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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 10:13 AM Sep 2013

White House Takes Credit For Syria’s Apparent Concession

Source: TPM



DYLAN SCOTT SEPTEMBER 10, 2013, 9:30 AM

As Syria announced Tuesday morning that it would accept Russia’s offer to hand over its chemical weapons, the White House and other proponents of U.S. strikes rushed to claim credit, arguing that the threat of military intervention brought the Assad regime to the negotiating table.

“In our view, the only reason this is now being seriously discussed by the Russians is because of the threat of U.S. military action,” a senior administration official told TPM. “Were chemical weapons to be transferred into international control and ultimately destroyed, that would be a positive outcome. But, if this has any chance of happening, we need to have the threat of military action in our pocket.”

Lawmakers took the same line in responding to the sudden developments over the last 24 hours.

“While at this point I have healthy skepticism that this offer will change the situation and it will be several days before we can fully determine its credibility, I do know that it never would have been floated if the Senate Foreign Relations Committee had not approved the authorization for the use of force last week,” Sen. Bob Corker, ranking Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said in a statement.

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White House Takes Credit For Syria’s Apparent Concession (Original Post) DonViejo Sep 2013 OP
Yet, most here will deny it. philosslayer Sep 2013 #1
I think President Obama is doing a remarkable job under extremely difficult circumstances Samantha Sep 2013 #4
I'm waiting to see how Fox News gives credit to the House Republicans for this. Bucky Sep 2013 #22
What was disidoro01 Sep 2013 #5
The conflict is de-escalating philosslayer Sep 2013 #7
You are disidoro01 Sep 2013 #10
Even if the civil war continues, it is good for Syria, the region and the world karynnj Sep 2013 #19
Time to read some more informative OP's... DonViejo Sep 2013 #8
You realize disidoro01 Sep 2013 #13
Not as off the cuff as we were led to believe anokaflash Sep 2013 #9
Kerry was not "frothing at the mouth" karynnj Sep 2013 #18
acknowledging anything that President Obama does Cryptoad Sep 2013 #12
Ditto! Quite honestly, reading the comments here aren't much different from that other place. Tarheel_Dem Sep 2013 #20
as well they should warrior1 Sep 2013 #2
Success has a thousand fathers, failure is an orphan nt geek tragedy Sep 2013 #3
15% of Republicans gave Mitt romney credit for capturing and killing Osama Bin Laden Snake Plissken Sep 2013 #6
Well I am happy Obama came up with the idea/offer. L0oniX Sep 2013 #11
Of course they do. blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #14
Obama should also take credit for his covert war against Syria. arewenotdemo Sep 2013 #15
Obama works in mysterious ways Capt. Obvious Sep 2013 #16
Well, can you blame them for spinning? All politicians spin. polichick Sep 2013 #17
This is a win for Syria. The slaughter will continue once the chemicals are rounded up. Bucky Sep 2013 #21

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
4. I think President Obama is doing a remarkable job under extremely difficult circumstances
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 10:25 AM
Sep 2013

He does deserve a lot of credit.

I do not agree with him on every issue, there are 2 issues in particular that upset me, but I never went into this thinking I would be in total agreement with everything he did while in office. He acknowledged to us all after his 2008 acceptance speech in Chicago that we would not agree with everything he did, but he had gotten a lot more from us than we would from him. It was a humbling statement.

Sam

Bucky

(54,013 posts)
22. I'm waiting to see how Fox News gives credit to the House Republicans for this.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:26 PM
Sep 2013

Probably something like "By signalling they were willing to partially support the president in a time of international tensions, the Republican leadership scared Assad into surrendering his poison gases."

disidoro01

(302 posts)
5. What was
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 10:26 AM
Sep 2013

well done?
Last I knew, Kerry was frothing at the mouth and made some off the cuff remarks and the state department doubled down on the fact that Assad can't be trusted. Now less than a day later he can and the White House saved the day.
I don't ascribe incompetence to the president but on the other hand, he didn't out maneuver anyone on this.
Made up stories to push a misguided belief that the president is a cross between Einstein and Gandhi. He is a politician.

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
7. The conflict is de-escalating
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 10:30 AM
Sep 2013

Without a shot being fired. And the weapons will be turned over. All orchestrated. By President Obama and SOS Kerry. What is it exactly you don't get?

disidoro01

(302 posts)
10. You are
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 10:45 AM
Sep 2013

misrepresenting what is going on, perhaps deliberately. The conflict in Syria has not de-escalated and you have no proof that the weapons will be turned over. It was not orchestrated by the President and Kerry, This process has only just begun and only involves the chemical weapons, not the continued slaughter of people on both sides in Syria.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
19. Even if the civil war continues, it is good for Syria, the region and the world
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:23 PM
Sep 2013

to NOT have chemical weapons there. The ONLY claim the WH has is that there refusing to look the other way on CWs led to Russia pushing for this.

As to a political solution to end the civil war - that is a far bigger deal and can really be done only by the Syrians.

anokaflash

(53 posts)
9. Not as off the cuff as we were led to believe
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 10:36 AM
Sep 2013

The President and Putin discussed this option last Friday. There was a legitimate offer on the table when Kerry made his remarks. He may have jumped the gun, but it certainly wasn't an off the cuff spur of the moment thing. -> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/09/obama-putin-syria-chemical-weapons_n_3896333.html

The pressure of military action, and the commitment by the President to go forward with our without Congressional approval showed strength and leadership and forced Syria/Russia hand to find a peaceful way out. Unlike the Iraq fiasco, Syria has admitted to being in possession of WMD/Gas and have now agreed to put them in independent control. isn't that the ultimate goal of all this.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
18. Kerry was not "frothing at the mouth"
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:20 PM
Sep 2013

As to credit - everyone claims credit - and there is some justification. If Obama had ignored the attack, would Russia have pushed Syria to get rid of chemical weapons? TI don't think so. But - this has not yet happened and it is too early to give anyone credit.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
20. Ditto! Quite honestly, reading the comments here aren't much different from that other place.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 01:42 PM
Sep 2013

You know the one I mean.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
6. 15% of Republicans gave Mitt romney credit for capturing and killing Osama Bin Laden
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 10:29 AM
Sep 2013

I bet even more of them would give Mitt Romney credit for Syria’s Apparent Concession ... if they could remember who Mitt Romney is.

It will be interesting to see who the Republicans attempt to give credit to this time.

Bucky

(54,013 posts)
21. This is a win for Syria. The slaughter will continue once the chemicals are rounded up.
Tue Sep 10, 2013, 02:19 PM
Sep 2013

Putin gets the silver medal. I was/am against the bombing plan, but the US is now taken out of the equation.

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