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Tony_FLADEM

(3,023 posts)
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 12:29 PM Jan 2014

CEO OF BITCOIN EXCHANGE ARRESTED

Source: Business Insider

The CEO of BitInstant, a Bitcoin exchange, has been arrested at JFK airport and charged with money laundering.

Charlie Shrem, along with a co-conspirator, is accused of selling over $1 million in Bitcoin to Silk Road users, who would then use them to buy drugs and other illicit items.

"Hiding behind their computers, both defendants are charged with knowingly contributing to and facilitating anonymous drug sales, earning substantial profits along the way," DEA agent James Hunt said in a release.

Shrem is also listed as a vice chairman at the Bitcoin Foundation.

BitInstant.com is currently offline. It was recently the subject of a class-action suit alleging misrepresentation of its services.

The arrest comes on the eve of a two-day state hearing about the future of Bitcoin in New York.

Full release from the Justice Department:




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CEO OF BITCOIN EXCHANGE ARRESTED (Original Post) Tony_FLADEM Jan 2014 OP
wow...not good.... Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #1
Wait A Minute billhicks76 Jan 2014 #24
I thought that said Spirochete Jan 2014 #2
Smoke & Mirrors :-/ n/t DeSwiss Jan 2014 #3
Meanwhile JP Morgan and Citi remain more or less unpunished. JoeyT Jan 2014 #4
That's putting it lightly fujiyama Jan 2014 #28
And I'm sure they'll be arresting bank CEOs for drug/terrorism money laundering next! villager Jan 2014 #5
What a stupid headline. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #6
that's pretty standard -- like "CEO of Bank arrested" phantom power Jan 2014 #8
I don't think a lot of people understand how BitCoin works. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #9
The latest I read about it, the encryption keys it uses aren't secured after all, and ... Amonester Jan 2014 #14
I'm also very curious. It's one of those technologies... phantom power Jan 2014 #21
I think it sounds like a financial Pet Rock, actually! MADem Jan 2014 #26
bit closer to bitcoin though PatrynXX Jan 2014 #11
Huh, that's actually a good point. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #13
Headlines very rarely use articles. Most people understand this is just one company. pnwmom Jan 2014 #19
Is Obama going to be arrested if drugs are purchased with dollars? Downwinder Jan 2014 #7
Don't give the knuckleheads ideas n/t Julian Englis Jan 2014 #15
Love to get Timmy on that! Demeter Jan 2014 #17
bitcoins aren't legal tender or currency. they're not issued or backed geek tragedy Jan 2014 #18
Bitcoins are not legal tender, but they are a legal currency. Xithras Jan 2014 #25
Good explanation - thanks! (n/t) Nihil Jan 2014 #29
Of course Wachovia laundered $378 million in drug money NCcoast Jan 2014 #10
Glad I don't have any shares Helen Borg Jan 2014 #12
I don't see how the feds have a leg to stand on Demeter Jan 2014 #16
Of course a self-regulated money supply is going to be susceptible to this. pnwmom Jan 2014 #20
Illegal Drugs sales is just an excuse DreamSmoker Jan 2014 #22
All I know about Bitcoin is that liberatarians love it. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2014 #23
And Jaime Dimon gets a couple million dollar bonus. fujiyama Jan 2014 #27

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
4. Meanwhile JP Morgan and Citi remain more or less unpunished.
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 12:43 PM
Jan 2014

Which means his crime wasn't money laundering for drug dealers, it's was money laundering for drug dealers without kicking the right bribes to the right politicians.

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
28. That's putting it lightly
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 01:33 AM
Jan 2014

The fines they face is pretty much window dressing.

These banks flaunt their crimes in public and get handed huge chunks of the GDP on a platter.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
5. And I'm sure they'll be arresting bank CEOs for drug/terrorism money laundering next!
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 12:43 PM
Jan 2014

In the spirit of equal justice, and all...

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
6. What a stupid headline.
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 12:44 PM
Jan 2014

Not your fault of course, you copy-pasted it exactly. Still. It's ONE bitcoin exchange. not the whole damn thing. This sort of thing has happened before.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
8. that's pretty standard -- like "CEO of Bank arrested"
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 12:48 PM
Jan 2014

Generally understood that its some particular bank, not "all banks"

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
9. I don't think a lot of people understand how BitCoin works.
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 12:55 PM
Jan 2014

But I hope you are right. It's an interesting financial technology. I don't know if its viable long term, but it'll be interesting to find out.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
14. The latest I read about it, the encryption keys it uses aren't secured after all, and ...
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 01:39 PM
Jan 2014

... that, once the creator of the concept himself was informed of that flaw, he got out of it all and left the whole thing behind.

Dunno if it's true or false, but I would never touch that crap even with a ten-foot pole.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
21. I'm also very curious. It's one of those technologies...
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 02:45 PM
Jan 2014

where social and political considerations are likely to swamp any practical issues. Actually, I suppose that describes all technologies.

The most interesting *technical* argument I've read is that the computational cost of block chain checksums makes bitcoins *inherently* deflationary. I'm not entirely convinced that's true, but I haven't proven it's wrong either. This claim is not to be confused with the specific monetary policy goals of its founders, where they appear to specifically want a deflationary policy, whether it is implied by the technology or not.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
26. I think it sounds like a financial Pet Rock, actually!
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 06:49 PM
Jan 2014

I think it's a fad, and once people stop believing, it'll crash and burn.

But who knows? Time will tell!

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
11. bit closer to bitcoin though
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 01:02 PM
Jan 2014

Shrem is also listed as a vice chairman at the Bitcoin Foundation.

although for all I know all the affiliates are vice chairmen

pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
19. Headlines very rarely use articles. Most people understand this is just one company.
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 02:33 PM
Jan 2014

But the others are equally susceptible to being mis-used.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
17. Love to get Timmy on that!
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 02:04 PM
Jan 2014

Of course, he's moved on to the Big Time. Hedge fund CEO, don't you know...

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
25. Bitcoins are not legal tender, but they are a legal currency.
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 06:22 PM
Jan 2014

"Legal tender" means a currency backed by a government.

"Currency" is any medium used to exchange items or wealth of any form. If I buy an acre of land from you for 20 cows, the cows are currency. There is no connection in the English language between the term "currency" and government. The only requirement for something to be a "currency" is that both parties have to agree on its value and exchangeability.

"Legal Currency" simply means a form of currency not banned by a government. The 1933 Emergency Banking Act made it illegal to use gold as a form of currency, so gold was no longer a legal currency in the United States. Cows, on the other hand, have always been a form of legal currency. "Legal tender" is a form of "currency", but the two terms do not mean the same thing.

Bitcoin is legal currency, but not legal tender. It's a legitimate and legal medium in which to exchange items or value, but it is not backed by a government.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
16. I don't see how the feds have a leg to stand on
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 02:03 PM
Jan 2014

Are they going to go after BofA for their clients use of their private funds?

pnwmom

(108,994 posts)
20. Of course a self-regulated money supply is going to be susceptible to this.
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 02:34 PM
Jan 2014

It was just a matter of time. Bit coin is today's tulip.

DreamSmoker

(841 posts)
22. Illegal Drugs sales is just an excuse
Mon Jan 27, 2014, 04:38 PM
Jan 2014

We are now in a Police State as it is..
Just how much more of our freedom will we give up at this point in time???
My God, Law Enforcement now has more rights than you and I combined..

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
27. And Jaime Dimon gets a couple million dollar bonus.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 01:31 AM
Jan 2014

The DEA is a racket. I'm no conspiracy theorist, but this is so blatant it in driving it home who really controls every lever of this so called "Democracy".

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