be able to follow the jury home in his truck. gordianot Jun 2013 #30
So basically anything that paints Zimmerman in a negative light is unacceptable? Arkana Jun 2013 #31
"He got out of the car after the police (or dispatcher) told him not to.” Solly Mack Jun 2013 #32
Well naaman fletcher Jun 2013 #33
Has this been ruled on yet? nt Mosby Jul 2013 #35
The thread is from early June... Thor_MN Jul 2013 #36

hlthe2b

(102,331 posts)
1. I should certainly hope he has no chance of prevailing...
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 01:33 PM
Jun 2013

The prosecutor has every right to present his/her case using the terminology appropriate to the case presented.

nolabear

(41,990 posts)
4. Oh c'mon. What are they going to do, speak in sign language? It's their JOB to inflame!
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 01:42 PM
Jun 2013

Just as it's the defenders' job to cast doubt and inflame in the other direction. I can see not letting things not relevant to the case in on wither side (like the photos on the cell phone or other things Zimmerman has said or done before) but if it's part of the case, it's part of the case.

reflection

(6,286 posts)
7. In addition, Zimmerman's lawyers
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 02:06 PM
Jun 2013

would like all references to the death of Trayvon Martin, as well as George Zimmerman's name itself, banned from the discourse and stricken from any official records. Also, all jurors must reside in a sensory deprivation chamber for the duration of the trial, where they will not hear, see, or experience anything.

Now, there is a chance that one or more of the jurors could go into Altered States mode, but that's a risk we have to take in order to ensure that justice prevails.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
24. Speaking of altered states, look at Zimmerman's eyes...
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 11:34 PM
Jun 2013

This is at today's hearing:

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/iloHs6JTqO8zmFxXyrKrTA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/

George Zimmerman at a pretrial hearing Thursday. (Joe Burbank/Getty Images)

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
8. I want a house overlooking the coastline at Big Sur, and a Lamborghini!
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 02:06 PM
Jun 2013

Hopefully, I have a better chance of getting what I want than he does.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
10. George, you killed a human being. Inflammatory language in
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 02:24 PM
Jun 2013

front of a thinking jury should be the least of your worries.

marble falls

(57,145 posts)
11. An when he accepts a plea bargain and has to elocute,theseare the words he will have say ...
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 02:31 PM
Jun 2013

about himself.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
12. Terms like MURDERER...KILLER...Armed Animal.
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 02:40 PM
Jun 2013

Fuck you Zimmerman...you were out to kill anyone of color.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
15. Most of that language expresses opinions. None of it is racist or sexist
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 03:55 PM
Jun 2013

or discriminatory. Those are words of assessment. The jury can judge whether to agree with them or reject them. This will be interesting. The only one that might suggest a fact is “He got out of the car after the police (or dispatcher) told him not to.” The one about "confronting" Trayvon Martin could get the prosecutor in trouble should the defense be able to show that somehow Zimmerman did not confront Martin. So the prosecutor might prefer not to use some of that language.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
17. Wants to ban, "“He got out of the car after the police (or dispatcher) told him not to.” Whaa ???
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 07:02 PM
Jun 2013

I guess he wants to ban all evidence and his movements that night, then.

Next he'll want to ban, "He saw Trayvon Martin walking."

 

grok

(550 posts)
18. So i guess "went Gangsta on me" is NOT out of the question eh?
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 07:45 PM
Jun 2013

It should be in my opinion even though Trayvon used it to describe himself in a text.

Frankly using inflamatory language to put somebody down tells more about the describer than the described.

Either way i think it's best they jury come to their own conclusions without it.

No real need for it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/24/us/zimmermans-lawyers-release-text-messages-of-trayvon-martin.html?_r=0

knitter4democracy

(14,350 posts)
22. Wait, that means the prosecution gets a list, too, right?
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 11:11 PM
Jun 2013

Let's ban:

hood
hoodlum
the n-word in any form
gangsta
rap
delinquent

Feel free to add the other ones Zimmerman and his attorneys have used that are obvious code.

Warpy

(111,319 posts)
26. How about "self appointed judge, jury and executioner?
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 01:01 AM
Jun 2013

Good luck, Georgie, on getting "vigilante" banned, along with "racist pigfucker."

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
27. Ha! I don't blame him.
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 01:11 AM
Jun 2013
“He got out of the car after the police (or dispatcher) told him not to.”


I can definitely see why he wouldn't want the jury to know that.

I don't think he stands a chance of this.


I hope you're right.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
31. So basically anything that paints Zimmerman in a negative light is unacceptable?
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:26 AM
Jun 2013

Yeah, he's not getting this.

Solly Mack

(90,779 posts)
32. "He got out of the car after the police (or dispatcher) told him not to.”
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 08:36 AM
Jun 2013

So he wants to exclude facts from his trial.

Snort

 

naaman fletcher

(7,362 posts)
33. Well
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 02:14 PM
Jun 2013

The actual phrase used was "we don't need you to do that", i'm 50-50 on whether or not that is an instruction not to do something.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
36. The thread is from early June...
Sat Jul 6, 2013, 09:52 PM
Jul 2013

The prosecution rested yesterday, opening statements happened awhile ago.

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