NSA Employee Spied on Nine Women Without Detection, Internal File Shows...
Source: the guardian
A National Security Agency employee was able to secretly intercept the phone calls of nine foreign women for six years without ever being detected by his managers, the agency's internal watchdog has revealed.
The unauthorised abuse of the NSA's surveillance tools only came to light after one of the women, who happened to be a US government employee, told a colleague that she suspected the man – with whom she was having a sexual relationship – was listening to her calls.
The case is among 12 documented in a letter from the NSA's inspector general to a leading member of Congress, who asked for a breakdown of cases in which the agency's powerful surveillance apparatus was deliberately abused by staff. One relates to a member of the US military who, on the first day he gained access to the surveillance system, used it to spy on six email addresses belonging to former girlfriends.
The letter, from Dr George Ellard, only lists cases that were investigated and later "substantiated" by his office. But it raises the possibility that there are many more cases that go undetected. In a quarter of the cases, the NSA only found out about the misconduct after the employee confessed...
General Keith Alexander said abuse of the NSA's powerful monitoring tools were 'with very rare exception' unintentional mistakes. Photo: Alex Wong/Getty Images
Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/27/nsa-employee-spied-detection-internal-memo
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And once again the bottom line is...
...Let's see.
Please read carefully and tell me what's different about what he said (or "mentioned"
& what he did.
Picture #1 - looks good Right?:
...Obama announced his intent to form the review group at a press conference earlier this month. He argued that the surveillance programs are critical to national security, but he acknowledged that some changes might be necessary to restore public trust.
He said the "independent group" would be made up of a "high-level group of outside experts."
The White House said that within 60 days of beginning its work, the group will brief the president "through the Director of National Intelligence" on its preliminary findings. Privacy advocates have expressed concern about how much control Director of National Intelligence James Clapper will have over the group. But the White House has insisted that Clapper is not leading the group or directing its efforts...
http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/319115-obama-meets-with-nsa-review-group
Picture#2 - What!?:
September 22, 2013 9:13 AM
WASHINGTON (AP) — With just weeks remaining before its first deadline, a review panel chosen by President Barack Obama to boost public trust in government surveillance programs has effectively been operating as an arm of the office that oversees those programs.
The advisers work in offices on loan from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. Its meetings so far have been closed to the public, and all statements from the review panel are carefully coordinated through the DNI’s press office. James Clapper, the intelligence director, exempted the panel from U.S. rules that require federal committees to conduct their business and their meetings in ways the public can observe.
Even the panel’s official name suggests it’s run by Clapper’s office: “Director of National Intelligence Review Group on Intelligence and Communications Technologies.”
Read more: http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/09/22/nsa-spying-oversight-group-very-closely-tied-to-white-house/
It's time to get our heads out of the sand and see just who's interests are being served in D.C.
I mean I'm an anti-war activist, I'm super liberal(Semi-collectivist), I speak out against atrocities committed by our government against foreign nations yet I don't feel that my activities, my activism is being limited nor my rights, but you do and that bothers me. If you agree that we need security, and I'm sure you do, do you think there's a way this can be accomplished without you feeling like your liberties are being violated?
I'm seriously not a shill, I can't believe that someone thinks I might be a shill. I mean Noam Chomsky and Michael Parenti are heroes of mine
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Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease do not for one second believe that I don't wish the NSA, the FBI, and the DEA were unnecessary. I wish that so much! But we aren't there yet, imo.
The didn't believe in the merit of their own argument, they were afraid of the 1st Amendment, so they left.
It isn't just soldiers, it's also the police, National Guard, professional mercenaries and private thugs figure in to the mix as well.
It doesn't even have to be an overt order.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings
The Kent State shootings (also known as the May 4 massacre or the Kent State massacre)[2][3][4] occurred at Kent State University in the U.S. city of Kent, Ohio, and involved the shooting of unarmed college students by the Ohio National Guard on Monday, May 4, 1970. The guardsmen fired 67 rounds over a period of 13 seconds, killing four students and wounding nine others, one of whom suffered permanent paralysis.[5]
Some of the students who were shot had been protesting against the Cambodian Campaign, which President Richard Nixon announced during a television address on April 30. Other students who were shot had been walking nearby or observing the protest from a distance.
Sometimes shit happens.
Furthermore as I stated they don't have to kill, they can arrest, harrass, ruin, blackmail, there are many tools in the bag.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism
McCarthyism is the practice of making accusations of disloyalty, subversion, or treason without proper regard for evidence. It also means "the practice of making unfair allegations or using unfair investigative techniques, especially in order to restrict dissent or political criticism."[1] The term has its origins in the period in the United States known as the Second Red Scare, lasting roughly from 1950 to 1956 and characterized by heightened fears of communist influence on American institutions and espionage by Soviet agents. Originally coined to criticize the anti-communist pursuits of Republican U.S. Senator Joseph McCarthy of Wisconsin, "McCarthyism" soon took on a broader meaning, describing the excesses of similar efforts. The term is also now used more generally to describe reckless, unsubstantiated accusations, as well as demagogic attacks on the character or patriotism of political adversaries.
During the McCarthy era, thousands of Americans were accused of being communists or communist sympathizers and became the subject of aggressive investigations and questioning before government or private-industry panels, committees and agencies. The primary targets of such suspicions were government employees, those in the entertainment industry, educators and union activists. Suspicions were often given credence despite inconclusive or questionable evidence, and the level of threat posed by a person's real or supposed leftist associations or beliefs was often greatly exaggerated. Many people suffered loss of employment and/or destruction of their careers; some even suffered imprisonment. Most of these punishments came about through trial verdicts later overturned,[2] laws that would be declared unconstitutional,[3] dismissals for reasons later declared illegal[4] or actionable,[5] or extra-legal procedures that would come into general disrepute.
The constitution is not our preeminent institution, consent is. If the people one day decide the second amendment goes ITS GONE. THE PEOPLE ARE SICK OF THE CONGRESS, NEXT ELECTION THEY ARE GONE. Even our liberal supreme court justices advise other nations not to mimic our constitution.
Similar to how i feel about the Bible, the constitution is not a holy work nor close to perfect or egalitarian. It couldn't protect women and black Americans for much of Americas existence, why hold it to such esteem? Its just paper full of ideas from a longggggggggggggg time ago.
To this I have several questions.
1. How many people?
2. What if the people are divided?
3. What if the people decide that the 1st and 4th Amendments are gone today as well, are they gone?
Don't make the mistake of writing off the Republicans too easily.
1. They will work to undermine the vote to maintain power.
2. They control or have sympathy from the vast majority of the corporate media.
3. They have most of the nation's wealth behind them.
4. Decisions like Citizens United will make sure the financial floodgates are open promoting issues the Republicans support and Democrats oppose.
5. 2014 and 2016 are a long time from now especially in regards to politics.
Even if the Republican Party were destroyed which is unlikely, they would simply rebrand under another name, keeping the same core beliefs.
I suspect it's big enough to sink the Fourth Amendment. 
Go get those Arabs...who treat women so poorly!
Aren't these people dreamy. 
Snowden was right; given a phone number or name or IP address, he could spy on anyone undetected.
