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Turborama

(22,109 posts)
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 06:07 AM Feb 2014

Venezuela's poor join protests as turmoil grips Chávez's revolution

Source: The Guardian

The poor neighbourhood of Petare in western Caracas is not an obvious hotbed of anti-government sentiment. In the past, its residents have been among the major beneficiaries of Venezuela's public health and education campaigns, and an economic policy that resulted in one of the sharpest falls in inequality in the world.

But as demonstrations sweep several major cities, even the people of Petare have taken to the streets to protest again surging inflation, alarming murder rates and shortages of essential commodities.

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Government officials claim the protests are limited, but the sense of tension – as well as government repression – is escalating. On Wednesday night, groups of protesters across the country were dispersed by National Guard troops firing teargas and rubber bullets in what has been the strongest show of government force so far.

The centre of Valencia – a northern industrial city and Venezuela's third largest – was filled with flames as demonstrators blocked the streets.

In the Altavista area of Puerto Ordaz, in Bolivar state, witnesses said national guard troops fired rubber bullets and teargas to break up a student protest camp, and stood by as about 60 plainclothes government supporters on motorbikes opened fire at protesters. "The tanks, the guard and the motorizados were all shooting at the students. There are several wounded," said Ines Duran, who had been providing food and water to the students. "They have the weapons, we only have sticks and rocks." Despite the increased risk of violence, Farias said he was determined to keep protesting. "I am scared, but I am also scared on a daily basis", he said, adding that he had been the target of multiple robberies. "I am sick of not imagining a better future".

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/20/venezuelas-poor-protests-chavez-revolution



Venezuela Erupts

The tremors have been building for years, but on Wednesday night Venezuela was convulsed in a wave of violence as the government of President Nicolas Maduro appeared to enforce a brutal crackdown on nationwide protests. Streets were filled with tear gas and the crackle of gunfire, as National Guard units and National Police came out in force. Bands of regime supporters—paramilitary gangs known as colectivos—swarmed neighborhoods and public squares on their motorcycles, firing live ammunition at anyone who remained in the open. Some stormed into apartment buildings in search of protesters. The crackdown extended from Caracas to Maracaibo, Maracay, Valencia, and nearly every major city across the South American country. Venezuela’s cities have become notoriously dangerous in recent years, as the country’s crime and murder rate soared. But on Wednesday, Venezuelan cities weren't simply dangerous; they were a war zone.


As startling as the violence itself was the fact that the government gave no warning or explanation in advance. In a rambling national address earlier that day, President Maduro spoke of the need for peace—then praised the work of paramilitary thugs and promised to target members of Popular Will, a leading opposition party. Its leader, Leopoldo Lopez, was spending his second night in a military prison, after surrendering himself to authorities on Tuesday to face trumped-up charges implicating him for the death of three Venezuelans at protests. Even if Lopez, one of the opposition’s best-known leaders, is imprisoned, Maduro isn't acting like the man with the upper hand. In his remarks Wednesday, he seemed erratic and unsure of himself, which only fuels rumors that he may have diminishing control over the state and its security forces.


The most focused target of the regime’s repression has been the Popular Will party. Lopez is being held in the Ramo Verde military prison, a small facility that sits on a mountainside about an hour outside of Caracas. The remote prison has held other high-value political prisoners during Chavez’s years in power. On Tuesday, security personnel raided the Popular Will party’s headquarters in search of their second in command, Carlos Vecchio. Vecchio, a lawyer and activist, has been forced to go into hiding, and on Wednesday President Maduro confirmed that a warrant had been issued for his arrest. There were also unconfirmed reports that a warrant would soon be released for David Smolansky, the next highest party leader. A senior member of the party confirmed Thursday morning that most of the party’s top leadership has either been detained or gone underground.


That may be the key difference between Venezuela today and before: For all of the combative rhetoric and venom spewed by Hugo Chavez, the Comandante always kept a lid on widespread repression. The late strongman was expert at verbally provoking and demonizing his opponents, but the threshold for a large-scale crackdown was never crossed. Chavez would unsettle his enemies, entertain half measures, or defuse a situation by simply directing his abuse at a wholly new target. But Maduro has never possessed his predecessor’s confidence, communication, or political canny, and he inherited a government rife with factions. Since his narrow election last April, the fear has been that Chavismo’s odd blend of bravado and insecurity would swing wildly in his hands, especially as the country dire economic conditions worsened. Early Thursday morning, a senior adviser to a Popular Will party leader described the situation as “extremely fluid,” before expressing surprise at Maduro’s decision to ramp up the confrontation. “The government keeps upping the ante,” he said.


The government is likely reacting to the wave of spontaneous protests that have broken out across the country since peaceful demonstrations devolved into violence on Feb. 12. Those protests had been called in part because of the country’s economic freefall. The oil-rich country has been racked by inflation of nearly 60 percent. Venezuelans have suffered shortages of basic foods, goods, and medicines for years now, but December and January saw new levels of scarcity. The government now admits that 1 in 4 basic goods is out of stock (which means, in truth, it’s much worse). The situation is so bad that three airlines now refuse to fly there: The government owes them too much money.

Full article: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2014/02/nicolas_maduro_s_venezuela_erupts_in_violence_the_venezuelan_president_appears.html
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Venezuela's poor join protests as turmoil grips Chávez's revolution (Original Post) Turborama Feb 2014 OP
Uh oh...I guess the poor won't be assuaged by a free cellphone and a make-work job that no longer MADem Feb 2014 #1
Thanks for the photo and the link to more historical moments not covered by the MSM Turborama Feb 2014 #6
Any time--this is a big story. I thought your contribution here was very elucidative. nt MADem Feb 2014 #19
Oh, no! Not a coup to blow up parliament and set up a theocracy... again! freshwest Feb 2014 #21
Another train wreck in the long history of socialist experiments. More proof that an economic Flatulo Feb 2014 #2
Guess their love can only be bought for so long. Jake Stern Feb 2014 #3
Our Tax dollars at work turning Venezuela into another Pinochet Chile fasttense Feb 2014 #4
That same answer again..? EX500rider Feb 2014 #8
You need to listen to the link fasttense Feb 2014 #13
Soon, the Battle for Venezuela Judi Lynn Feb 2014 #9
Oh good lord. springchick Feb 2014 #10
At least that's ones funny....US as Mordor.....lol EX500rider Feb 2014 #11
Good post Judi fasttense Feb 2014 #14
Why do you hate fascism so? Zorra Feb 2014 #15
KICK for this thread. MADem Feb 2014 #5
Sad to see... Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #7
The problem with radical revolutions is, Sen. Walter Sobchak Feb 2014 #12
Gee, a variation on a Margaret Thatcher quote! Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2014 #16
I find Margaret Thatcher quotes preferable to Robert Mugabe ones Sen. Walter Sobchak Feb 2014 #17
Who the hell is quoting Robert Mugabe? Lydia Leftcoast Feb 2014 #18
We did have a few pompom shakers for Mugabe here, once upon a time. MADem Feb 2014 #20

MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. Uh oh...I guess the poor won't be assuaged by a free cellphone and a make-work job that no longer
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 06:37 AM
Feb 2014

pays for even the basics!

How will the cheerleaders explain this, that "the poor" have turned against the brutal mismanagement of the current incompetent regime?

Maduro is an idiot, and VZ is being robbed blind while he fondles the Puerto Rican flag and adjusts his moustaches...!

Now, from whence will the coup come? I keep betting on Diosdado Cabello...he's still got friends in the Army, he was Chavez's best buddy--everyone was shocked when he didn't get the gig in the first place...and he has governmental experience.

Time will tell if "God Given Hair" can cover VZ and lead her out of her misery...! A monkey at a piano could play a better tune than Maduro is managing, now...


I'm also amused that the opposition is using the Guy Fawkes mask...




Many more photos at this link ...this ain't just a little thing; this is serious business in VZ.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
21. Oh, no! Not a coup to blow up parliament and set up a theocracy... again!
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 04:26 AM
Feb 2014
That did not end well last time.

Sorry, but if I don't let it out, it tickles.

Yes, this is a BFD. We're all going to learn some things. Thanks for staying on this.


 

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)
2. Another train wreck in the long history of socialist experiments. More proof that an economic
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 06:51 AM
Feb 2014

system based on theft and cronyism is doomed to failure.

My sympathies for the citizens of that long-suffering land. This will get worse before it gets better.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
3. Guess their love can only be bought for so long.
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 07:00 AM
Feb 2014

There aren't many more freebies the Chavistas can give away, I mean "liberate".

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
4. Our Tax dollars at work turning Venezuela into another Pinochet Chile
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 10:19 AM
Feb 2014

It's amazing what our tax dollars can do to another country.

There is a line item in Obama's budget to fund opposition parties in Venezuela. We are creating havoc in there. This is how much capitalist can't stand socialism. They will pay murderers to stop it.

Leopoldo Lopez and his US funded party lost the election big time and can never get elected because of his elitist background. He is a member of the 1% and was educated at Harvard. So, now he wants to illegally gain the presidential position with the help of the Obama administration and OUR TAX DOLLARS.

Why Obama hates the socialist government of Venezuela is obvious. Don't be fooled by the propaganda. Democracy Now has an excellent piece on this. http://www.democracynow.org/2014/2/20/venezuelan_protests_another_attempt_by_us

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
8. That same answer again..?
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 03:56 PM
Feb 2014

cut and pasted like 5 times now....even after it was pointed out to you that Lopez didn't run for President, Capriles did and that he only lost by 1% which is considered a very close election by most of us. And to say the apparently well educated and telegenic former mayor of a Caracas district from 2000-2008 "can't get elected" sounds silly also. And the US giving fairly small amounts of money to opposition parties to encourage a healthy democracy instead of a one party state isn't really "creating havoc" and what percentage of Capriles party funding was US? If he got 49% of the vote I doubt it was very high.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
13. You need to listen to the link
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 11:56 AM
Feb 2014

I was referring to the December elections.

Anyway, try to open your mind to the truth and listen to the link at Democracy Now.

Or read this link: http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/02/20/obama-pushes-for-regime-change-in-venezuela/

Judi Lynn

(160,555 posts)
9. Soon, the Battle for Venezuela
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 04:28 PM
Feb 2014

Weekend Edition February 21-23, 2014
Open Letter to President of Venezuela

Soon, the Battle for Venezuela

by ANDRE VLTCHEK


They are already sewing your funeral gown, Venezuela. They are now ready to welcome you back to that world of the lobotomized, destroyed nations that are fully submissive to Western political and economic interests – Indonesia, Philippines, Paraguay, Uganda, Kenya, Qatar, Bahrain, and almost the entire Eastern Europe. There are so many places like that – it is impossible to list them all.

They want you back in their deadly embrace; they want you to be corrupt and hopeless, as you were before the “Bolivarian Revolution”.

They want you to be the top oil exporter, but with all those horrific slums hanging, like relentless nightmares, over your cities. They want your elites and your military top brass to speak English, to play golf, to drive luxury cars and to commit treason after treason, as they used to commit treason for decades, before your brave predecessor, President Hugo Chavez, began serving and literally saving the poor, in Venezuela and all over Latin America.

Those who are planning to destroy you, those who belong to the so called ‘opposition’, in their heads, are already portioning you; they are dividing your beautiful body – fighting over which parts should be taken where and by whom. They are arguing which pieces of you should stay at home, and what should be taken abroad – a leg, an arm, and your deep melancholic eyes, the color of the profound pools under the mighty waterfalls of Canaima. They want to sell your jet-black hair, as black as those evenings in the mountains, or like that endless night sky above Ciudad Bolivar.

They want everything, all that is under your skin as well as what is deep inside your body. They want your skin, too, as well as your heart.

More:
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/02/21/soon-the-battle-for-venezuela/

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
7. Sad to see...
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 10:36 AM
Feb 2014

Since the U.S. media pretty much pretended that Venezuela didn't even exist after Chavez died, I haven't been keeping track of what this Maduro character has been up to...

I hope things can work our for the best, and what some people call this grand "socialist experiment" or whatever wasn't all for naught...

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
12. The problem with radical revolutions is,
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 07:26 PM
Feb 2014

eventually you run out of stuff to redistribute. Then you find the adoring masses become rather fickle.

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
18. Who the hell is quoting Robert Mugabe?
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 10:05 PM
Feb 2014

Straw man argument.

And I'm not sure who did more damage: Mugabe or Thatcher.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
20. We did have a few pompom shakers for Mugabe here, once upon a time.
Sun Feb 23, 2014, 10:16 PM
Feb 2014

You can use the search feature and figure out who, yourself. It's not a strawman, really--it's site history.

I think there's no comparison between Thatcher and Mugabe. There's a big difference between being a wingnut asshole with a huge crush on Saint Ronnie, and being a mass murderer.

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