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Eugene

(61,900 posts)
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 02:22 PM Nov 2013

Google defeats authors in U.S. book-scanning lawsuit

Source: Reuters

BY JONATHAN STEMPEL
NEW YORK Thu Nov 14, 2013 12:53pm EST

(Reuters) - Google Inc on Thursday won dismissal of a long-running lawsuit by authors who accused the Internet search company of digitally copying millions of books for an online library without permission.

U.S. Circuit Judge Denny Chin in Manhattan accepted Google's argument that its scanning of more than 20 million books, and making "snippets" of text available online, constituted "fair use" under U.S. copyright law.

The decision, if it survives an expected appeal, would let Google continue expanding the library, which it said helps readers find books they might not otherwise locate.

It is also turning point for litigation that began in 2005, when authors and publishers sued. Google has estimated it could owe more than $3 billion if the Authors Guild, an advocacy group that demanded $750 for each scanned book, prevailed.

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/14/us-google-books-idUSBRE9AD0TT20131114

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MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
2. Good. Copyright has been so twisted out of shape..
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 02:37 PM
Nov 2013

It is good to see some common sense once in a while.

Martak Sarno

(77 posts)
3. Laws?
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 03:58 PM
Nov 2013

SO...I guess this means we can all copy copyrighted music and movies from discs to safely store them so long as we only look and listen to "snippets?"

Another law circumvented for the benefit of the 1%.

Maybe we don't need no stinking laws!

shraby

(21,946 posts)
5. The copyright law should revert to its earlier form instead of tying written works
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 04:34 PM
Nov 2013

and music up for longer than 75 years. 75 years for a copyright is more than enough time for someone to make their money from their work. Things tend to totally drop out of sight and disappear after 50 years.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
7. Apparently some publishers are using the copyright law to keep older works off the market...
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 06:33 PM
Nov 2013

so they don't compete with their more recent releases.

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
6. You can under fair use. Just not the whole thing.
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 04:41 PM
Nov 2013

I don't know what the reasonable limit is, but you can take snippets of stuff and use them under fair use. I think the purpose of the usage matters too.

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
8. I don't see why authors would oppose this.
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 06:51 PM
Nov 2013

Google's argument makes sense. It gives the authors exposure and makes their work more searchable to prospective customers. I can see why publishing companies might oppose it. It would make it easier for authors to create and sell their own ebooks and cut the publishing company's share out of the equation.

penultimate

(1,110 posts)
10. Confused me too, well, until I thought about it. They probably don't oppose the concept at all
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 12:26 AM
Nov 2013

but they just want to make money from it. At least that would be my best guess. Kinda dickish of the authors if that's the case, because it does seem like it does them a service.

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