House approves plan to let some keep their health plans

[alp227]

Last edited Fri Nov 15, 2013, 03:47 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Wash. post

The House approved a plan Friday permitting health insurance companies to continue selling policies that do not comply with the health-care law, a proposal that would allow more Americans to keep their current health plans while significantly weakening part of the Affordable Care Act.

Thirty-nine Democrats joined with the Republican majority in support of the “Keep Your Health Plan Act,” a proposal by Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.) that would allow insurance companies to keep selling health policies that do not reflect the Affordable Care Act’s consumer protections.

The proposal goes further than the administrative fix announced by President Obama Thursday, which would only allow insurers and state insurance commissioners to extend those policies through most of 2014.

But both efforts, as well as another crafted by Democrats in the Senate, are aimed at addressing the same issue: The political backlash over letters received by millions of Americans whose private health insurance policies are being canceled because of the health-care law.

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/house-approves-plan-to-let-some-keep-their-health-plans/2013/11/15/a7ac2190-4e12-11e3-ac54-aa84301ced81_story.html

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They can't stand up to Big Insurance. Cowards.

Roll Call of HR 3350; Democrats are in italics.

[sharp_stick]

1. Can't stand up to big insurance?

Shit, why would they want to? These assholes are big insurance and big oil and big pretty much anyone that's willing to line their pockets and fund their continual election campaign.

[doc03]

2. Did any f-----g Democrats vote for it n/t

[flpoljunkie]

3. Thirty-nine Democrats voted for it--no doubt from very red districts.

[alp227]

6. roll call:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll587.xml

Ron Barber - Blue Dog repping Giffords's Tucson area district
John Barrow (GA) - reps Augusta
Ami Bera (CA) - represents Sacramento
Tim Bishop (NY) - Eastern Long Island
Bruce Braley (IA)
Julie Brownley (CA) - Ventura County & suburban LA county
Cheryl Bustos - NW Illinois
Jim Costa - Fresno, CA
Peter DeFazio - Oregon's two university towns (Eugene and Corvallis) and vicinity
Suzan DelBene - northern suburbs of Seattle
Tammy Duckworth - western suburbs of Chicago
Enyart - SW Illinois including St. Louis suburbs
Esty - Western Connecticut including UConn I think
Foster - Chicago suburbs
Gallego - SW Texas including San Antonio suburbs
Garamendi - eastern suburbs of SF Bay area
Garcia - Miami suburbs
Kind - central Wisconsin
Loebsack - also from Iowa another red state Dem
Maffei - Syracuse & vicnity
Maloney, Sean - Newburgh
Matheson - Salt Lake City & northern Utah
McIntyre - Wilmington & SE N. Carolina
McNerney - parts of the Central Valley & East Bay in CA
McLane Kuster - western New Hampshire
Nolan - Duluth & NE Minnesota
Owens - Upstate NY
Peters (CA) - eastern suburbs of San Diego
Peters (MI) - Detroit & suburbs
Peterson - SW Minnesota
Rahall - Beckley, Huntington, & southern WV
Ruiz - Palm Springs, the district formerly represented by Sonny Bono (of "I Got You Babe" fame) and Mary Bono Mack
Schneider - northern suburbs of Chicago up to the WI border
Schrader - southern suburbs of Portland, OR; Salem; coastal Oregon
Shea-Porter - Eastern New Hampshire
Sinema - a newly created district in the Phoenix, AZ area
Vela - southern Texas all the way to the mexican border
Walz - Rochester & southern MN

yes a lot of red state and rural districts right here

[LibDemAlways]

10. Julia Bronley is my Rep. in a newly carved

out district in So. Cal. She's a freshman, and even though the district is pretty evenly divided, there was no reason for her to do this. She was probably hearing from a few wing nuts and got scared. My honorary Rep. Is Alan Grayson - a guy with backbone.

[Tx4obama]

14. SEE the OP on the LINK below :)

Here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024039921

[Tx4obama]

15. SEE the OP on the LINK below :)

Here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024039921

[Iliyah]

4. And allowing the health insurance companies to remain the same

knocks out "PRE-EXISTING" as well. Way to go GOPers and the 39 Dems who can give a fuck about America's well being.

[uppityperson]

5. Oh hell no. So rather than getting affordable insurance I can use, I can keep my overpriced

unusable insurance? Cowards.

[Tx4obama]

13. SEE the OP on the LINK below :)

Here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024039921

[uppityperson]

24. Thanks, I was hoping that would happen. nt

[hughee99]

19. You CAN keep it. I don't believe there's any law that says you HAVE to. n/t

[uppityperson]

21. Since the insurance company no longer offers that plan, I can't. They said they'd move me to

the "comparable" plan at double my catastrophic, with no mention of the exchanges.

[hughee99]

22. I'm confused, at first you sounded like you were mad some people were going to be able

to keep their old "overprice unusable" plans, now you sound mad that you CAN'T keep your old plan and have been moved to a new one.

It almost sounds like your insurance company screwed you over, but in a way that has nothing to do with the legislation proposed in the OP.

[uppityperson]

23. I had overpriced catastrophic ins that I could not use. ACA took it away, replacing it with

insurance I could use. My insurance co is in trouble for sending out notices that they'd move us to "comparable" plans for double the cost, except the plans are in no way "comparable" and they didn't mention the exchanges like they should have. Lifewise in WA is now in trouble for sending out these technically true but very misleading letters.

My old insurance plan is no longer offered so I can not keep it as it isn't offered any more. Even if it was, which it isn't, I have NO desire to pay too much for a plan I can not use. I am very glad I now have a plan through the exchange that I can afford and use.

I do not want legislation "permitting health insurance companies to continue selling policies that do not comply with the health-care law" as this would undermine the ACA.

[christx30]

25. I like this idea.

Some people think the plan they have is fine. It gives them what they need and not a bunch of stuff they don't. Single guys don't want to pay for coverage for maternity care. I don't need to pay for coverage for substance abuse treatment.
Let me choose what I want. Don't force me to buy a fully loaded Escalade with $3000 spinning rims. I just want a honda civic that'll get me to work and back.

[uppityperson]

26. I don't like paying taxes for military bloat either. How about we change the tax thing around so

we can as individuals pay for what we need and not a bunch of stuff we don't?

You can always opt out at under $100 this year, chalk that up to a tax like I do.

[christx30]

27. Paying taxes is different than

paying a private company for shit I'm not going to use. Like being forced to pay for digital cable ($65) if I'm going to just watch network tv on basic ($20)

[uppityperson]

28. My tax dollars go to pay a private company for shit I'm not going to use. Or you you think the milit

military manufactures all their equipment, food, etc?

[uppityperson]

29. I thought this might be appropriate here. Thank you EarlG

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017158696

[DreamSmoker]

7. Who??

The Media is out in force with its perception that Obama has lost his support from his own Party..
So those who caved are more worried about being re-elected than making a difference that benefits us all..

[davidpdx]

8. I'm extremely disappointed with 2 of the D's in Oregon

I've grown tired of Schrader who is my representative. I'll be voting against him i the primary.

[Tx4obama]

11. SEE the OP on the LINK below :)

Here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024039921

[mac56]

9. My rep, Rick Nolan.

From the Minnesota Fighting Eighth District.

I'm surprised and disappointed.

[Tx4obama]

12. SEE the OP on the LINK below :)

Here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024039921

[PSPS]

16. This won't go anywhere

This is just another futile "defund Obamacare" exercise under another name. The Senate won't pass it and Obama won't sign it. But it will probably get a few more dollars from the goobers.

[Sunlei]

17. republicans want to allow insurance corps to keep on selling fake, scam insurance to Americans.

That way their states will continue to get billions in free federal money to pay for those Americans who don't have insurance that covers care.

I say the Federal Gov should stop handing over Federal money to state control and Feds should pay the hospitals directly. Use the military healthcare system and the Vet hospitals, expand them.

Cut out the middlemen.

[Thor_MN]

18. We couldn't stand to have a thread about Minnesota, could we?

A separate thread about the Minnesota Reps who voted yes was locked because of this one. DU apparently can't tolerate news about "Fly over" states. I get really tired of seeing threads with Midwest interests locked while analogous threads with coastal interests stand unmolested.

[alp227]

20. Because it was a duplicate of a larger national story.

But feel free to add links in this broader thread.

And the LBN board is for stories of national interest.

Minnesota story: http://www.startribune.com/politics/blogs/232088461.html

[Thor_MN]

30. National interest, yet there are stories all the time about coastal CITY events.

Maybe you didn't bother to read my post that Events in Midwest areas get locked, while equivalent events on the coasts are left alone.

[alp227]

31. What about this thread about the happenings in the Rethug-run Wisconsin assembly?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014649377

Still standing.

[Thor_MN]

32. Congratulations. You posted a thread that hasn't been locked.

Frankly, I'm surprised that it hasn't been locked with a note saying feel free to repost in the Wisconsin forum.

I do feel bad that you are unaware of the differences between cities and states, but I'm sure one of these days you will catch on.