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Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 03:33 PM Nov 2013

Pope Francis denounces ‘trickle-down’ economic theories in critique of inequality

Source: Washington Post


Pope Francis: Acts of humility:?The new prelate is rewriting the rules in his first year at the Vatican. Here are a few of Francis’s symbolic moves and statements.


By Zachary A. Goldfarb and Michelle Boorstein, E-mail the writers

Pope Francis on Tuesday sharply criticized growing economic inequality and unfettered markets in a lengthy paper outlining a populist philosophy that he says will guide his papacy as he pushes the Catholic Church to reach out more, particularly to the disenfranchised.

Using sharply worded phrases, Francis decried an “idolatry of money” and warned it would lead to “a new tyranny.” And he invoked language with particular resonance in the United States, attacking an economic theory that discourages taxation and regulation and which most affiliate with conservatives.

It’s the “boldness and explicitness” of the pope’s new writing that makes it so newsworthy, said Michael Sean Winters, a fellow at Catholic University’s Institute for Policy Research and Catholic Studies.

Yet while previous popes discussed the disenfranchised, they didn’t single out the issue the way Francis has. He has not only done so with his words, but in his actions, such as paying his own hotel bill in person or affectionately embracing a man disfigured by disease.

Experts see Francis as trying to reframe economic justice not just a matter of duty but as a way of connecting better to God.

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http://www.scribd.com/doc/187329248/Pope-Francis-s-Nov-24-2013-Evangelii-Gaudium

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/pope-francis-denounces-trickle-down-economic-theories-in-critique-of-inequality/2013/11/26/e17ffe4e-56b6-11e3-8304-caf30787c0a9_story.html

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Pope Francis denounces ‘trickle-down’ economic theories in critique of inequality (Original Post) Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 OP
the catholic church is obscenely rich and hoards wealth. et tu, Francis? nt msongs Nov 2013 #1
Ayn Rand worshipers (like Ryan) won't like this one. Kingofalldems Nov 2013 #2
Nor will the hard-right neocon holier-than-thou catholics I know Populist_Prole Nov 2013 #3
Be sure to call them "cafeteria Catholics" caraher Nov 2013 #17
Thanks. That's the first I've heard of the term Populist_Prole Nov 2013 #18
I wonder how Ricky Santorum will handle this new Pope? Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #11
Guarantee you he hates him. Kingofalldems Nov 2013 #12
I don't think this Pope wants to get anywhere near Santorum Ken Burch Nov 2013 #14
of course he'd be against pretending that the markets are Divine Providence MisterP Nov 2013 #4
Say it ain't So Pope, there you go again with that Liberal Agenda Heather MC Nov 2013 #5
Go Pope Frank colsohlibgal Nov 2013 #6
He is an amazing guy ramapo Nov 2013 #7
I agree. He is liberal in a very high position. Lets hope he can affect some change in the world... olddad56 Nov 2013 #20
He's Opened A Schism bucolic_frolic Nov 2013 #8
I agree with this new Pope, and like him more everyday. bvar22 Nov 2013 #9
Hopefully, they won't do unto Francis... Ken Burch Nov 2013 #15
"trickle down" is just a nice way of saying Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #10
I was curious how the guys in freeperland were handling this. Courtesy Flush Nov 2013 #13
They aren't delusional on this... MellowDem Nov 2013 #16
another kick Douglas Carpenter Nov 2013 #19
They are encouraging steps davidpdx Nov 2013 #21
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #22

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
3. Nor will the hard-right neocon holier-than-thou catholics I know
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:09 PM
Nov 2013

Now THAT'S a wedge issue. This oughtta be good as it unfolds....

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
18. Thanks. That's the first I've heard of the term
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 07:58 PM
Nov 2013

I looked it up and man oh man does the definition fit them to a T. I did once offer a suggestion to one of them once: That they should eliminate the confession on the grounds it would give incentive to not being a douchebag in the first place.

It's not limited to catholics either since I see so many overtly "christian" people who are also some of the meanest nastiest SOB's to their fellow citizens on earth.

Kingofalldems

(38,461 posts)
12. Guarantee you he hates him.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 07:10 PM
Nov 2013

From the Pope: "......no to a financial system that rules rather than serves..."

A direct hit on the trickle down cons.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
4. of course he'd be against pretending that the markets are Divine Providence
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:22 PM
Nov 2013

they tried to make humanity into a collective capital-G God under Comte (and Lenin, sorta)


(Estrada Cabrera built temples to Athena in Guatemala, but that just gave us "El Señor Presidente"

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
20. I agree. He is liberal in a very high position. Lets hope he can affect some change in the world...
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 12:22 AM
Nov 2013

or at least the Catholic church.

bucolic_frolic

(43,200 posts)
8. He's Opened A Schism
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:36 PM
Nov 2013

with conservative evangelicals

This is like Martin Luther

David vs Goliath

Pope takes on Capitalism

Absolutely jaw-dropping

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
9. I agree with this new Pope, and like him more everyday.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 05:31 PM
Nov 2013
The Pundits, Party Spokesmen, Talking Heads, Chamber of Commerce, and Centrist Big Business Democrats tell me that there is a NEW God in town.
They tell me that I can't SEE this new GOD because, like the old GOD, this one is Invisible too.

This new GOD is so ALL POWERFUL that when the "Free Market" makes a mistake, a Giant Invisible Hand reaches down from the heavens,
[font size=3]and CORRECTS the Market ALL BY ITSELF!!![/font]
There is No NEED for Regulations or Government Intervention to Keep things Fair.
There is NO NEED to protect Citizens, Consumers, Small Businesses, or The Environment.
There is NO NEED for Humans to get involved AT ALL,
because the Invisible Hand will DO all that for us!

In fact, ANY interference from Governments, Consumer Groups, Organized LABOR, Workers Rights, Humanitarian Groups, and ESPECIALLY those whiny assed Environmentalists only makes things WORSE.
The Invisible Hand Knows ALL, and works BEST all by himself,
so we have to be careful NOT to interfere,
or it will Piss Him Off.

That is WHY our Leadership is working two MORE Big "Free Trade" Deals (TPP & TTIP), and have Locked Out all representatives from Labor Rights, Human Rights, Consumer Rights, Citizens, and Environmental Protection Groups so they don't Piss Off the Invisible Hand.
[font size=1]but Shhhhhh! They want to keep it a SECRET so everybody will be surprised,
and the Invisible Hand will be happy!!!
So don't tell anyone.[/font]



[/font][font size=4]The Golden Calf of the Church of the Invisible Hand[/font]



We've been sacrificing American Job, Wages, and Benefits to this new GOD of "Free Markets" for 30 years now, and things are still getting WORSE for those of us who have to Work-for-a-Living.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023632141



Courtesy Flush

(4,558 posts)
13. I was curious how the guys in freeperland were handling this.
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 07:16 PM
Nov 2013

They truly live in their own reality.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3095732/posts

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MellowDem

(5,018 posts)
16. They aren't delusional on this...
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 07:34 PM
Nov 2013

the Pope backs all the usual bigotry the Catholic Church officially endorses.

What may be somewhat intellectually dishonest is for Freepers to just focus on the conservative aspects of the Pope.

But, we see the reverse here.

I know quite a few people with better morals than Pope Francis and his church who speak out against trickle down all the time.

I suppose it's OK to have a bigot on board to help us in that cause, but it's not something I'd really consider much of a victory.

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