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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:23 PM Feb 2014

Kentucky trooper wants job back because raping that girl was just a ‘moral mistake’

Source: Raw Story

By David Edwards
Thursday, February 13, 2014 13:49 EST

A Kentucky state trooper told a trial board last month that he would like to have his job back after he was fired for having sex with a 15-year-old girl, calling the relationship a “moral mistake.”

In a transcript obtained by WDRB, former Kentucky State Trooper Jerry Clanton asserted to the Kentucky State Police Trial Board that he was under the false impression that the 15-year-old girl was 18 years old when he started having sex with her.

“I made a moral mistake. And, I’ve gotten right with my family,” the married former trooper insisted. “I recognize that it is an embarrassment to the State Police. But I have not compromised myself in the fact that, in my mind, all I was doing was making a moral mistake.”


“I would never have gone over there. I would have never spoken to her, never texted her, never anything had I thought she was anything but 18.”

KSP Commander of Legal Services Capt. Matt Feltner, however, felt that the incident was more serious.

“You can’t put a 15-year-old girl in a car, drive her up in the middle of nowhere and have sex with her,” Feltner said. “I mean that doesn’t have to be written out somewhere to know it’s completely wrong and outside the lines.”

During the hearing, Clanton explained that State Trooper Stratford Young had sex with the girl first, which he said resulted in his inappropriate relationship.

Clanton admitted to having sex with the girl on at least four separate occasions, once on the trunk of his police cruiser while it was pulled over on the side of the road.

“I didn’t intend on having sex with her,” he said.

In the end, the trial board declined to give Clanton his job back.

Investigators believe that a Brandenburg officer and a Breckinridge County Sheriff’s deputy also had sex with the girl.

None of the four men had been charged as of Wednesday. According to WDRB, the girl is angry that no one is in jail. Her father has also called on prosecutors to take action, but it would be up to a grand jury to decide if anyone will be charged.

Watch the video below from WDRB, broadcast Feb. 13, 2013.



Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/13/kentucky-trooper-wants-job-back-because-raping-that-girl-was-just-a-moral-mistake/



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Kentucky trooper wants job back because raping that girl was just a ‘moral mistake’ (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2014 OP
In related news, the estate of Adolf Eichmann has petitioned..... Loaded Liberal Dem Feb 2014 #1
The Holocaust: A frat house initiation that got a tiny bit out of control rocktivity Feb 2014 #39
Once may be a mistake Isoldeblue Feb 2014 #2
I bet when he pulled someone over and they used the "I didn't intend" line, he'd ticket them. nt TheBlackAdder Feb 2014 #3
The "moral mistake" might actually lie within the community allowing him to make his plea n/t bkanderson76 Feb 2014 #4
WTF?! sakabatou Feb 2014 #5
FWIW, that Fullerton cop who was acquitted of killing a homeless man (on camera, no less) Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #23
*••**P.I.G.**••* Whisp Feb 2014 #6
Fuck this Pig Feral Child Feb 2014 #15
I believe that all four of them would have known. polly7 Feb 2014 #19
I'm thinking she couldn't drive so surely that came up a time or two. How did she get places? nt okaawhatever Feb 2014 #24
Yes. Feral Child Feb 2014 #42
Why would a DMV have a 15 year old in the system? hughee99 Feb 2014 #44
Sorry I've delayed my response Feral Child Feb 2014 #49
Ewhhhhh... SoapBox Feb 2014 #7
But, but, but he's 'made it right with' his family and he hasn't compromised himself, he says. Shrike47 Feb 2014 #8
+1,000 freshwest Feb 2014 #31
No sense of shame or anything. Intitledto do anything they could get away with. Where do they.... marble falls Feb 2014 #9
The difference is, if she were 18, it could have been consensual thesquanderer Feb 2014 #14
He says his family's worked through this. There's a weird cop dynamic here, they knew what .... marble falls Feb 2014 #17
If she had been 18 ... surrealAmerican Feb 2014 #22
But, it could happen again, that's why you were fired. 50 years in prison would be about right SDjack Feb 2014 #10
I'm sorry Scairp Feb 2014 #11
Is it wrong to do something like that? It was in Kentucky, they may have even been related. olddad56 Feb 2014 #12
Vomit. n/t Laelth Feb 2014 #13
There is so much wrong here that it's hard to start. rhett o rick Feb 2014 #16
Four rapes are gonna look terrible on any resume, I guess. Orsino Feb 2014 #18
Even if she was 18, this smells like an abuse of power/authority cui bono Feb 2014 #20
Do we just call statutory rape "rape" now? Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #21
Yes. We DO just call statutory rape rape now. Because it is rape. Squinch Feb 2014 #25
Someone needs to tell the Department of Health and Human Services Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #35
Yes exactly. If one has sex with someone who is too young to consent, one is committing rape. Squinch Feb 2014 #37
Legally it IS rape. Xithras Feb 2014 #26
Going after a 15 year old is just not enough like rape for you? You want it to be different? Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #34
Not worthy of a serious reply. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #36
No... I'm really not very interested in how you justify going after 15 year olds as not rape Ohio Joe Feb 2014 #38
Is statutory rape not rapey enough for you? Or can you not contemplate that the absence of the msanthrope Feb 2014 #47
“I didn’t intend on having sex with her,” he said. DeSwiss Feb 2014 #27
Yep. He just turned around, and all of a sudden, he (and three of his cop buddies) Volaris Mar 2021 #50
Was he charged? If not, why not? That's what I'd like to know. A conviction would presumably silvershadow Feb 2014 #28
From the article, silvershadow... DonViejo Feb 2014 #30
He can have his "job" back after he is castrated!! EOM freemay20 Feb 2014 #29
The objectification of girls is out of control. blackspade Feb 2014 #32
My visceral reaction to these types of stories is so frustrating riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #33
You forgot the "Not From The Onion" disclaimer n/t rocktivity Feb 2014 #40
Unreal. Damn. Solly Mack Feb 2014 #41
Nope CFLDem Feb 2014 #43
I'm surprised that he didn't file for disability for his awful case of Restless Penis Syndrome MrScorpio Feb 2014 #45
O.M.G. City Lights Feb 2014 #46
They made the first right choice by not giving him his job back davidpdx Feb 2014 #48

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
39. The Holocaust: A frat house initiation that got a tiny bit out of control
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 12:59 AM
Feb 2014

but in the nicest possible way.


rocktivity

Isoldeblue

(1,135 posts)
2. Once may be a mistake
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:31 PM
Feb 2014

Maybe...... But four times?? He probably would have done it more if he hadn't been caught. He should be in jail!

Lying sack of shit.....

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
23. FWIW, that Fullerton cop who was acquitted of killing a homeless man (on camera, no less)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 08:08 PM
Feb 2014

Is suing the city for wrongful termination and trying to get his job back...He supposedly has a fair amount of support from the public and his former comrades as well...

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
15. Fuck this Pig
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:27 PM
Feb 2014

and any defenders.


I will guaranfuckingtee you that he would have busted a civilian that used that excuse.

He was "intending" to cheat on his wife and didn't bother to run a DMV check on his "intended"?

Cops cheat, it comes with the job. I mean, the overwhelming majority of them cheat. Very few do not succumb to the temptation sometime in their career, and it's part of the "unspoken covenant" to cover for any copper stepping out on his/her spouse.

And, they all use departmental resources to check the background of their paramours. He KNEW she was underage and felt that he was privileged to ignore it.

Cause he was a cop.

polly7

(20,582 posts)
19. I believe that all four of them would have known.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 07:25 PM
Feb 2014

They passed around a child, it's not possible that none of them looked into her age. jmo.

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
49. Sorry I've delayed my response
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 10:52 AM
Feb 2014

took the weekend off.

My point is that he certainly would have tried to check her through DMV (as well as checking for a criminal record) and should have been suspicious of her age due to the lack of record.

No driver's license should have been a big indicator that he needed to research further before committing adultery with this girl. The tools are there and I asure you that police officers (notorious for philandering) avail themselves of those tools on a regular, presumptive basis.

This bufoon was less diligent checking out his intended paramour than he would have been on a traffic stop.

Or he's a liar that got caught committing premeditated statutory rape.



Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
8. But, but, but he's 'made it right with' his family and he hasn't compromised himself, he says.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:17 PM
Feb 2014

Geez, guy, the behavior people will excuse in themselves is mind-boggling.

marble falls

(57,106 posts)
9. No sense of shame or anything. Intitledto do anything they could get away with. Where do they....
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:17 PM
Feb 2014

draw the line? If she were 18, it'd still be wrong. no defense, no defense at all. Three cops need to be in jail.

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
14. The difference is, if she were 18, it could have been consensual
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:25 PM
Feb 2014

and if that were the case, he might only be an adulterer instead of a rapist, which is generally not a job-killing offense, though it may be a marriage-killing one.

Since the age of consent in KY is 16, and the girl was 15, if he is only losing his job, it seems to me he is getting off easy, for having gotten off easy.

marble falls

(57,106 posts)
17. He says his family's worked through this. There's a weird cop dynamic here, they knew what ....
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 07:02 PM
Feb 2014

they were doing, they just thought they were getting away with this. I can't believe there aren't photos or videos. That would lead to kiddy porn charges. These guys knew what they were doing. And swapping her around? They freaking knew and there's no way these guys didn't take some sort of souvenir.

surrealAmerican

(11,362 posts)
22. If she had been 18 ...
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 08:02 PM
Feb 2014

... it would still have been having sex while on the job, and literally on a police vehicle. That should have cost him his job, but would not have been the criminal act it is, since she was not 18.

"Adultery" is between him and his wife, sex while on duty is between him and his employer, which in this case is the public.

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
10. But, it could happen again, that's why you were fired. 50 years in prison would be about right
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:18 PM
Feb 2014

to cool his tool.

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
11. I'm sorry
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:19 PM
Feb 2014

But exactly HOW many different cops are having sex with a 15 year old? Jesus...

And they can save that "dumb hillbilly" act they got going on. They know what's what and how old people are. I bet he claimed to be a "Christian" too.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
12. Is it wrong to do something like that? It was in Kentucky, they may have even been related.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:20 PM
Feb 2014

and, after all, he has gotten right with his family. Those judges are just sticklers for regulations.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
16. There is so much wrong here that it's hard to start.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:41 PM
Feb 2014

He and his pals should of course see prison for rape. Second he thinks that he gets one free legal and moral indiscretion. Well if he was asking to go back to work at Burger King, maybe. Third, he is obviously dumb as a board as proven by his testimony. I would hope that would eliminate him from working for law enforcement. Fourth, he thinks it's more important to "make it right with his family" than the victim and victim's family. (I am curious why he hasnt been taken out in the woods and spoken harshly to, by her family. Just sayin) Fifth, he thought she was 18. Did I mention this guy is an idiot?

And I bet he gets to continue carrying a gun.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
20. Even if she was 18, this smells like an abuse of power/authority
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 07:35 PM
Feb 2014

to force a young girl to have sex. Why is it always in/on his state trooper vehicle? Why are there other state troopers having sex with the same girl? So it's clearly not that the original trooper was dating her. Why did he feel it necessary to drive to the middle of nowhere? Clearly he knew it was wrong at the time or doing it.

Send him to jail.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
21. Do we just call statutory rape "rape" now?
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 07:49 PM
Feb 2014

This appears to be a case of statutory rape, in that there is no suggestion I've seen of coercion or force.

I'm not sure that it's a good thing to elide the difference between sexual contact that is a crime because of age (statutory rape) and forcible rape.

That cop is still a sleazeball, though, and violated the law. He shouldn't get his job back, and I don't understand why he and the others aren't being prosecuted for statutory rape.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
35. Someone needs to tell the Department of Health and Human Services
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 11:39 PM
Feb 2014

HHS has something called Statutory Rape: A Guide to State Laws, which suggests that the term "statutory rape" is still in use. And there's this from the executive summary:

"Criminal laws deal with the legality of sexual acts. Statutory rape laws assume that all sexual activities involving individuals below a certain age are coercive. This is true even if both parties believe their participation is voluntary. Generally, statutory rape laws define the age below which an individual is legally incapable of consenting to sexual activity. To complicate matters, few states use the term “statutory rape” in their criminal codes. More often, a state’s code will address legality of different sexual activities involving minors (e.g., sexual contact versus penetration). Sometimes it is difficult to identify the applicable laws because they are often embedded in the section of the code dealing with other sexual offenses (e.g., sexual assault, forcible rape)."

I do note that the summary says that few states use the term in their criminal codes.



Squinch

(50,955 posts)
37. Yes exactly. If one has sex with someone who is too young to consent, one is committing rape.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 11:47 PM
Feb 2014

Or are you saying you think a 15 year old is fair game?

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
26. Legally it IS rape.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 08:40 PM
Feb 2014

Rape is any case in which consent is not given. In most cases, it's because the victim cannot give consent or chooses not to. In the case of statutory rape, it's because the victim was legally prohibited from doing so.

If no consent occurs, then it's rape. The fact that she was a willing participant is irrelevant.

The differences between statutory and forcible rape are reflected in the sentences handed down for each, but the fact that states treat it as a lesser offense doesn't change the fact that it's still rape. No consent was legally given.

Ohio Joe

(21,758 posts)
34. Going after a 15 year old is just not enough like rape for you? You want it to be different?
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:46 PM
Feb 2014

Un-Fucking believable.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
36. Not worthy of a serious reply.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 11:41 PM
Feb 2014

But if you're actually interested in the topic, see my reply to Squinch above.

Ohio Joe

(21,758 posts)
38. No... I'm really not very interested in how you justify going after 15 year olds as not rape
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 12:56 AM
Feb 2014

It's enough to know you make such sick distinctions.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
47. Is statutory rape not rapey enough for you? Or can you not contemplate that the absence of the
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 01:21 AM
Feb 2014

ability to consent is the definition of force?

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
27. “I didn’t intend on having sex with her,” he said.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 08:46 PM
Feb 2014
- Slipped and fell into this moral mistake, did ya?

K&R

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
50. Yep. He just turned around, and all of a sudden, he (and three of his cop buddies)
Sat Mar 27, 2021, 01:41 PM
Mar 2021

Was just having sex with her. Just like that.
Weirdest thing you ever saw, your honor...

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
28. Was he charged? If not, why not? That's what I'd like to know. A conviction would presumably
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 09:02 PM
Feb 2014

preclude him from consideration from a job in law enforcement.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
30. From the article, silvershadow...
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 09:18 PM
Feb 2014
None of the four men had been charged as of Wednesday. According to WDRB, the girl is angry that no one is in jail. Her father has also called on prosecutors to take action, but it would be up to a grand jury to decide if anyone will be charged.


blackspade

(10,056 posts)
32. The objectification of girls is out of control.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:10 PM
Feb 2014

What kind of sick fuck takes advantage of a teen this way....

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
33. My visceral reaction to these types of stories is so frustrating
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:20 PM
Feb 2014

There's wrong on so many levels it makes me sick.

How do you address this kind of hideous mind-set?



MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
45. I'm surprised that he didn't file for disability for his awful case of Restless Penis Syndrome
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 11:16 PM
Feb 2014

This guy has absolutely NO business being a cop.

Hopefully his child raping ass is on a sex offender's database.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
48. They made the first right choice by not giving him his job back
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 06:45 AM
Feb 2014

Let's see if they make the other one by charging him and bringing him to trial.

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