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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 11:48 PM Jan 2014

Venture Capitalist Compares Anger Over Income Inequality to Nazi Germany

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Source: Talking Points Memo

Venture capitalist Tom Perkins compared liberals' push to reduce inequality in the United States to Nazi Germany's war on Jews.

In a letter to the editor published in The Wall Street Journal Perkins, a founding member of Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, asks whether a "progressive Kristallnacht" is coming. Perkins's letter is in response to an editorial on speech codes at American colleges.

"Writing from the epicenter of progressive thought, San Francisco, I would call attention to the parallels of fascist Nazi Germany to its war on its "one percent," namely its Jews, to the progressive war on the American one percent, namely the "rich," Perkins wrote in the letter to the editor.

He continued that he perceives "a rising tide of hatred of the successful one percent. There is outraged public reaction to the Google buses carrying technology workers from the city to the peninsula high-tech companies which employ them."


Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/tom-perkins-liberal-war-one-percent-kristallnacht



The irony is that Perkins is complaining about the caricature of rich people as being evil, yet he was convicted of involuntary manslaughter for killing a man with his yacht, which does make him an evil rich person.
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Venture Capitalist Compares Anger Over Income Inequality to Nazi Germany (Original Post) TomCADem Jan 2014 OP
The bastard can call it whatever he wants, I just hope it's coming. Lasher Jan 2014 #1
I don't believe Jews in pre-nazi Germany were a rich group daleo Jan 2014 #2
Actually, there was a stereotype going around cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #23
A lot of anti-Semitic propaganda portrayed them as such nxylas Jan 2014 #24
Fuck this guy (NT) The Wizard Jan 2014 #3
He wants pity, but he's full of shit, and doesn't even know history. QuestForSense Jan 2014 #4
Poor guy. neverforget Jan 2014 #5
Here is the comment from the company he founded and bears his name. Jesus Malverde Jan 2014 #6
Dude might as well.... ReRe Jan 2014 #7
That's right .. maybe we should burn Wall Street down. Think they'd get the message?? YOHABLO Jan 2014 #8
Better comparison would be Bolshevik or French Revolution ErikJ Jan 2014 #9
The 1% did just fine in Nazi Germany. Rozlee Jan 2014 #10
Good post. n/t ronnie624 Jan 2014 #11
Ever read The Sovereign State of ITT? Lasher Jan 2014 #16
What bastards. Rozlee Jan 2014 #17
ITT also owned Huth and Company of Berlin. Lasher Jan 2014 #29
A great book bucolic_frolic Jan 2014 #20
Didn't ITT also bankroll the coup that brought Pinochet to power? nxylas Jan 2014 #25
Yes, they funded the Pinochet coup in 1973. Lasher Jan 2014 #28
Just look at all the Princes, Dukes and Barons that were in the officer ranks.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #19
Oh, My, Increasing His Tax Rate From 15% To 20% DallasNE Jan 2014 #12
That analogy is worse than 10 Hitlers /nt Ash_F Jan 2014 #13
Tar and Feather Vulture Capitalists! Stainless Jan 2014 #14
For the involuntary manslaughter charge davidpdx Jan 2014 #15
Obviously this LOSER never heard of Godwin's Law. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #18
Any millionaire who would say some shit like that . . . another_liberal Jan 2014 #21
You know, the Nazis had pieces of flair they made the Jews wear. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2014 #22
And the psychopath speaks his truth; Moliere Jan 2014 #26
The man runs vulture fund Gothmog Jan 2014 #27
Locking - not LBN muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #30

Lasher

(27,638 posts)
1. The bastard can call it whatever he wants, I just hope it's coming.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 12:03 AM
Jan 2014

Soon and significant.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
2. I don't believe Jews in pre-nazi Germany were a rich group
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 12:04 AM
Jan 2014

So his comparison is irrelevant and non sequitur. Now, if he was talking about pre-revolution France that might make some sense.

cinnabonbon

(860 posts)
23. Actually, there was a stereotype going around
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 09:21 AM
Jan 2014

that jews were greedy/better with money, so they weren't hit as hard as "good and proper germans" when the recession hit. The stereotype of the penny-pinching jewish (and often corrupt) businessman was used to breed resentment, whether it was true or not.

Not that it matters, of course. This guy is still a douchebag and his attempt to make himself look like a victim is laughable.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
24. A lot of anti-Semitic propaganda portrayed them as such
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 09:22 AM
Jan 2014

That's really where the similarity ends. For one thing, nobody is seriously calling for the extermination of the 1%, except hyperbolically. Secondly, when you portray Jews as a rich group that controls everything, then that hate gets transferred onto all Jews, even those of modest means. Anger at the 1% , on the other hand, is strictly non-transferable.

The Wizard

(12,549 posts)
3. Fuck this guy (NT)
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 12:18 AM
Jan 2014

QuestForSense

(653 posts)
4. He wants pity, but he's full of shit, and doesn't even know history.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 12:34 AM
Jan 2014

neverforget

(9,437 posts)
5. Poor guy.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 12:38 AM
Jan 2014

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
6. Here is the comment from the company he founded and bears his name.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 12:41 AM
Jan 2014
https://twitter.com/kpcb/status/427185213261623297

Tom Perkins has not been involved in KPCB in years. We were shocked by his views expressed today in the WSJ and do not agree.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
7. Dude might as well....
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 12:59 AM
Jan 2014

.... stick a wide piece of adhesive tape on his forehead and label it "Yeah 1%!".

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
8. That's right .. maybe we should burn Wall Street down. Think they'd get the message??
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 01:21 AM
Jan 2014
 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
9. Better comparison would be Bolshevik or French Revolution
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 01:26 AM
Jan 2014

If the income gap gets too big and people begin to suffer while seeing people living in royalty, the people eventually rise up and throw the 1%/royalty out and form a new govt. Ironically the commy fearing Republicans policies are only increasing that possibility.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
10. The 1% did just fine in Nazi Germany.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 02:30 AM
Jan 2014

His example is ridiculous. Hitler dreaded a wealth drain and tried to attract businesses and corporations to Germany. He used prison camp labor to lure industries and capitalists. Hugo Boss, BMW, Deutsche Bank, Siemen's, Kodak and even Ford and Coke had dealings with the Third Reich. Over 2,000 businesses and industries were sued by Jews after the war for their use of camp slave labor. If Perkins is trying to use an analogy, the 1% as Jewish holocaust victims doesn't pass the smell test. The 1% in Nazi Germany aided and abetted Hitler in his use of them in forced labor.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
11. Good post. n/t
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 02:35 AM
Jan 2014

Lasher

(27,638 posts)
16. Ever read The Sovereign State of ITT?
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 03:57 AM
Jan 2014

The US CEO of ITT, Sosthenes Behn, was much more in league with Hitler than he was with holocaust victims. ITT held a 27% share in Focke-Wulf, which made fighter planes for the Luftwaffe. Then in the 1960s ITT won $27 million in compensation for damage inflicted on its share of the Focke-Wulf plant by Allied bombing during World War II.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
17. What bastards.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 04:43 AM
Jan 2014

I knew that BMW made aircraft parts for the Luftwaffe, but I never heard about the ITT business. Thank you for this. I'll read up some more on it.

Lasher

(27,638 posts)
29. ITT also owned Huth and Company of Berlin.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 10:55 AM
Jan 2014

Huth made radio and radar parts that were used in equipment for the Wehrmacht. A corporation has no soul.

Thus while I.T.T. Focke-Wolfe planes were bombing Allied ships, and I. T. T. lines were passing information to German submarines, I.T.T. direction .finders were saving other ships from torpedoes. (Anthony Sampson, The Sovereign State of I.T.T., New York: Stein & Day, 1973, p. 40.)

http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/chapter_05.htm

Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler

bucolic_frolic

(43,296 posts)
20. A great book
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 08:33 AM
Jan 2014

been years since i read it but seems to me there were hints in there
of future what phone surveillance

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sosthenes_Behn

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
25. Didn't ITT also bankroll the coup that brought Pinochet to power?
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 09:25 AM
Jan 2014

I know it was a telecoms company that was behind it, and that by an amazing coincidence, one of Pinochet's first acts as President was to privatize Chile's phone system.

Lasher

(27,638 posts)
28. Yes, they funded the Pinochet coup in 1973.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 10:38 AM
Jan 2014

They also bankrolled Franko's takeover in Spain.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
19. Just look at all the Princes, Dukes and Barons that were in the officer ranks....
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 05:09 AM
Jan 2014

The classic poster of the superiority of the noble class.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
12. Oh, My, Increasing His Tax Rate From 15% To 20%
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 02:45 AM
Jan 2014

Is the same as sending him to a gas chamber? Even his 20% is less than many Americans pay -- I know it is less than I pay on my retirement income. And how much does he have tucked away in the Cayman Islands. Indeed, cry me a river.

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
13. That analogy is worse than 10 Hitlers /nt
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 02:47 AM
Jan 2014

Stainless

(718 posts)
14. Tar and Feather Vulture Capitalists!
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 03:12 AM
Jan 2014

Perkins and Kevin O'Leary (Shark Tank) are particularly narcissistic and vocal assholes who come to mind for this therapy.

BTW, Huffington Post wouldn't allow a similar comment I tried posting on their site earlier today!

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
15. For the involuntary manslaughter charge
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 03:27 AM
Jan 2014

All he got was a $10,000 fine? Holy fuck. I see that was in France. In the US it would be 10-15 up state.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
18. Obviously this LOSER never heard of Godwin's Law.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 04:59 AM
Jan 2014
 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
21. Any millionaire who would say some shit like that . . .
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 08:42 AM
Jan 2014

My reaction to Mr. Perkins' whine is that any millionaire who would say some shit like that should have to live on what he pays his janitors for few months. Some fucking people!

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,198 posts)
22. You know, the Nazis had pieces of flair they made the Jews wear.
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 09:05 AM
Jan 2014

Moliere

(285 posts)
26. And the psychopath speaks his truth;
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 09:32 AM
Jan 2014

That money and wealth are his religion. What an asshole

Gothmog

(145,567 posts)
27. The man runs vulture fund
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 09:32 AM
Jan 2014

Vulture funds are nasty businesses

muriel_volestrangler

(101,364 posts)
30. Locking - not LBN
Sun Jan 26, 2014, 11:10 AM
Jan 2014

It's an opinion from a guy who we haven't heard of before, not a politician, expressed in a LTTE. Please feel free to repost in GD, or join one of the threads there about it. We already locked http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014708920 for the same reasons.

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