Florida Man Is Denied Bail in Killing at a Movie Theater
Source: NY Times
DADE CITY, Fla. After a day in court in which a grainy video of his deadly encounter with a fellow moviegoer was shown, a retired Tampa police captain was denied bail on Friday on charges of second-degree murder.
The retired captain, Curtis J. Reeves Jr., 71, who is accused of fatally shooting Chad Oulson, 43, at a theater outside Tampa on Jan. 13, was led away by Pasco County sheriffs deputies.
Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/08/us/florida-man-is-denied-bail-in-killing-at-a-movie-theater.html?_r=0
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alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)tofuandbeer
(1,314 posts)Yeah, he scared you with his popcorn.
What sick effed up law.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Could have been an angry person his entire life. Sounds like his wife knew what he was like. Perhaps when he was a police officer he took out his anger on some people. He pulled that gun in the movie so fast, he had to have at the least threatened people with a gun before.
The NRA gun sellers and those 'stand your ground' laws protect & keep guns in control of angry people like him.
mountain grammy
(26,646 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)colorado_ufo
(5,737 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)struggle4progress
(118,332 posts)Posted: 12/10/2012
By: CNN Wire
... Manuel Pardo, 56, was convicted of nine counts of first-degree murder in 1988 and was sentenced to death ...
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/national/officer-to-be-executed-manuel-pardo-former-florida-officer-convicted-of-9-murders
IMO we understand the world better when our analysis is fact-based: bullshitting just doesn't help us
sked14
(579 posts)Joseph Kent McGowen.
http://civiliansdown.com/site/tag/joseph-kent-mcgowen/#sthash.elDIFbNl.dpbs
sked14
(579 posts)A former police officer was sentenced Wednesday to life in prison with a chance of parole after 57 years for killing his pregnant lover and their unborn child, avoiding a possible death sentence.
Stark County Common Pleas Judge Charles Brown Jr. rejected a defense request to merge the sentences against Bobby Cutts Jr. The judge could have allowed parole eligibility earlier.
Jurors spared Cutts, 30, the death penalty in the most serious charge, an aggravated murder count in the death of the fetus.
Cutts had sobbed on the witness stand when he claimed the death of 26-year-old Jessie Davis from an elbow to the throat last June was an accident during an argument. He said he dumped her body in a park in a panic. He returned to the witness stand after his conviction to ask jurors to spare his life.
A quick google search.
wocaonimabi
(187 posts)cant have white folks just shooting each other and claiming SYG why that law was written so that white
folks can shoot people of color in cold blood and get away with it.
You allow white folks to start shooting each other under SYG then you will end up with a Hatfield's and McCoy's type situation in Florida going on for the next few decades and that discourages tourists visiting the Sunshine State.
As it is now only people of color have to really worry about SYG in Fl and that is what they wanted in the first place.
Anyone else notice in all the Florida Vacation ads that come up on the TV you never see people of color in them except in subservient roles to the white folks in the ads?
PeoViejo
(2,178 posts)"The Pen is mightier than the Sword" has a new partner.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Neoma
(10,039 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)csziggy
(34,137 posts)BodieTown
(147 posts)It looks to me, in the second "clearer" video, that the victim grabbed the killer's own popcorn and threw it back at him, and the killer seemed to already have the gun in his right hand, because he instantly drew the gun and shot the guy.
That is indefensible. The killer knew what was hitting him (his own popcorn). And if he had that gun in hand, that's premeditated.
OMG, what scum.
EC
(12,287 posts)How come so many of these guys are scared shitless of everything and anything?
bayareaboy
(793 posts)and watch Faux News.
Wash. state Desk Jet
(3,426 posts)Contrary to the court of public opinion here at DU I am in total agreement with the bottom line
in the article where the judge states ( no matter what my ruling on this motion Mr. Reeves ,nothing changes about the fact you are presumed innocent.
I really don't think Cheney shot his hunting partner the lawyer intentionally. And at the same time I do not think under the circumstances at that time the former vice president's concentration of thought was 100 percent as it should have been in time in place. I think he was preoccupied and that to a given he shouldn't have been out there on a hunting expedition because he was not all together there . He was not 100 percent in time in place. He knew full well the first law of gun ownership in that guns were created for one reason and that reason is to kill.
And when one is out hunting with that gun ,there is but one purpose or intent. This goes on into carrying the weapon loaded for bear and the responsibilities thereof. Out in the field hunting for game is not the place to talk business such as it is on the golf course. And thats a fact. We know that it is impossible to think of two things at the same time. And on the hunt one does not wonder off in thought to Dairy Queen thinking about a basket burger with some fries carrying a loaded gun readied for firing.When the hunters level of concentration is divided,that is when gun accidents do happen.
One has to know when to pack it in and say today is not my day out in it.That has to do with responsible choices .
I would consider the possibility Reeves did not intend to fire his weapon of premeditated thought. And I would consider it possible given his training as an LEO that he drew his weapon as a precaution as he will have if he were still active on the police force. And I am perfectly aware that he is no longer an officer of the law and there is much in question as to what is or isn't justifiable under Florida laws.
The prosecution summed it by saying if he had left his gun in his car than we wouldn't be here.
And if a criminal had broken the window out of that car, than robbed that gun, than later used that to kill somebody ,than the prosecutor will have said ,if he had left his gun at home ,we wouldn't be here and on and so to no end.
Again the object was created for one reason.
As of yet there has been no release of physiological or psychiatric evaluations on Mr. Reeves and I wouldn't rule out undiagnosed PT SD .
His wife said he has never shot anybody before-, if he never did that ,than what happened even to Reeves shouldn't have happened.He said so,he said he didn't believe he fired his weapon. And that does say something even if we choose not to believe it.
In short there is far more to this than meets the eye.
Paladin
(28,272 posts)Wash. state Desk Jet
(3,426 posts)The thing about the video recording is there was no sound and you therefore heard nothing and if it's my voice you think you heard I do not think you got my meaning.
Your view however is noted for whatever it amounts to. My guess is you were not there at that time in that theater and so safe be it to say other than that video you saw nothing and heard nothing. I cannot say what actually happened -transpired in that heated dispute and that video recording really doesn't show me much and of that seen I did not hear a thing.
I am in no position to judge and my views or opinions are reserved due to the lack of data .
And it looks like the defense is going to file an appeal on the bail/bond decision. And so it's just ill- conceived at this point in time in it to pass judgment .
God help us all if they start picking people out of the jury pool to serve straight out of the court of public opinion.
Hear me there ?
Paladin
(28,272 posts)Incitatus
(5,317 posts)statements are pretty damning.
Wash. state Desk Jet
(3,426 posts)but I do see what you mean. His wifes statements could also serve to support his state of mind or being should the defense go for the PT SD having gone undiagnosed ,early onset dementia ,Alzheimer's on and so on. 71 years of age.
I would imagine it would be a most difficult thing to do for a wife to try to explain to her husband that his mind/brain isn't functioning as it once did. Not to mention she herself was no doubt in shock at the time of the incident.
Apparently she told the truth when questioned. What it will lead to is dependant upon how the case is presented at trial.
It would seem to me a young man of sound mind and the ability to reason could have been defused the situation rather than escalate it. Clearly Reeves has issues or psychological problems that are easily realized but not by Reeves himself.Or maybe he is or was in denial,I dono.
But thats just an opinion .
TheKentuckian
(25,029 posts)A poster child for the reason to have the ability to deny pre - trial release at all.