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Berlin Expat

(950 posts)
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 05:23 AM Aug 2013

Japan's Fukushima Plant Has Been Leaking Contaminated Water For Two Years

Source: Reuters (India)

Japan's government believes radiation-contaminated water has been leaking into the Pacific Ocean from the wrecked Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant for the past two years, an industry ministry official told reporters on Wednesday.

Earlier, the official said an estimated 300 tonnes of contaminated water was leaking into the ocean per day from the Fukushima nuclear plant.

Read more: http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/08/07/japan-fukushima-contaminated-water-idINDEE97605420130807



Unfortunately, the article doesn't clarify the exact level of radioactive contamination leaking into the Pacific on a daily basis; nonetheless, 300 tons per day of radioactive water is most assuredly not a good thing. The long-term ramifications of the Fukushima nuclear disaster have yet to be determined.
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Japan's Fukushima Plant Has Been Leaking Contaminated Water For Two Years (Original Post) Berlin Expat Aug 2013 OP
How is it that they did not know? Lasher Aug 2013 #1
I'm pretty sure Berlin Expat Aug 2013 #3
Sometimes panic is a good thing They_Live Aug 2013 #18
maybe they're operating on this timetable developed 1930-69 MisterP Aug 2013 #15
Do they want to extend the timeframe from say 6 months to 2 years? rootProbiscus Aug 2013 #2
I don't trust Berlin Expat Aug 2013 #4
Long Term Estimates Seen On The Net Suggest 1 Billion Deaths cantbeserious Aug 2013 #5
A link to these estimates would be nice. nt NickB79 Aug 2013 #6
Here ya go. MelungeonWoman Aug 2013 #7
That's a link to post #5 above. Coyotl Aug 2013 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author another_liberal Aug 2013 #8
Yet like the Gulf which UglyGreed Aug 2013 #9
That's about 72,000 gallons per day. Soundman Aug 2013 #11
But..but...but Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #12
Well...Duh! SoapBox Aug 2013 #13
When I want accuracy, I ask the "experts" here. And they said that there is nothing to worry about. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #14
The Old World land mass is almost as big in area as the Pacific. closeupready Aug 2013 #16
It's a BIG OCEAN. A HUGE Ocean. So big, only stupid people wonder about it becoming contaminated... Octafish Aug 2013 #17

Berlin Expat

(950 posts)
3. I'm pretty sure
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 06:32 AM
Aug 2013

that TEPCO knows, or at least they have a good idea, of what's running off into the Pacific. They're just keeping quiet in order to avoid panic and/or severe embarrassment.

They_Live

(3,233 posts)
18. Sometimes panic is a good thing
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 04:43 PM
Aug 2013

because it forces confrontation with situations that might be life endangering.

oh well.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
15. maybe they're operating on this timetable developed 1930-69
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 12:49 PM
Aug 2013

the equation they're working on is nukes = living Godhood (given enough time)

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StandardSciFiHistory for one of the technocrats' ersatz religions (they've been working on them since the 1870s, when they called on Protestants and Muslims to defend their ally Science from the Vatican--my, how times have changed...)

rootProbiscus

(38 posts)
2. Do they want to extend the timeframe from say 6 months to 2 years?
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 06:22 AM
Aug 2013

If they extend the timeframe by a factor of 4 it means that the radioactive concentration they report is reduced by a factor of 4.
If they report a leakage concentration of 4 times what they have reported many more than 4 times the number of people would be worried/panicked.
Trust factor = 0, with good reason

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UglyGreed

(7,661 posts)
9. Yet like the Gulf which
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 09:15 AM
Aug 2013

continues to leak pollutants at many locations we told everything is fine and just go on living the good life.

 

Soundman

(297 posts)
11. That's about 72,000 gallons per day.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 09:44 AM
Aug 2013

Not an insignificant number. I guess they finally had to account for all the missing make up water.

On a side note. This what you get when you entrust a corporation with public health and safety, in the end you have neither.

 

Safetykitten

(5,162 posts)
14. When I want accuracy, I ask the "experts" here. And they said that there is nothing to worry about.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 12:24 PM
Aug 2013

Reason?

BIG OCEAN.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
16. The Old World land mass is almost as big in area as the Pacific.
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 01:01 PM
Aug 2013

Yet, Chernobyl precipitated how many bad health outcomes amongst those living nearby or in neighboring states? As a matter of fact, I believe Swedish health authorities continue to caution against consumption of reindeer and berries harvested from certain areas where fallout spread in the days after the explosion.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
17. It's a BIG OCEAN. A HUGE Ocean. So big, only stupid people wonder about it becoming contaminated...
Wed Aug 7, 2013, 02:13 PM
Aug 2013

...we were told. Why, the experts are here on DU to shut down any nonsense like worry about nuclear radiation. Besides, irradiated tuna can provide valuable data on their migration patterns. Right.

Do you know Tepco Rose? A former US SEC lawyer and now UK regulator extraordinaire, Lady Barbara Judge wants to keep the world safe for nuclear power.



The mood at Fukushima Daiichi is "fantastic."



Lady Barbara Judge: Japan's smart nuclear weapon

The head of the UK's Pension Protection Fund has been drafted in to help assure the residents of Fukushima that its reactors are safe

MARGARETA PAGANO
The Independent (UK) SUNDAY 17 FEBRUARY 2013

Lady Barbara Judge is just back from inspecting the nuclear plants at Fukushima in Japan, the ones closed down after the devastating earthquake and tsunami two years ago. She visited the control rooms at Daiichi – plant one – where three of the reactors went into meltdown and met many of the men who risked their lives by working during the emergency to cool the over-heated reactors and eventually shut them down.

It's not what she expected but the mood there was " fantastic". "What was astonishing was the optimism and hope shown by the workers that these plants can be made safe, and that they can start operating again," she says. But this was in stark contrast to the mood of the Japanese public, still in a state of shock and strongly opposed to the restoration of the nuclear programme.

Already being hailed as Japan's nuclear saviour, Lady Judge was in Fukushima with the bosses of the plants' owner, Tokyo Electric Power Company (Tepco), which was criticised for its bungled reaction to the catastrophe. It's her first trip since being appointed deputy chairman of Tepco's new Nuclear Reform Monitoring Committee, set up after the disaster to propose a new self-regulatory structure for the industry. If all goes well, Tepco hopes to persuade the new government – said to be more favourable than the last – to restart two of the plants later this year.

SNIP...

It's her long experience of Britain's nuclear industry that attracted the Japanese, who rarely bring in outsiders, let alone a woman. Lady Judge's credentials go back to 2002 when she became a director of the UK's Atomic Energy Authority, and was then chairman for six years until 2010. She is still closely involved with the industry so, a few days after returning from Fukushima, was able to take Tepco executives to the West Midlands' Oldbury site to show how it has been decommissioned using the strictest safety protocols.

SNIP...

Yet there's one group of people who stay stubbornly anti-nuclear – women, especially the more educated ones. Wherever you are in the world, she says, all the focus groups show that it's better-off women who don't trust fission.

CONTINUED...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/lady-barbara-judge-japans-smart-nuclear-weapon-8497747.html



It seems that government service in the United States can open doors to [s]money[/s] opportunity in the United Kingdom. From the comment section at e-news we learn:



weeman
February 17, 2013 at 10:29 am

Tokyo Rose I have named her, just like the second world war the propaganda machine is on full spin cycle and we all know the false lies that they promote and brainwashing of populace.

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Time Is Short
February 18, 2013 at 2:09 pm

Here's a big reason she was brought in:

'Radioactive Asia: There Will Be 100 Additional Nuclear Reactors in Asia in 20 Years'

http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2013/02/radioactive-asia-there-will-be-100.html

If she's working for those that control the majority of the uranium mining/processing, you can see the money involved.

Can't let the murder of 8 billion people get in the way of third-quarter profits, can we?

...

Sickputer
February 16, 2013 at 9:20 pm

Her track record has not always been so cheery:

April 23, 2010

"WASHINGTON—Massey Energy Co., owner of a coal mine where 29 workers were killed this month, on Monday said that the board member responsible for governance had resigned because of the demands of "other ongoing business activities."

Lady Barbara Thomas Judge's resignation, effective immediately, comes amid growing criticism of the management of the Richmond, Virginia, company. For months, shareholders had complained that Lady Judge was unable to devote enough time to the job because she served on too many corporate boards. The complaints about Massey's corporate governance intensified after a coal-mine explosion two weeks ago that was the deadliest in 40 years."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703757504575195070711065984.html

Another article in 2007:

"But questions remain. Why does Lady Judge need so many jobs? How did she land her role at the UK Atomic Energy Authority, when she had no relevant experience? Is it relevant that a female friend was on the selection panel?
Lady Judge bristles. She points out that, as a lawyer, it is her job to master a subject about which she is initially ignorant. To prepare for her role at the Atomic Energy Authority, she even studied her son's physics books. She also has a strategic business role, which she is well equipped to carry out.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-452635/Is-best-connected-woman-Britain



The monied class have zero compunction about irradiating the Northern Hemisphere, the Southern Hemisphere or any which way they slice up their planet and protect their loot with the nukes We the People have so kindly paid for.



It's getting apparent that us renters are SOL.
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