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Galraedia

(5,026 posts)
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 10:21 PM Jul 2013

Groundswell: A Secret Tape Reveals How It Lobbied Boehner and Issa on Benghazi

Source: Mother Jones

As Mother Jones revealed last week, Groundswell, the hush-hush right-wing strategy group partly led by Ginni Thomas, the wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, wanted to hype the Benghazi tragedy into a full-fledged scandal for the Obama administration, as part of its "30 front war" on the president and progressives. A secret audio tape of one of Groundswell's weekly meetings shows that prominent members of the group pressed House Speaker John Boehner and Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), the chair of the House oversight committee, to expand the Benghazi investigation and make this supposed scandal a top-priority for congressional Republicans. This recording indicates Groundswell's mission extends beyond message coordination to scandal-stoking.

The tape has been posted at Crooks and Liars, a progressive web site, and it captured the first 20 minutes of Groundswell's May 8 meeting. (The site does not say how the recording was obtained.) The meeting opened with a prayer ("Father, we thank you for the opportunity to gather here as free Americans&quot , and a roll call was taken. Among those present were former GOP Rep. Allen West, Frank Gaffney of the Center for Security Policy, Jerry Boykin of the Family Research Council, Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch, Stephen Bannon of Breitbart News, and Ginni Thomas. Catherine Engelbrecht, a founder of True the Vote, led the meeting, and the first order of business was a report on the Benghazi controversy from Boykin and Gaffney.

The pair reported on meetings they had held the previous night with Boehner and Issa. The two Groundswellers had encouraged the lawmakers to set up a special committee to investigate the attacks on the US facilities in Benghazi. Boykin, according to the recording, noted that Boehner had said he wanted the process "to play out" first, apparently meaning that he wasn't yet ready to step up the GOP Benghazi campaign. Boehner, Boykin recounted, had expressed the concern that were he to create such a committee, the media would cover it as a political stunt designed to bring down Obama.

Boykin, a retired general and Christian fundamentalist who caused a dust-up in 2003 when he gave a speech (while still on active duty) saying that his god was "a real god" and Allah was an "idol," told the Groundswellers that he expected the Benghazi matter to blossom into a full-blown scandal: "We've got an ugly baby here and it's going to get uglier." He maintained that "we're going to find...a huge deception."

Read more: http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/07/groundswell-secret-tape-boehner-issa-benghazi

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Groundswell: A Secret Tape Reveals How It Lobbied Boehner and Issa on Benghazi (Original Post) Galraedia Jul 2013 OP
Groundsmell. nt SunSeeker Jul 2013 #1
I was thinking with Thomas, Boehner, and Issa they should name it matthews Jul 2013 #2
Yes, and "Headswell" seems Cha Jul 2013 #5
The plot thickens around groundsmell! sheshe2 Jul 2013 #3
Boner showed some political good sense but apparently went to the bar after that meeting wordpix Jul 2013 #4
We need to pound the press with this one if they are not listening Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2013 #6
Our press is afraid of stepping on toes... midnight Jul 2013 #9
I guess 'the powers that be' pays the mortgage and their private school fees? Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2013 #11
Yep... midnight Jul 2013 #23
By the way...Allen West is NOT a Rep. He lost his election. titaniumsalute Jul 2013 #7
Common Cause has maintained that Justice Thomas had a conflict of interest w/ Citizens United case midnight Jul 2013 #8
It was never a scandal except for the scandal trying to make a scandal. My RW friend used to send Thinkingabout Jul 2013 #10
There was absolutely no cover-up. JDPriestly Jul 2013 #14
Exactly! Groundsmell just turned on their spin machine & was relying on the stupidity of the sheeple hue Jul 2013 #17
"Father, we thank you for the opportunity to gather here as free Americans" Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2013 #12
everyone loves a whistleblower.... dtom67 Jul 2013 #13
The Repubbie Chickehawks are fully guilty & caused the Behghazi tragedy Berlum Jul 2013 #15
Looks like Boykin is a Dominionist egold2604 Jul 2013 #16
Thanks for posting Galraedia!!! hue Jul 2013 #18
So heaven05 Jul 2013 #19
Paging Pelosi Doctor_J Jul 2013 #20
The longer they play with stupid, the longer they'll be stupid. toby jo Jul 2013 #21
and of course ut oh Jul 2013 #22
 

matthews

(497 posts)
2. I was thinking with Thomas, Boehner, and Issa they should name it
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 10:35 PM
Jul 2013

GroundSquirrel. Except I like squirrels.

sheshe2

(83,785 posts)
3. The plot thickens around groundsmell!
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 10:40 PM
Jul 2013
As of yet, Boykin, Gaffney, and the other Groundswellers have not gotten the special Benghazi committee they wanted. But the recording shows that Groundswell has access to the top leaders of the GOP, and its reps are not reluctant to pressure those pols.

from your link.

The top leaders of the GOP. Bought and paid for!

Thanks Galraedia!

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
4. Boner showed some political good sense but apparently went to the bar after that meeting
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 10:41 PM
Jul 2013

He forgot the reasons NOT to create a political stunt

midnight

(26,624 posts)
8. Common Cause has maintained that Justice Thomas had a conflict of interest w/ Citizens United case
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 11:47 PM
Jul 2013



"And Common Cause has maintained that Justice Thomas had a conflict of interest when he participated in the Citizens United case because his wife at the time was running a conservative nonprofit fighting the "tyranny" of President Barack Obama that would benefit from removing limits on such groups' spending and fundraising. With her involvement in Groundswell—which zeroes in on contentious issues that come before the high court, including voting rights, abortion, and gay marriage—Ginni Thomas continues to be intricately associated with matters on which her husband may have to render a decision. Ginni Thomas did not respond to requests for comment."

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
10. It was never a scandal except for the scandal trying to make a scandal. My RW friend used to send
Tue Jul 30, 2013, 11:50 PM
Jul 2013

Lots of emails about the Benghazi and IRS scandal but guess what, they just died a slow death. I knew Issa was full of crap but his crap did not hold for him. New name for Issa, Issa stupid stupid a$$hole.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
14. There was absolutely no cover-up.
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 04:19 AM
Jul 2013

The video of the attack was available if not the next day, very soon after. The whole "scandal" was a ridiculous made-up story.

hue

(4,949 posts)
17. Exactly! Groundsmell just turned on their spin machine & was relying on the stupidity of the sheeple
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 07:59 AM
Jul 2013
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
12. "Father, we thank you for the opportunity to gather here as free Americans"
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 12:54 AM
Jul 2013

They pictured this as they said that...

dtom67

(634 posts)
13. everyone loves a whistleblower....
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 01:08 AM
Jul 2013

When the whistle is blown in their favor.

Sorry, couldn't help myself.....

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
15. The Repubbie Chickehawks are fully guilty & caused the Behghazi tragedy
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 05:17 AM
Jul 2013

...when they SLASHED the budget for State Dept. security. What they hell did they think would happen? Well it did happen, and they are culpable all the way.

This Groundsmell thingy reeks of the same rotten reality.

egold2604

(369 posts)
16. Looks like Boykin is a Dominionist
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 07:25 AM
Jul 2013

The Christian right wants to establish a Dominionist Theocracy where our "Christian" soldiers will attack and rule the rest of the world and bring them under their version of Christ the Avenger's rule

Boykin, a retired general and Christian fundamentalist who caused a dust-up in 2003 when he gave a speech (while still on active duty) saying that his god was "a real god" and Allah was an "idol,"
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
19. So
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 11:44 AM
Jul 2013

these people have been at this for years so it's good that at least we have one tape of their nefarious activity.

ut oh

(895 posts)
22. and of course
Wed Jul 31, 2013, 02:08 PM
Jul 2013

nothing will be done about this and it'll be swept under the rug...

Of course all of this scheming is Obama's fault anyway. It was all his plan to fake a scandal dontchaknow?

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