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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:26 PM Feb 2014

Ted Cruz introduces bill to stop Obama, feds from ‘forcing gay marriage on all 50 states’

Source: Raw Story

By Tom Boggioni
Thursday, February 13, 2014 14:41 EST

Citing states’ rights, Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) has introduced an anti-gay marriage bill, asking Congress to amend U.S. law “with regard to the definition of ‘marriage’ and ‘spouse’”.

According to The Huffington Post, the Texas Republican introduced the bill on Wednesday asking the Senate to amend U.S. law “with regard to the definition of ‘marriage’ and ‘spouse’ for Federal purposes and to ensure respect for State regulation of marriage.”

Stating that he supports “traditional marriage”, Cruz said “The Obama Administration should not be trying to force gay marriage on all 50 states. We should respect the states, and the definition of marriage should be left to democratically elected legislatures, not dictated from Washington. This bill will safeguard the ability of states to preserve traditional marriage for its residents.”

In a statement accompanying the bill, Cruz and the bill’s only co-sponsor, Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah), claimed their bill “will ensure the federal government gives the same deference to the 33 states that define marriage as the union between one man and one woman as it does to the 17 states that have chosen to recognize same-sex unions.”

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/02/13/ted-cruz-introduces-bill-to-stop-obama-feds-from-forcing-gay-marriage-on-all-50-states/





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Ted Cruz introduces bill to stop Obama, feds from ‘forcing gay marriage on all 50 states’ (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2014 OP
What a waste of fucking time. He knows the President will veto this IF it Purveyor Feb 2014 #1
It's only a waste of time if he's trying to get the bill passed. He's not, he's fund raising and okaawhatever Feb 2014 #34
Even This Court, Sir, Would Rule That Un-Constitutional On Equal Protection Grounds The Magistrate Feb 2014 #2
The RePugs; working for government intrusion into people's lives and rights. Nika Feb 2014 #3
How much is this guy getting paid? TBF Feb 2014 #4
Put Cruz on Cruise to Bermuda Triangle Loaded Liberal Dem Feb 2014 #5
This is an issue with the backing of the citizens and though Obama may back same sex marriage Thinkingabout Feb 2014 #6
So, to leave it to the states he wants to... overturn DOMA? AtheistCrusader Feb 2014 #7
He's not too bright....... Swede Atlanta Feb 2014 #8
Very well stated Swede.... And of course this is just another Reagan "states rights" BS argument groundloop Feb 2014 #11
No one is forcing anyone into gay marriage. liberalmuse Feb 2014 #9
‘forcing gay marriage on all 50 states’ Botany Feb 2014 #10
ROFL SoapBox Feb 2014 #13
What kills me is this little stunt which will go nowhere is gonna cost ..... Botany Feb 2014 #15
Every time this freak speaks... SoapBox Feb 2014 #12
Hahahahahaha Scairp Feb 2014 #14
Lovely. (sarcasm) Yet another complete waste of time from our friends on the right. n/t Laelth Feb 2014 #16
Redirecting attention away from states BadgerKid Feb 2014 #17
That bill is going to be as successful as today's United Flight 3823 GSO->EWR. mwooldri Feb 2014 #18
The Cruz klan needs to go back to Canada, or Cuba, or any of those other places they left. blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #19
Ted Cruz is the face of domestic terrorism in the US underthematrix Feb 2014 #20
Exactly! The good thumping republicans don't get it as they vote for domestic terrorism. If capable RKP5637 Feb 2014 #28
Posturing for his base Tom Ripley Feb 2014 #21
Would it be disrespectful to refer to him as Senator Asshat? wocaonimabi Feb 2014 #22
The Ted Cruz Song HoosierCowboy Feb 2014 #23
What? Cruz didn't add "down our throats"? Heh. WinkyDink Feb 2014 #24
Waste of time. It'll be DOA sakabatou Feb 2014 #25
Read the Consitution you miserable idiot underpants Feb 2014 #26
Cruz is jealous of Santorum. He wants a medal too from Putin for his gay bashing! RKP5637 Feb 2014 #27
what a freaking lunatic.... bowens43 Feb 2014 #29
Perhaps someone should be asking Congress to amend U.S. law... Alkene Feb 2014 #30
Scrutinizing your marriage license HockeyMom Feb 2014 #31
They do care. What they're doing is the whole point. yardwork Feb 2014 #35
Ah, little Teddy is grandstanding again! hamsterjill Feb 2014 #32
Douchebags! closeupready Feb 2014 #33
 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
1. What a waste of fucking time. He knows the President will veto this IF it
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:29 PM
Feb 2014

should ever make it to his desk which it won't. Never make it through the Senate.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
34. It's only a waste of time if he's trying to get the bill passed. He's not, he's fund raising and
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 08:34 PM
Feb 2014

rabble rousing. Probably keeping the fundies busy with this stuff so they don't notice corporate America robbng the country blind.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
2. Even This Court, Sir, Would Rule That Un-Constitutional On Equal Protection Grounds
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:30 PM
Feb 2014

He doubtless knows this, of course, and is engaged in the usual posturing aimed at bilking the rubes....

Nika

(546 posts)
3. The RePugs; working for government intrusion into people's lives and rights.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:31 PM
Feb 2014

And of course Cruz is also showboating with legislation to posture for a high profile in the presidential nominee contenders department.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
6. This is an issue with the backing of the citizens and though Obama may back same sex marriage
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:33 PM
Feb 2014

Saying Obama is pushing this is not true. Ted needs to push something the citizens are for more than declaring Obama is forcing every state.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
8. He's not too bright.......
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:42 PM
Feb 2014

Washington is not forcing same-sex marriage on any state.

What the Executive Branch is saying is that, pursuant to the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the Constitution, a marriage recognized in the state in which it was performed, must be recognized as "valid" for purposes of any federal law or benefit whether the marriage be heterosexual or homosexual.

There must be a legal point I am missing because I have often thought this whole issue would be put to bed with the recognition that a same gender marriage performed in say Massachusetts must be recognized in my (not home) state of Georgia under the FF&CC which states "Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state."

It doesn't allow one state to decide if it wants to recognize a marriage or a contract or a divorce performed in another state simply on the basis of sexual orientation.

But for poor Mr. Cruz who is so stupid as to make a box of rocks look like Rhoades Scholars, his bill will (1) Never pass and (2) Does nothing to achieve its stated purpose.

Traditional marriage is not threatened by same-gender marriages. Traditional marriages are typically victims of infidelity and financial difficulties.

I don't see how keeping two men or women from marrying will prevent a husband or a wife from having an affair or help them avoid financial difficulties.

He should consider the causes of stress in marriages - unemployment or underemployment, no living wages, no access to affordable health care, inability to make ends meet, no "family support" for child care and, increasingly, elder care. Lack of maternity and paternity leave, etc.

Discriminating against same gender couples will not protect or preserve traditional marriage. Heterosexuals are doing a bang-up job of destroying the institution themselves.

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
11. Very well stated Swede.... And of course this is just another Reagan "states rights" BS argument
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:08 PM
Feb 2014

ANY time a politician, especially one of the R persuasion, talks about "states rights" I already know that it's about discriminating against one of the minority populations in this country. (I've had the secret decoder ring for quite some time now!!!!)

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
9. No one is forcing anyone into gay marriage.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 05:43 PM
Feb 2014

The right wing's wording (and thinking) is seriously messed up. Heteros can still marry as they please. No one who is not gay is being forced into homosexual marriage. Whether or not gays want to marry should be their business. You don't see gays sticking their noses into straight marriage and straights maybe should focus on their own crumbling marriages. I don't believe in marriage, but you don't see me campaigning to stop it, or even opening my mouth about it to anyone (except here, to make a point). They don't have to like gay marriage, but they do have to recognize civil rights in this country. If that is too difficult, instead of trying to take the US back into the f*cking stone age, they might consider relocating to the many countries that are still in line with their archaic and inhumane views on human rights.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
10. ‘forcing gay marriage on all 50 states’
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:00 PM
Feb 2014


I have found (as a straight guy) out that if you are not gay and you are a man
you don't have to marry another man or even have sex w/him but the equal
protection clause of the 14th amendment is written so that sooner of later gay
marriage will be the law of the land.

Botany

(70,516 posts)
15. What kills me is this little stunt which will go nowhere is gonna cost .....
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:18 PM
Feb 2014

.... hundreds of thousands of dollars because it will chew up time and labor
in the US senate when they could be working on something that might help
the American people. But Ted will also say w/ a straight face that he is a
"fiscal conservative."

BadgerKid

(4,553 posts)
17. Redirecting attention away from states
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:22 PM
Feb 2014

and on himself. Sigh.

There is a shot at a US constitutional amendment if 21 more states get behind gay marriages.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
18. That bill is going to be as successful as today's United Flight 3823 GSO->EWR.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 06:30 PM
Feb 2014

In other words, Cancelled.

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
28. Exactly! The good thumping republicans don't get it as they vote for domestic terrorism. If capable
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 09:33 AM
Feb 2014

of reading, they need to brush up on the the equality and freedom aspects of the US.

 

wocaonimabi

(187 posts)
22. Would it be disrespectful to refer to him as Senator Asshat?
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 07:17 AM
Feb 2014

or would it just confuse people with the high number of Republican Asshats in the Senate today?

Alkene

(752 posts)
30. Perhaps someone should be asking Congress to amend U.S. law...
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 10:00 AM
Feb 2014

...with regard to the definition of ‘Republican’ and ‘sociopath’, to prevent them from trying to force intolerance on all 50 states.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
31. Scrutinizing your marriage license
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 10:36 AM
Feb 2014

You live in a state that allows gay marriage and move to one which bans it. You need a driver's license in the new state. They want to see your old license, BC, and Marriage License. Clerk has to carefully check out that ML to see if you are married to a member of the opposite sex. Same sex marriage? Clerk will not give you a driver's license with your married name. This is already happening in Florida.

I recently had to renew my Driver's License. I married to a man 40 years ago in NY, but since NY recognizes gay marriage, I knew that clerk would be checking names for gender. Screw you, you are NOT getting my ML. If you won't recognize ALL NY marriages, I will not show you mine. I gave them my Passport instead. None of your business WHO I am married to. TRY not taking a Federal document for ID.

This is just a very MINOR problem that is happening right now. Others issues are far worse. My daughter had to have emergency surgery. Fortunately, she is in NY where her wife can be at her side and if something happened, can make medical decisions for her. If she and her wife were here in Florida? They would be considered TOTAL STRANGERS. They need to see an attorney and have legal documents drawn up for Health Proxy and POA if they travel to a state that won't recognize their marriage? That is absurd, and insulting.

Do these stupid, bigoted congress critters understand any of these repercussions? They don't care.

yardwork

(61,650 posts)
35. They do care. What they're doing is the whole point.
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 12:35 PM
Feb 2014

They want to take away people's humanity.

Gave you a heart for being such a great mom!

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