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Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:26 AM Jul 2013

Brian Schweitzer surprise: Not running for Senate

Source: Politico

Former Democratic Gov. Brian Schweitzer said Saturday he won’t run for the Senate in Montana — a surprise development that imperils Democrats’ chances of holding the seat in 2014.

He told the Associated Press that he wants to stay in Montana rather than move to Washington, D.C. But his potential candidacy was also raising red flags within the party: After weeks of courting the 57-year-old Schweitzer, Democratic leaders reversed course. Scrutinizing Schweitzer’s past, they concluded there was too much ammunition for Republicans to use against him in the campaign to replace the retiring veteran Democrat Max Baucus, according to a source familiar with the thinking of those leaders.

Polls had shown the gregarious and folksy ex-governor as a favorite in the race, given his popularity after two terms in office.

Schweitzer had been hit with a series of damaging stories about his ties to “secret money” and a nonprofit group run by former aides. But sources said the laundry list of opposition research went much deeper — and could have crippled a Schweitzer campaign for Senate.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/07/brian-schweitzer-senate-2014-94111.html?hp=bn

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Brian Schweitzer surprise: Not running for Senate (Original Post) Freddie Stubbs Jul 2013 OP
Since he is not running, why did they bother smearing him to the press? merrily Jul 2013 #1
They smear to attach the slime to any other Democrat. They did the same thing here in North Carolina Ford_Prefect Jul 2013 #2
damn grasswire Jul 2013 #3
Damn. The poo flingers win again Brother Buzz Jul 2013 #4
Dammit, premium Jul 2013 #5
OK, so WHAT is the DLC doing to help get a NEW candidate that can win? DontTreadOnMe Jul 2013 #6
Not sure that's a good idea. ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2013 #9
Well there you have it... that is the problem right there. DontTreadOnMe Jul 2013 #11
A far left progressive in Montana? premium Jul 2013 #12
Moderates from states like these who Lee-Lee Jul 2013 #13
And that's why we need to run a moderate Dem premium Jul 2013 #14
The only signal that would send would be how clueless the Dem party is. DCBob Jul 2013 #16
Yeah right, because we all know how well Max Baucus was for HealthCare DontTreadOnMe Jul 2013 #19
Max Baucus was the best we could expect to get from MT NickB79 Jul 2013 #31
Dude, put down the bowl jmowreader Jul 2013 #20
Typical defeatist attitude: "Dem Lite is as good as it gets" DontTreadOnMe Jul 2013 #26
Scott Brown is a bad example jmowreader Jul 2013 #29
So if we are "never" going to get it anyway... DontTreadOnMe Jul 2013 #30
Because the GOP could run a moderate-right candidate NickB79 Jul 2013 #32
"I would rather run run a Progressive and lose, than a Dem Lite and "win"." Arkana Jul 2013 #33
UH, the DSCC...not the DLC. Ken Burch Jul 2013 #22
He "dont tread" in a library, either...eom Kolesar Jul 2013 #25
He may have withdrawn because of fear I suppose. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #7
I meant "sad"! Love dad. xtraxritical Jul 2013 #18
God please not Senator Rehberg neverforget Jul 2013 #8
I lovr him for this quote: Ptah Jul 2013 #10
crap. this is not good news. DCBob Jul 2013 #15
Maybe still some hope.. DCBob Jul 2013 #17
I like Stephanie. BlueMTexpat Jul 2013 #27
He gave one of the best speeches at the Democratic Convenetion last summer.... ReRe Jul 2013 #21
Yes he did.. DCBob Jul 2013 #23
Like I said, time will tell. ;-) n/t ReRe Jul 2013 #28
He isn't very interested in being "token hillbilly" in the Democrat caucus, Sen. Walter Sobchak Jul 2013 #24
That's a shame. Beacool Jul 2013 #34

merrily

(45,251 posts)
1. Since he is not running, why did they bother smearing him to the press?
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:33 AM
Jul 2013

Seems gratuitous.

P.S. What is "secret money?"

Ford_Prefect

(7,901 posts)
2. They smear to attach the slime to any other Democrat. They did the same thing here in North Carolina
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:43 AM
Jul 2013

The smear attacks are to damage anyone from the same party or anyone running on the same issues. Unfortunately it seems to be effective mostly because every time someone else is mentioned as a Democratic candidate the tag line will be about why Schweitzer chose not to run. The echo chamber effects keep the scandal tag alive no matter whether it was true or not, and keeps the meme going that anyone from that party or with those political issues has something shady behind them.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
3. damn
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 11:43 AM
Jul 2013

and damn politico.

I was hoping for a Dean/Schweitzer ticket some day.

But with all the crapola in politics today, what's a little secret money? It ain't a secret if the stories are out. Did he have sex with sheep or something?

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
5. Dammit,
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 12:16 PM
Jul 2013

he was our best hope of hanging on to that Senate seat, this will probably be a p/u for the repubs in 2014.

 

DontTreadOnMe

(2,442 posts)
6. OK, so WHAT is the DLC doing to help get a NEW candidate that can win?
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 01:38 PM
Jul 2013

What is Obama doing to help find someone as well?

I would like to see the President ENDORSE the new candidate, live on TV, and get a huge public bump and publicity.

 

DontTreadOnMe

(2,442 posts)
11. Well there you have it... that is the problem right there.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 04:39 PM
Jul 2013

So the only way to win is a Dem Lite in Montana? How about running far-left Progressives, and if you don't win - it sends a signal to the rest of the country where the Democratic Party stands for.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
12. A far left progressive in Montana?
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 04:42 PM
Jul 2013

Any far left progressive that ran for the Senate in MT. would be lucky to get even 1000 votes.
 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
13. Moderates from states like these who
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:15 PM
Jul 2013

caucus with Democrats give the majorities needed to let the more progressive members from other states get things done.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
14. And that's why we need to run a moderate Dem
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 05:19 PM
Jul 2013

for that seat, no far left progressive would stand a chance in MT.

 

DontTreadOnMe

(2,442 posts)
19. Yeah right, because we all know how well Max Baucus was for HealthCare
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 07:47 PM
Jul 2013

Yeah... let's run a Moderate Dem... which is just another acronym for Republican.

The Tea Party can run is states like Ohio and Massachusetts, but a Progressive in Montana... unthinkable!
No wonder we make no headway.

"Senate Finance Committee chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., scolded Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius on Wednesday over the implementation of President Obama’s health care law. Complaining about confused individuals and small businesses in his state and warning of a coming “train wreck,” at times Baucus sounded more like a Tea Partier than one of the key authors of the legislation that would become known as Obamacare. But his posture during the Finance Committee hearing is also a telling sign that Democrats up for reelection in 2014 are increasingly worried that mangled implementation could put their jobs in jeopardy."

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
31. Max Baucus was the best we could expect to get from MT
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 02:02 AM
Jul 2013

Face the fact: not all states have the liberal base to support the same type of candidate you could find winning in New York City or California.

Yeah, Baucus sucked on a lot of liberal issues. HOWEVER, he was heads and shoulders above ANY GOP/Teabag challenger he ran against.

As the old saying goes: "Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good."

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
20. Dude, put down the bowl
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 10:03 PM
Jul 2013

I don't think there even ARE any far-left Progressives in Montana, much less ones who could run for office and win. It is a bit less red than Idaho over there, but considering how red Idaho is that's not saying much.

Dem Lite is as good as it gets.

 

DontTreadOnMe

(2,442 posts)
26. Typical defeatist attitude: "Dem Lite is as good as it gets"
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 10:40 AM
Jul 2013

I know plenty of younger people who grew up in Colorado who moved to Montana. It is a small population state. At least TRY to make a movement for a progressive candidate.

I would rather run run a Progressive and lose, than a Dem Lite and "win". Because we all know how important it is to have the MAJORITY in the Senate, see how much we get done!

Time for Dems in Montana to grow a spine. Stand for SOMETHING, other than Dem Lite. Running candidates like Max Baucus HURTS the Party.

The GOP ran a Senate candidate in Massachusetts named Scott Brown - AND WON, so [lease don't lecture me about about a Red State can't be turned Blue. No one EVER THOUGHT a Republican could take Ted Kennedy's seat, but it happened. It took 4 years to get that seat back.

jmowreader

(50,559 posts)
29. Scott Brown is a bad example
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 01:58 PM
Jul 2013

First, Mass has elected Republicans before Scott Brown - remember Mitt Romney?

Second, Mass has teabaggers, and they vote.

More importantly, Brown ran against someone who thought she didn't have to campaign. She was also completely out of touch...when she found out Curt Schilling was campaigning for Brown, she said something like "why should I care what a Yankees fan thinks?" (Curt Schilling is the Red Sox' ace, or at least was then.)

Martha Coakley thought history would hand her the seat, so she handed it to Scott Brown.

There are ten states I think the Democrats need to just write off, and Montana is one of them. We're not going to get it, or Alaska, Idaho, Wyoming, Kansas, Utah, either Dakota, Nebraska or Oklahoma.

A little story from the trenches. Last year I helped a nice Democratic woman named Anne Nesse campaign for the Idaho state House. Her opponent was Kathy Sims. Rep. Sims was a backer of the Luna education deform laws that went down in flames at the polls. Anne bought thousands of yard signs. She canvassed. She did all the things a candidate should. When she knocked on doors, the voters asked her three questions: which church do you go to, will you vore to ban abortion in Idaho, and what is your position on gay rights? (The expected answers were any fundamentalist church, yes, and I'm against expanding gay rights - and in Idaho, they would still be kicking in doors and prosecuting people for non-missionary-position sex if the Supreme Court hadn't made them stop.) Kathy Sims bought one full-page ad in the paper the Sunday before the election defending her Neandertal positions, one 2x3 ad every day for six weeks before the election, did no canvassing, printed no new yard signs and won 75 percent of the vote.

And frankly, I don't care. I would rather have Arizona and Texas, which the Republicans are in the process of giving away - for some reason I don't think the voters will look kindly on politicians who cease work on things like the economy so they can focus on an issue that only remotely affects their personal lives - than I would Idaho and Montana.

 

DontTreadOnMe

(2,442 posts)
30. So if we are "never" going to get it anyway...
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 02:57 PM
Jul 2013

They why NOT run a left Progressive and make the candidate on the Right look extreme!

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
32. Because the GOP could run a moderate-right candidate
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 02:06 AM
Jul 2013

And make the left Progressive candidate look extreme in a turn-around.

Besides, the end result would still be a win for the GOP and a feeling of momentum on their part to drum up more support nationally.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
33. "I would rather run run a Progressive and lose, than a Dem Lite and "win"."
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 11:19 AM
Jul 2013

And this attitude right here is why Republicans always win--because they're willing to run the types of candidates that win in each state.

Ptah

(33,032 posts)
10. I lovr him for this quote:
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 03:03 PM
Jul 2013

"I am not goofy enough to be in the House, and I'm not senile enough to be in the Senate."

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
15. crap. this is not good news.
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 06:59 PM
Jul 2013

I wonder why.. there must be more to do with it than what stated in the article.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
17. Maybe still some hope..
Sat Jul 13, 2013, 07:08 PM
Jul 2013

from the article..

In Montana, Democrats said Saturday they still had a chance and there were other possible Democratic candidates who could give Republicans a serious run. Those potential Democratic candidates include Denise Juneau, Montana’s state public schools superintendent; Stephanie Schriock, the president of Emily’s List; and Monica Lindeen, Montana insurance commissioner.

I hope one of these ladies can pull it off.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
21. He gave one of the best speeches at the Democratic Convenetion last summer....
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 05:17 AM
Jul 2013

Last edited Sun Jul 14, 2013, 11:22 AM - Edit history (1)

... I think they canned him because he was far to the left of Baucus. He wasn't "DLC" material. Maybe they made him an offer he couldn't refuse and he refused? Time will tell, won't it?

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
24. He isn't very interested in being "token hillbilly" in the Democrat caucus,
Sun Jul 14, 2013, 07:17 AM
Jul 2013

And the morons would have a field day with his work with Al Safi in Saudi Arabia, which has ties to the Saudi Bin Laden Group, which in Fox News mouth-breather land puts him in the cave with Osama plotting 9/11. They would be calling for him to be sent to Gitmo and executed for treason.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
34. That's a shame.
Mon Jul 15, 2013, 11:22 AM
Jul 2013

The Republicans are already gloating. They think that it will be an easy Senate seat pick for them.

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