Larry Summers Gets 'Full-Throated Defense' From Obama In Capitol Hill Meeting, Lawmaker Says
Source: The Huffington Post
WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama gave a "full-throated defense" of Larry Summers in a closed meeting with House Democrats Wednesday, according to a lawmaker in the room, but said hes nowhere near making a decision on who will be the next Federal Reserve chairman.
Summers, along with Janet Yellen, are reportedly the top contenders for the Fed post. White House adviser Dan Pfeiffer said Wednesday that no decision will be made until the fall, but that hasnt stopped people from speculating about the frontrunner.
During Wednesdays meeting, one Democratic lawmaker, who requested anonymity, said the president became agitated and rose to Summers defense in response to Rep. Ed Perlmutter (D-Colo.) walking up to the microphone and simply saying, "Larry Summers. Bad Choice."
In paraphrasing Obama's response, the lawmaker said the president replied, "Hey, don't talk sh*t about him because he's actually a pretty good guy. And then he said, 'If somebody talked sh*t about you like that, I'd defend you too."' (The lawmaker added that Obama didn't use the expletive.)
Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/31/larry-summers-obama_n_3682908.html
I hope that he doesn't choose Summers.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)for Obama.
Well, he keeps defending idiots like Summers.
AndyA
(16,993 posts)You can't bring about CHANGE when you keep the same people responsible for the problems around. We need a clean sweep for a CHANGE!
Nay
(12,051 posts)be all over him. That's why a dem was allowed to be prez the last 2 terms -- the PTB knew that's the only way the most reactionary shit could be done.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)So, in addition to who would forgive and forget over at Just-us, the ownership class looks to have made certain things clear and one of them was who would get to control the Pentagon cough Gates and another the Treasury cough Geithner. and to make sure no one of any import gets to say anything on the tee vee about it, we get Sunstein.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)He has proven time and again to be on the side of big corporations.
You know they don't like it when you point out facts.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)I'm too old to care
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Obama gets what Obama wants.
He ain't no progressive, so we might as well quit wishing he enacts progressive policies. Yes, I do realize he helped with DADT. I'm referring to progressive economic policies.
Beacool
(30,249 posts)The presidents irritation wasnt just reserved for Perlmutter. According to two Democrats in the room, Obama also ripped The Huffington Post for making Summers, in the presidents words, a progressive whipping boy.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)We're no good to him.
Beacool
(30,249 posts)Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Or, "We can't have the Republicans win, now can we?"
To me, looks like Republicans won in 2008 and 2012.
Beacool
(30,249 posts)You think the President would have stopped riding the fence if Binden didn't push him off to support same sex marriage?
former9thward
(32,016 posts)VPs do not put their presidents in that position. Biden was told to take that position as a trial balloon. No one shot at it so Obama moved to that position.
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts). . . on the subject? Is that what you are saying? Because you can't really have it both ways. Just sayin'.
former9thward
(32,016 posts)And if I did I would call it a "little white lie". That is why Obama used the "a little out over his skis". A vague phrase that does not say anything and can have a hundred different meanings.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Let me pre-emptively say that it does indeed make things somewhat better for health care "consumers."
But it makes things a WHOLE LOT better for insurance companies.
It was, after all, a plan hatched by the Heritage Foundation and first implemented by rMoney.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Yes, dried shit is easier to deal with than warm gooey shit, too.
pampango
(24,692 posts)The legislature amended Romney's plan, adding a Medicaid expansion for children and imposing an assessment on firms with 11 or more workers who do not offer health coverage. The assessment is intended to equalize the contributions to the free care pool from employers that offer and do not offer coverage. The General Court also rejected Romney's provision allowing high-deductible health plans.
Romney vetoed eight sections of the health care legislation, including a $295-per-person fee on businesses with 11 employees or more that do not provide health insurance. Romney also vetoed provisions providing dental and eyeglass benefits to poor residents on the Medicaid program, and providing health coverage to senior and disabled legal immigrants not eligible for federal Medicaid. However, the state legislature overrode all of the vetoes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governorship_of_Mitt_Romney#Health_care
The Democrats in the Massachusetts legislature made many improvements in romney's healthcare proposal which he vetoed. They overrode all of his vetoes. With an 85% majority they could pretty much pass or reject whatever they wanted.
Democrats in Massachusetts (not known for their conservatism and with Kennedy's blessing) passed the bill they wanted; not the one romney proposed. So this was more a Democratic law than a republican one.
And the Heritage Foundation's "mandate" was a tax rebate, not a fee. A major distinction.
AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)He'll be One Percent all the way, baby!
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)We need someone who has confidence in the women he works with because increasingly, women are entering the field of economics and banking. That's my impression.
Mass
(27,315 posts)(it would not even surprise me) but I wont trust somebody who lacks the basic courage to give his name on that. Coward.
From what I read, Obama defended Summers as "a pretty good guy". He may be. I am not of those who think somebody I disagree with is a bad man. It is something I personally think extremely annoying and shallow. But what the anonymous source did not say is whether Obama said Summers was the right guy for the job. So, F*ck anonymous sources.
There are further down sources that say Obama did not endorse Summers.
Rep. John Larson (D-Conn.) disagreed with his colleagues on their characterization of Obama's remarks.
"I don't think he made a defense of Larry Summers," Larson said. "I think he just said, 'Listen, I want to state a few facts about his service.'"
Rep. Tammy Duckworth (D-Ill.) said she didn't interpret Obama's comments as an endorsement.
"He was just talking about how he's interviewed quite a number of candidates and will make up his mind when he does," she told HuffPost.
Beacool
(30,249 posts)but I never heard him being called a "good guy", quite the contrary.
Mass
(27,315 posts)There are plenty of people in the room that disagree with this anonymous source's characterization, so, as I say, forget the anonymous coward. If he does not want to say his name on something that banal, I have no respect for him.
I do not like Summers, but frankly, the process on anonymous sources on banal information makes me noxious. I am watching House of Cards and frankly, this type of behavior correspond perfectly to the disgusting behavior attributed to congresspeople and senators. I would hope it is not a generality, but frankly, do not ask me to trust an anonymous source.
deurbano
(2,895 posts)By JONATHAN WEISMAN and MARK LANDLER
Published: July 31, 2013
<<President Obama on Wednesday offered a strong defense of his potential choice of Lawrence H. Summers to head the Federal Reserve, though he said no final choice had been made.
Speaking to members of the House Democratic caucus on Capitol Hill, Mr. Obama said in answer to a barbed question from a lawmaker that he believed Mr. Summers, a former senior economic adviser to the president, had been maligned in the liberal news media, according to Representative Gerald E. Connolly, Democrat of Virginia, who took part in the meeting.
According to Mr. Connollys account, the president described Mr. Summers as a rock of stability who deserved credit for helping steer the American economy back from the financial crisis of 2008 and the ensuing recession. Mr. Obama, Mr. Connolly said, singled out the negative coverage of Mr. Summers in The Huffington Post.
The president, Mr. Connolly said, emphasized that he had not made a decision on the next Fed chairman, adding, Im not even close to making that choice. He did not address the criticism of Mr. Summers over his record on womens issues, which have dogged him throughout his career.>>
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)And what fun would THAT be?
markpkessinger
(8,401 posts)The article says Obama's defense of Summers was reported by Representative Gerald E. Connolly, Democrat of Virginia.
Does that count as a reliable report?
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/01/us/politics/obama-goes-to-capitol-to-soothe-anxious-democrats.html?hp
Mass
(27,315 posts)Also not that Connolly says that Obama said he had made no choice, something that is actually in the HP article, but that the OP decided not to include. Anonymous sources with expletives are more fun.
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)Skeeter Barnes
(994 posts)forestpath
(3,102 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)Beacool
(30,249 posts)lark
(23,102 posts)truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)It would damage his credibility and reputation for smarts if he admitted what a tragic effing misstep that was.
eppur_se_muova
(36,263 posts)Has obama read Neil Barofsky's "Bailout" ? I don't think so.
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)UglyGreed
(7,661 posts)had tears of joy when he was elected. Then I thought in his second term he will do the right thing since there was nothing left to campaign for. Now I must turn my hope toward Elizabeth Warren.
truedelphi
(32,324 posts)I have figured Pelsoi for a puppet of a puppet of a puppet for a long time.
Oh and BTW, Mr President, when we real progressives are attacked, and talked "shit about" you certainly don't defend us at all. I am sure you laughed your butt off when Rahm called us progressives "F__ing retards."
It is only your good buddies like Geithner, and those others, you fawn over on Wall Street who get such heavy duty defending from you.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)A man who sticks up for his other party members!!
<--- He's saying "Go Obama!!"
MBS
(9,688 posts)and upset if Obama picked Summers, the initiator of the US financial crisis (and we don't even talk about what he did to Harvard -- not just the women stuff, which is bad enough: but he also created Harvard's 2009 financial crisis, too, not to mention mismanagement of the faculty). Oh, yeah, and his utter lack of civility and diplomacy.
Plus Jane Yellen is very competent, and better qualified as a Fed administrator.
So there really would be no excuse for appointing (shudder) Summers instead.
Beacool
(30,249 posts)alp227
(32,026 posts)PSPS
(13,599 posts)Owl
(3,642 posts)I agree with Rep. Ed Perlmutter (D-Colo.); "Larry Summers. Bad Choice."
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Sorry, Mr President...but it is the TRUTH.
madrchsod
(58,162 posts)summer 'decides' to withdraw
MBS
(9,688 posts)The headline says it all:
From his bank-centric policies to terrible leadership and sexism, Summers has nothing good to offer the country.
The main message:
More details at the url.
Beacool
(30,249 posts)I'm sure that they were thrilled to see him leave.
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)of course.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)is that even possible?
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)I think about his folksy speeches, and then I think about this kind of behavior (his constant sticking up for the worst banksters), and it's obvious that he doesn't give a damn about us, and those folksy speeches are just offensive lying charades. He thinks we're stupid, but he also hates our guts to even consider sticking us with Summers as head of the Fed, and all the damage that most certainly will do.
Those speeches and backing Summers simply don't go together in the same brain. I can't watch him anymore, because incidents like this are all I can think of when I see the folksy schtick. The looks of concern. The caring I'm-one-of-you joking around. I don't buy it anymore.
Carolina
(6,960 posts)so right!
I especially loved: those folksy speeches are just offensive lying charades And for that reason as well, I can no longer stand to hear BHO's voice, much less listen to one of his speeches. Bush was actually better because you knew where you stood and you knew you were being screwed, but BHO is shows so many sociopathic traits (glibness, superficial charm, shallow emotions, manipulation, lying), I have started thinking... if the shoe fits....
We, the majority of the people, were surely conned. But then again, look at fucking choices we had in 2008 and 2012. Sadly, the lesser of two evils is still EVIL!
librechik
(30,674 posts)Denver/Boulder area is lucky with its Reps--DeGette, Perlmutter, and Jared Polis!
Arkana
(24,347 posts)but he'd be a disaster as Fed chair.
Fire Walk With Me
(38,893 posts)as well, from what I'm hearing here. What's not to love?
srican69
(1,426 posts)I am amazed this guy isn't a Repuke
Yavin4
(35,441 posts)Seems like Obama was defending his character more than defending choosing him for the position.
Carolina
(6,960 posts)worth defending?! Puhleeze
jakeXT
(10,575 posts)Beacool
(30,249 posts)His risky ways were evident at Harvard, too. He gambled with the universitys operating fund, placing billions of dollars in an aggressive mix of investments. He would have heated debates with Jack Meyer, then the revered head of the endowment, who advocated for a more conservative approach.
During the good times, it was a lucrative strategy, and the cash from the operating account more than doubled under Summers. The windfall allowed Harvard to fuel his ambitious plan to expand its campus into Allston. But when the market crashed in 2008, Harvard lost $1.8 billion, prompting layoffs, tighter budgets, and an abrupt pullback of the Allston plans. Summers was long gone by then.
Beacool
(30,249 posts)Last edited Sat Aug 3, 2013, 09:52 AM - Edit history (1)
Summers clashed with fellow members of the Obama team. Noam Scheiber, in his book The Escape Artists, reported that he sidelined Christina Romer, then the chair of the Council of Economic Advisers, when she tried to persuade the president to pursue a larger stimulus package. Meanwhile, Sheila Bair, the former Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation chair who had warned of trouble in the subprime lending market, was left out of most major financial policy decisions.
"The attitude was that they already had all the answers and were talking to us only because the president wanted them to," Bair wrote in her recent book regarding Obama's top economic advisers. "Larry and Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner didn't seem to care about the political beating the president took on the hundreds of billions of dollars thrown at the big-banks bailouts and AIG bonuses, but ... I don't think helping homeowners was ever a priority for them."
That it was two prominent women with whom Summers clashed has not gone unnoticed.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/01/larry-summers-janet-yellen_n_3691052.html
The excerpts you quotes are particularly telling. . .It really would be a disastrous choice.
Beacool
(30,249 posts)"Summers protected the big banks from being taken over when they were insolvent, and he has been a consistent foe of any serious effort to rework the financial industry," said economist Dean Baker, co-director of the Center on Economic and Policy Research. For good measure, Baker noted that Summers earned millions from financial sector interests, including bailed-out Citigroup, around his stints in the public sector.
But here too, Summers defenders argue that these critics are omitting key facts. Summers was more resistant to immediate deficit reduction in 2009 and 2010 than other Obama advisers, they say, and he made the argument at the time that additional stimulus was needed. As for his divisiveness, Brad DeLong, a University of California, Berkeley economist and Summers supporter, had three explanations.
"A byproduct of his personality, a habit -- learned in graduate school, and before -- of overstating points in order to provoke in the belief that he is going to be judged on the smartest thing he says, and most important, an American left that does not understand who Obama is," DeLong said.
"The Democratic Party -- the left especially -- chooses somebody without a national political reputation, projects their hopes and their fantasies onto them as a blank canvas, enthusiastically supports their run for president, is then bitterly disappointed, and blames evil advisors who force Obama to listen to Jamie Dimon rather than Elizabeth Warren," he explained.
As DeLong sees it, Summers became a convenient bogeyman for Democrats disaffected with the president's performance. Obama himself told House Democrats on Wednesday that progressives were treating his former adviser as a "whipping boy." He urged them to not believe everything they read, singling out articles from this website in particular.
adirondacker
(2,921 posts)Beacool
(30,249 posts)Useful only when needed to win an election. Progressives are good at grassroots campaigning, raising money, knocking on doors, making phone calls, etc. When the campaign is over, then they are supposed to go back into the woodwork and keep their mouths shut.
adirondacker
(2,921 posts)gotten to the point where the ideological line no longer exists between GOP and Democratic capitalism. This is unsustainable and THEY know it. Perhaps that's the plan.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)Beacool
(30,249 posts)Let's just hope that Summers is not the chosen one.
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)He pushed to repeal the Glass-Steagall. Summers blocked pre-crash regulation of Wall Street. He is directly responsible for me personally losing 1/3rd of my retirement. It was not much but enough to pay some bills when I get old. He can get fucked as far as I'm concerned. He's a primadonna and a cynical narcissist. Why are the rich assholes who raped us all getting a damn pass? No one in power or with power gives a good shit about the People. I'll talk shit about him but no one cares what I think. But, God forbid anyone in power should talk shit about him.