DOJ Civil Rights Staff/Whistleblowers Call for Congressional Investigation Asst USAG T. Perez

[laserhaas]

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Source: Press Release Former SEC OIG David Weber Counsel

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
8:00pm

DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION SENIOR STAFF
ANNOUNCE WHISTLEBLOWER, RETALIATION AND DISCRIMINATION CLAIMS AGAINST SECRETARY OF LABOR NOMINEE TOM PEREZ

MAKE DEMAND FOR DISCRIMINATION AND RETALIATION TO CEASE
AND
CALL FOR CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATIONS


Today, a diverse group of current and former members of the United States Department of Justice Civil Rights Division met with staff of the United States Senate-both Republican and Democrat-to outline substantial misconduct allegations against Assistant Attorney General Tom Perez. Mr. Perez is pending confirmation before the Senate as Secretary of Labor, and is rumored to be considered for a vote as early as this weekend.

Earlier this year, the Civil Rights Division, at the direction of Mr. Perez and his senior staff, began a widespread campaign of disparate treatment discrimination against Civil Rights Division employees who were disabled (mobility; hearing; vision; emotional; physical or mental condition); as well as of protected status based on race; gender; age; and/or parental status. Upon opposing this widespread, unlawful discrimination, DOJ employees have been subjected to an exceptionally hostile work environment and unlawful retaliation.

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David P. Weber, the DOJ whistleblowers’ attorney, issued the following statement: “Tom Perez has been nominated to be the protector of the American workforce. Yet, my clients have reported to Congress that under Mr. Perez, the Civil Rights Division rampantly discriminates against its own workforce, and retaliates against those brave enough to raise their hand.”

Mr. Weber further stated that, “after investigating the complaints of these whistleblowers, it appears it is ‘Opposites Day’ at the Department of Justice. While Mr. Perez and senior management of the Civil Rights Division sue private employers for discrimination and retaliation, they have no hesitance in discriminating against their own disabled, minority, whistleblowing staff. This cannot stand. We call on Congress to investigate these serious allegations, hold Mr. Perez’ nomination pending investigation, and demand that the Attorney General take immediate steps to curtail the discrimination and retaliation.”




Read more: http://www.senseoncents.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/DOJ_CRT_Press_Release_FINAL_7-12-13.pdf

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David Weber Took On the SEC and David Weber Won $580,000 & His Job Back If He Wanted

For those of you who may or may not have viewed the earlier background stories, David Weber is the former Securities and Exchange Commission Office of Inspector General (police of SEC) who was retaliated against for investigating the head management of the SEC for bad faith acts. Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone reported on the initial story, detailing a "Peyton Place" environment. When Mr. Weber felt threatened, he began to carry a gun - and the SEC fired him. But David Weber sued the SEC and prevailed, getting $580,000 and an offer by the SEC to reinstate him. (See my former DU Thread here http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014504933 )

Now, David Weber is utilizing his experience to truly make a difference and is becoming an American Super Hero!

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Here's the entire Press Release on the quest to investigate Mr. Perez;
reprinted with permission. (When WSJ and Mr. Doyle post their LBN's - I will link to it here by UPDATE).

GOODWIN WEBER PLLC
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
8:00pm

DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE CIVIL RIGHTS DIVISION SENIOR STAFF
ANNOUNCE WHISTLEBLOWER, RETALIATION AND DISCRIMINATION CLAIMS AGAINST SECRETARY OF LABOR NOMINEE TOM PEREZ

MAKE DEMAND FOR DISCRIMINATION AND RETALIATION TO CEASE
AND
CALL FOR CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATIONS

Today, a diverse group of current and former members of the United States Department of Justice Civil Rights Division met with staff of the United States Senate-both Republican and Democrat-to outline substantial misconduct allegations against Assistant Attorney General Tom Perez. Mr. Perez is pending confirmation before the Senate as Secretary of Labor, and is rumored to be considered for a vote as early as this weekend.

Earlier this year, the Civil Rights Division, at the direction of Mr. Perez and his senior staff, began a widespread campaign of disparate treatment discrimination against Civil Rights Division employees who were disabled (mobility; hearing; vision; emotional; physical or mental condition); as well as of protected status based on race; gender; age; and/or parental status. Upon opposing this widespread, unlawful discrimination, DOJ employees have been subjected to an exceptionally hostile work environment and unlawful retaliation.

In addition, members of the Civil Rights Division also presented evidence to the Senate today of statistical evidence of disparate impact discrimination under the leadership of Mr. Perez. During Mr. Perez’ time as head of the Civil Rights Division, hiring and employment of Hispanic staff has decreased by a statistically significant percentage. But for discrimination, there is no legal explanation for the decline in minority hiring under Mr. Perez’ leadership.

The DOJ whistleblowers include two senior trial attorneys, one African American female, one Hispanic male; a white disabled female sign language interpreter; a disabled former Voting Rights Section analyst; an African American breast cancer-survivor paralegal specialist; a disabled former paralegal specialist; and the disabled African American architect who designed the only building bearing U.S. Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall’s name, built during his lifetime. Each of these employees is also over age 40, and thus protected under the Age Discrimination in Employment Act. The Hispanic trial attorney whistleblower is the former founder of the national Hispanic Bar Association, as well as a founder of the local, District of Columbia Hispanic Bar Association.

In addition to Goodwin Weber PLLC’s whistleblower clients, approximately ten other DOJ Civil Rights officials have come forward as witnesses and provided corroborating information supporting these allegations. Goodwin Weber PLLC’s investigators met with each witness personally. The whistleblowers and witnesses are residents of the District of Columbia, Virginia, and Maryland. Two are also former residents of California.

According to the DOJ whistleblowers and witnesses, the Perez actions are directed at preserving the positions of political appointees who have “burrowed” into Civil Rights Division through Perez’s patronage. Now, under fiscal constraints, Perez has directed senior DOJ staff to constructively terminate career staff in order to protect the political appointees from a Reduction in Force.

In addition, according to the DOJ whistleblowers, shortly after arriving at DOJ, Perez began apparent attempts at suppressing documentation of EEO violations within the Civil Rights Division. What first appeared to be numerous individual cases of discrimination has now aggregated over time to reveal a systemic practice of intentional noncompliance with federal sector EEO policies applicable to all federal agencies. In this manner, DOJ deflected and minimized the nature and severity of employee requests for EEOC compliance, creating a false and misleading "appearance" of "model agency" compliance within the Civil Rights Division.

The compromised integrity of DOJ civil rights EEOC compliance results not only in past and current harm to the numerous individual complainants who have risked and received retaliation for coming forward, but deceived Congress and the American public by presenting under-reported, inaccurate information to Congress that belies the actual enforcement of civil rights within the Department of Justice.

David P. Weber, the DOJ whistleblowers’ attorney, issued the following statement: “Tom Perez has been nominated to be the protector of the American workforce. Yet, my clients have reported to Congress that under Mr. Perez, the Civil Rights Division rampantly discriminates against its own workforce, and retaliates against those brave enough to raise their hand.”

Mr. Weber further stated that, “after investigating the complaints of these whistleblowers, it appears it is ‘Opposites Day’ at the Department of Justice. While Mr. Perez and senior management of the Civil Rights Division sue private employers for discrimination and retaliation, they have no hesitance in discriminating against their own disabled, minority, whistleblowing staff. This cannot stand. We call on Congress to investigate these serious allegations, hold Mr. Perez’ nomination pending investigation, and demand that the Attorney General take immediate steps to curtail the discrimination and retaliation.”


Mr. Weber is the principal attorney and a certified fraud examiner in Goodwin Weber, PLLC’s Washington, DC Office. He is licensed to practice law in New York, Maryland and the District of Columbia, as well as before the United States Supreme Court. Goodwin Weber PLLC is a boutique law firm with offices in Montgomery County, Maryland, New York City, and the District of Columbia. Mr. Weber is the former Assistant Inspector General for Investigations at the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, and himself a prominent whistleblower. Mr. Weber also teaches fraud, forensic investigation and accounting at the University of Maryland University College. You can read more about Mr. Weber’s practice at www.goodwinweberlaw.com.

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UPDATE 9:16 PM July 12, 2013 - Larry Doyle's - Sense on Cents Blog

Breaking News: DOJ Whistleblowers Charge Assistant AG Thomas Perez with Discrimination, Retaliation et al

[center][div style="display:inline; background-color:#F7F8E0;"]"David Weber Deserves Our Respect" [/center]

[div style="display:inline; background-color:#F7F8E0;"]- - Some are being too quick to rush to judgment and/or pounce upon Mr. Weber; simply because he was on a television show would rather not watch. If Matt Taibbi had a T.V. Network - or DailyKos radio asked him to appear - then we wouldn't have this problem. Nor is Lawrence O'Donnell, Ed Schultz or any other is serving U.S. by presenting David Weber in proper fashion or platform. As there are far too few who stand tall against tyranny, cronyism and corruption. As well as WAY too few ever prevailing (in short order as Mr. Weber has) - one would think Progressive media outlets would rush to promote his good form & character.

To those seeking to disparage David Weber, here's the Democrat - you're falsely inferring is right-wing;

1. - - Mr. Weber, like myself, is a fellow jew. Granted there are some RW yid's; but David ain't one of them.
   
2. - - David was an attorney at Law for a Union
   
3. - - He's from New York City (as am I)
   
4. - - Mr. Weber was part of litigation to halt Bank's abuse in Payday Loans
   
5. - - David represented employees of the National Treasury Union in equal employment opportunity issues
   
6. - - Weber is a member of both Gaithersburg's Police Advisory Commission and Tenant Landord
   
7. - - David has extensive works in forensics, frauds and, as is now well known, the SEC OIG
   
8. - - He is defending disabled, African American and Latino's against big gov bad faith parties like Mr. Perez
   

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- - David Weber is OUR (DU's) type of guy. The SEC put all its power, might and corrupt influence (and press leaks) in a quest to destroy him. - And David Weber BEAT the SEC's Corruption in short order!

-- Is Mr. Weber perfect? Probably not. However, this blogger, Laser (the Liquidator) Haas has come to despise attorneys at law; because every single one that has worked for me - Sold me Out. Yours truly just so happens to be a whistleblower, victim and witness. I'm burdened with the fact that David Weber can't be my counsel; because eToys is an outstanding SEC issue. As a matter of law (and proper jurisprudence on Conflict of Interest ethics) - - Mr. Weber is barred from touching SEC issues - for 2 years from his exit of the SEC.

[center]But I sure wish I could hire him - there would be none better for the job![/center]

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UPDATE July 15, 2013 7:37 pm Pacific - Brand New - LATEST BREAKING NEWS - Wall Street Journal and others now telling the story (see LBN - here)

[sigmasix]

1. but some DUers claim obama kills whistleblowers

How is it possbile that all these whistleblowers have come forward at a time in American history when the president keeps a secret kill list that includes every whistleblower? How long before President Obama's shadowy goons kill or waterboard these whistleblowers? Isnt anyone worried about the whistleblowers' safety?
This is where I would place the sarcasm smilie, for those that don't get it.

[laserhaas]

13. There are bad, good & ugly DUers, just like there are Bad, Good & Ugly Presidents.

- - Yours truly just so happens to be a victim/witness/ whistleblower, so my take is more eclectic than most. This is why David Weber considered me worthy of top persons to be given 1st chance at helping spread the word on this issue.

- - Additionally, I have known, since that outset, items about Barack Obama that even was kept hidden from Hillary. FACTS that would get me banned or barred from most Progressive/Liberal realms due to cognitive dissonance and/or requisite willful blindness of top management (and their funding sources).

1. President Barack Obama has done a very good job - given his/overall circumstances.
2. POTUS persons are never (and can't be) PERFECT - because they swear an oath to America (not just U.S. Dems').
3. Our President is an Administrator exceptional, he has no choice but to pick appointees that "fit" both sides of Program
4. We were all overjoyed to have a non-white POTUS and non-white U.S. Attorney General
5. Sometimes, being careful what you wish for is a reality. (Like tonight my set of Jacks set up Ace 2 - until AJ2 rivered Ace).


-------------------------------------Eric Holder should go and Barack Obama SHOULD stay.


I'm just sayin..........................

[msanthrope]

58. Let's see...you are posting a press release from a right wing lawyer...see

his appearances on Fox posted on his website---and you rail against the 'Obama's' law firm, and you provide not a single actual court document to back up your claims......


What kind of DUer does that???

[merrily]

33. He has prosecuted more whistleblowers than all Presidents in history combined.

So, maybe you're the one who doesn't get it.

[laserhaas]

54. Not "he" (the POTUS) - but "they" - the dark lords in the DOJ serving many masters.

I don't do hemp - but Holder has ignored our REAL case versus Goldman Sachs & Bain Racketeering so much - I almost want to go grow some and send him a pound;

so that I can finally get the frk'rs attention......


I'm just sayin............. the DOJ a games they are playin...........

[merrily]

59. Sorry, he is the President. If he wants the D of J to stop something, it does.

I remember when the D of J was filing brief after brief, comparing homosexuality to bestiality and pedophilia. And his supporters were saying he had no control over the D of J. So, it's not his fault.

Baloney. He could have asked for Holder's resignation.

Then, Obama ordered Holder to stop defending DOMA in circuits that had already ruled it unconstitutional.

And the same people who had claimed that Obama had no control over Holder cheered him because, lo and behold, he had finally ordered Holder to take it down a notch.

If Obama wants Holder to stop something at the D of J, Holder stops it.

[laserhaas]

69. concur on the logic of "If [President] Obama wants Holder to stop - - Holder does" - However, the

KEY in that formula is "IF President Obama wants--"

Have the responsibility for some many and so much, with limited time of day;
a POTUS is choosing between priorities - that Become a Priority.

It is not the President's job to micromanage ever single thing - and he can't (even appear to be) obstructive.

A Policy can be implemented, heads can roll; but cases can NOT be interfered with - except under specific conditions.

[rhett o rick]

2. You wont find any of the DU authoritarians posting in this thread. They hate whistle-blowers.

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Whistle-blowers are a threat to the comfort of their denial bubbles. They also hate pesky investigative journalists, CT, and liberals. The love their conservative denial bubbles.

On edit: I was wrong. They will pop in but not to discuss the issue.

[forestpath]

4. And they'd have to defend somebody OBAMA nominated who's accused of RACIST actions.

[laserhaas]

23. Assumptions is the mother of all f---- ups!

If "they" defend waterboarding - we kick their arse's accordingly.....

Same thing here.


But the powers that be did not LOCK the thread (as is within their power);
so I'd cut them some slack - we have a good thing going here (much better than DK).

[msanthrope]

9. It took me awhile...I had to stop laughing long enough at the fact that DUers

took a press release from a boutique DC law firm and think it means anything. David Weber is a very good lawyer, but at the minimum, don't you think you might want to read the relevant court documents, as opposed to a press release?

[laserhaas]

24. Considering the source (David Weber) - I'll have his back (unless he gives me a reason to otherwise)

LBN is not for "what a poll of DUers wished were LBN"

but what is LBN on subjects that we "should" be addressing............

[laserhaas]

25. Snowden's motivation is not paramount to the NSA issue revealed. And neither is Weber being boutique

If you have "the relevant" documents and "more" relevant info on Mr. Perez (the paramount issue at hand).

Then - by all means - enlighten U.S.


------------------------------------- N'est-ce pas!

[merrily]

35. Yes, because no one at DU starts cheering obama before reading all the relevant court documents.

All they have to do is read is some press release from the WH or some government agency.

Took me a while to stop laughing at the double standards.

[laserhaas]

55. Double-mindedness is any Administrations way

This is why Governor Siegelman is still incarcerated by Karl Rove;
because things are going on (double dealing wise) - that "we" don't know ----- (and possible would never care to know).

Cognitive dissonance being what it is these days......

[merrily]

57. My post was about double standards of DU posters, not the Administration.

I was replying to Reply #9.

[laserhaas]

14. If we were all smarter Progressives, we'd be less pompous and more tolerant/ understanding.

Do you want a DU realm of unity of purpose?

----------------------------------------------- Or would you rather be able to rant only on FB & Twitter?


I'm just sayin.............. we should cut the powers upon high here some slack and be thankful for the realm.

[merrily]

36. I don't think "authoritarians" was intended as a reference to DU's PTB.

I think it was a comment about ordinary posters who always seem to on the the side of government PTB.

[laserhaas]

44. okay ---n.t

[rhett o rick]

64. Thank you for making that clear. nm

[merrily]

65. You're welcome, but it wasn't clear until you confirmed.

I was only giving my interpretation.


You are the expert on what you meant!

[laserhaas]

70. My RICO Complaint is being rewritten for just this very reason. An editor reviewing said -

they "WHO" - who is they.

He did - who is he.

Though we believe people "get" our line of discussion as fluent, this man
(who edited legal briefs for a living) -------- said t'aint so!

In our quest to save time and be succinct - we leave open much to be presumed/ assumed - Often!

[Cha]

28. Oh, all you have are whinyass ignorant name calling insults..

you poor thing

Why don't you just stick to what you know and stop worrying about others who don't agree with you?

[laserhaas]

29. Wow - well said

though I would change the end to "others you don't agree with"


But COOL!

[merrily]

37. How is "Whinyass" {sic} not "an ignorant name calling insult" to someone who disagrees with you?

[laserhaas]

45. well put

[rhett o rick]

42. Can you spell P R O J E C T I O N? nm

[laserhaas]

46. Feuding McCoy's vs Hatfield's here and off topic I fear....

just a sayin.... why can't we be a nicely playin.......

[merrily]

47. Well, he or she couldn't spell "whiney ass."

I didn't want to go there, because I make a lot of typos, but you forced me to.

Don't deny it. You left me no choice.

[laserhaas]

51. Neither could I at 2:40 a.m. in the morning

[merrily]

34. I assume you missed Reply 1?

[rhett o rick]

43. Yes, who is the poster? nm

[laserhaas]

52. ahem ---- R U tryin to "out" somebody

shame, shame....

[rhett o rick]

61. Good grief. I must have them on ignore. What's this "out" crap. nm

[laserhaas]

67. LOL - everyone is being so temperamental - I was trying to break the ice;

silly me.....

[msanthrope]

56. Rick...did you check out the Cavuto and Fox pieces with the Webers downthread?

And the poster here referring to the Obamas lawfirm? Hear the whistles?

[laserhaas]

68. Must be the ones going off through hollow ears

Your inferences demonstrate a large ability to be biased and obtuse to a detrimental fashion.

[forestpath]

3. And Obama NOMINATED this cruel, vicious bigot WHY?

[msanthrope]

11. Because Obama doesn't base policy decisions on press releases from boutique DC

law firms who are trying to get money for their clients.

[laserhaas]

26. Your right, he basis policy on those law firms (like Sidley & Austin whence he/Michele came from)

Who have MUCH BIGGER clients................

[merrily]

38. And those government employees went to a lawyer in the first place why exactly?

[laserhaas]

48. er -- um - uh, your assum'ee is that "lawyer in the first place" - t'aint

keeping in line with the facts already in evidence.

If they are complaining about the party to whom they are being retaliated upon (whence they went to complain about labor issues in the first place) - then the attorney was obviously (at least) - Option 2.

Be that as it may, Perez is to be confirmed in short order. Gathering together and hiring counsel (who - himself - already knows the right pathway to go from his SEC OIG fired = rehired after suing = experience);

along with other factors that we definitely don't have in evidence (who spoke to whom, when, where, why and how)

seems just course to me.

[laserhaas]

15. Because his advisors told him it was okay and it served a purpose in so doing.

Now the nomination is most definitely in jeopardy - as it should be!

Our POTUS can only go through the motions and trust his advisers (usually politicos and attorneys)
------------------------------------ and let the process ferret it all out.

[PragmaticLiberal]

5. I'm shocked about these allegations.

Perez has always had a very good reputation....

[laserhaas]

16. LOL --- you need a spanking (you neglected your snark tag)

Yes - there are some that Need It......

[merrily]

39. So did Timmy Geithner after the 2008 economic collapse and Gates after Iraq and Afhanistan and,

well, who has time to detail all the great nominess?

[laserhaas]

53. Ta Dah!

[PragmaticLiberal]

60. You have a legitimate point.....

But with that being said, I know people who've had personal dealings with him and they paint a different picture.

But you never know......

[merrily]

62. Personal dealings with whom?

Regardless of who it is, what does that have to do with whether someone is a good public official?

I hear Scalia is a charmer and Ginsburd is very fond of him personally. Doesn't make him an honest judge.

[laserhaas]

66. Correct. The man (Barry Gold) whom Romney/Traub utilized to usurp me in eToys; cracked me up

often - is a stutterer - and a real charmer.

Steal stole from me, eToys shareholders, honorable creditors (what few there were)

and I'm damnation bent to make sure he is arrested. (once they yank him out of my chair).

[lunasun]

6. No hesitance in discriminating against his own disabled? Also dude a little self loathing maybe...

In addition, members of the Civil Rights Division also presented evidence to the Senate today of statistical evidence of disparate impact discrimination under the leadership of Mr. Perez.
During Mr. Perez’ time as head of the Civil Rights Division, hiring and employment of Hispanic staff has decreased by a statistically significant percentage.
But for discrimination, there is no legal explanation for the decline in minority hiring under Mr. Perez’ leadership.

And this person is minutes away from becoming the next Sec of Labor ?????????
Oh well at least he knows how to handle whistle blowers eh?
or am I missing something and this guy will serve his cabinet post well?

[laserhaas]

17. PLEASE help get this story out there - as the powers that be will try their best to nix its growth

You know, politicos looking for reward, do things like that.....

[Major Nikon]

7. Don't piss off the civil rights staff. They know the law.

Hard to believe this guy wasn't vetted better than this. Sounds like these complaints have been in the works for a while.

[laserhaas]

18. Hey, Clarence Thomas was vetted (and much worse than what Anita said)

But they got him through - phony swear in ceremony and All!

[Major Nikon]

21. The difference is there would have been a significant paper trail

Complaints both administratively through EEO and in civil courts appear to have been initiated against Perez. Also you can't have a case of retaliation unless at least one previous complaint had been filed. So from what I've seen there appears to be numerous complaints possibly going back some time. This would entail official government investigations as well as discovery motions from lawyers. That's not the kind of thing you can sweep under the rug and hope nobody notices.

[laserhaas]

27. Concur 'Major Nikon' -- be that as it may - TRY they did

and thanks to David Weber taking on the case - and Congressmen/women giving him time of day.......


We now have a chance to see the light and pull up the rug

--------------------------------- because (at least U.S. DUers here and those we tell) are noticing!

[mountain grammy]

8. His nomination should be dropped immediately, too much smoke here.

Now lets hope the president can nominate someone who will energize the NLRB. Robert Reich comes to mind. That sure would go a long way to restore the faith.

[msanthrope]

10. This is a press release from a DC boutique law firm. That's what the President should base policy

on??

[laserhaas]

20. Oh - I don't know, should the Prez base his policy on a jail bird

Say like - Nelson Mandella!

--------------------------------------- You can argue better than that - RIGHT (er - I mean Correct)!

[laserhaas]

19. Hey, we got U.S. a Liz Warren, - Reich would be great

How about a Rev Jesse Jackson

(- er, I'm sorry, did you just see the gun lobby foam at the mouth - given the GZ 'Scot Free' verdict, its SYG kill a non-white


WEEKLY.......)

[merrily]

40. Reich seems a lot braver and more populist when not himself part of a Third Way administration.

[laserhaas]

50. Would be a good GD issue. - If you could pick your perfect government - Who Would you Pick

for what position - and why....

[merrily]

63. Like a baseball Rotissiere?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

12. These clowns go on Neil Cavito's show and spout Right Wing crap.

http://goodwinweberlaw.com/attorneys/david-p-weber/

http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/cavuto/index.html#http://video.foxnews.com/v/2475192017001/did-snowden-send-wrong-message-by-fleeing/?playlist_id=87065

[laserhaas]

22. I would trust David Weber with my bank account and my life. And Snowden was (still may be) RWNJ

The man stood tall against tyranny, cronyism and corruption; risking career and maybe even more.

Don't assail character - in an U.S. v them hard-line mindset.

Would you rather Perez not get noticed for the tool that he is?


--------- I'm just sayin..............

[laserhaas]

32. By the way, the video is not the damning evidence you infer it to be

The guy was on a right wing talk show - SO WHAT - I'll go on there too, since no left wing is doing the Romney RICO story.....

and as far as his remarks that the Administration is doing wrong

DUH -

It sure the hell is

[Laelth]

30. k&r for exposure. n/t

-Laelth

[laserhaas]

31. Thanks - Laeth

We shall welcome being "exposed"....

[merrily]

41. Only in the summertime, tho. Being exposed in wintertime can lead to complications.

[laserhaas]

49. :oP